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Tuesday, June 17th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 16 2014, 10:58 PM (19,325 Views)
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I think Jen was in the dark.


Moving on, I was disappointed in Eric today. He doesn't seem to be able to muster up much understanding for his twin and that's a shame. His "everyone deserves forgiveness except EJ" mantra could actually lead to some interesting character growth and good conflict for him and Sami, but unfortunately the show won't ever do anything with it.

When has Sami mustered up understanding for Eric? He tried to explain his engagement to Nicole to Sami but she made it all about herself as usual.

One thing that disappoints me is the lack of scenes between Eric and Sami. They barely cross paths. They are supposed to be "close" but that isn't depicted well on this show at all.

In regards to the whole business regarding what EJ knew about Kristen, it seemed like Sami went from being very pissed about it (thinking EJ was lying) to just forgetting about it after a couple of months. I don't recall what made Sami become satisfied with what EJ told her.
Sami stood by Eric throughout the whole ordeal. she was very supportive of him and she was devastated for him. She even put Eric before her relationship with Ej which is something I would never do personally.

It took her months to eventually forgive him and move past it and Ej finally apologized for keeping it from her and for Kristen did. They just decided to get past it. That is what couple do when they are in committed relationships. you deal with your issues and work it out through forgiveness. If couple break up every time there is a family issue, there would be no lifelong successful relationships.

IMO Eric and Sami are not close. They are twins and I know Sami loves Eric, but I don't believe that Eric loves Sami or even like her.

In Sami's defense, given the fact that Nicole kidnapped her child, I might be a little upset too if my twin brother decided to marry the woman who stole my child at birth. On the flip side, Eric is also making Sami's relationship with ej all about him and his problems.
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Moving on, I was disappointed in Eric today. He doesn't seem to be able to muster up much understanding for his twin and that's a shame. His "everyone deserves forgiveness except EJ" mantra could actually lead to some interesting character growth and good conflict for him and Sami, but unfortunately the show won't ever do anything with it.

When has Sami mustered up understanding for Eric? He tried to explain his engagement to Nicole to Sami but she made it all about herself as usual.

One thing that disappoints me is the lack of scenes between Eric and Sami. They barely cross paths. They are supposed to be "close" but that isn't depicted well on this show at all.

In regards to the whole business regarding what EJ knew about Kristen, it seemed like Sami went from being very pissed about it (thinking EJ was lying) to just forgetting about it after a couple of months. I don't recall what made Sami become satisfied with what EJ told her.
Sami and Eric aren't the same people and I don't expect the same behavior from them. As a former priest and a good guy, I expect better from Eric.
That's a good point.
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Jun 17 2014, 06:08 PM
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Jun 17 2014, 04:26 PM
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Jun 17 2014, 03:33 PM
FUCK YOU Eric!!!!!!

Just when I thought I could not hate that whimpy prick anymore than I do, he proves me wrong. Eric is still crying because ej did not help him clear his name and sell his sister Kristen down the river. Here is an idea Eric, why didn't fight to clear your name yourself instead of wallowing in self pity and waiting for someone else to do it for you. You expected Ej to defy Stefano and betray his own sister for you even though you have been throwing shade at him since he got to town?

You got engaged to the woman who kidnapped Sami's child and you have the nerve to judge Sami for being with Ej who by the way was not the one who drugged you. Pot meet kettle Eric. You said it yourself that you love Nicole more than your family and you chose Nicole over Sami, but Sami is not supposed to chose Ej (father of her 2 children) over you. You are such a fucking hypocrite.

For the record, Ej did not know all along, that is your warped assumption. Ej found out 2 hours before the wedding. Sami jeopardized her relationship with Ej out of loyalty for you when she kicked him out of their bed and shut him out emotionally for months. What have you done for Sami to prove your loyalty since you came here in Salem? Not a damn thing. Eric is one of those people who expect loyalty from others without reciprocating. Loyalty works both ways you entitled SOB.

I wish Sami did not give a shit about Eric because he sure does not deserve her loyalty or devotion. Eric is a SORRY excuse for a brother. I am just waiting for Sami to say FUCK YOU to her family for good and walk away into the sunset with her kids. Maybe hopefully, it will be my payoff because I have been waiting for her to finally tell her entire family to FUCK OFF for years.


Nicole whatever Ej did and did not do does not change the fact that you stab the man you claim to love in the heart. Sami should not have gotten in your face because it is none of your business, but Nicole you can spin shit and shift blame all you want, bottom line is ej is not the one who shredded the evidence, YOU did. she went from blaming Danifer to blaming God and now Ej. So take responsibility for once in your life bitch.

Nicole calling Sami a Dimera whore is hilarious considering everything she did to become one herself. Nicole honey have you forgotten that you schemed, wore a fake belly, bought a baby in the blackmarket and kidnapped sami's baby in order to become a Dimera whore. For the record, Sami is not a Dimera whore. you don't give your whore an engagement ring. She is the Dimera queen, something that Nicole fought for years to be and failed miserably. Nicole calling any woman a whore is ironic because Nicole has slept with almost every man in Salem. You own that title bitch.

Every character pissed me off today except for Jordan who I feel sorry for.
And here I thought Nicole was married to Ej once upon a time... Engaged twice to him too..she was as much a Dimera queen as you claim Sami is....
LOL Ej married Nicole the first because he thought she was having a Dimera heir when in fact Nicole was faking a pregnancy. that makes her a fraud, not the Dimera queen. Ej never treated her like a queen back then either. He treated her poorly and he was still hung up on Sami. The second time, he only married her to stick it to Sami. it was not a real marriage. he gave a tracking bracelet like a property and was fucking her sister on the side. she had to blackmail him to keep him from leaving her. Not a Dimera queen.

The last time was promising because he seem to genuinely wants to be with her. But Nicole was wavering, so he sought comfort in sami's arms and the rest is history. you snooze, you lose. Once Ej realized that he had a chance to be with Sami, Nicole was an afterthought. So yeah, nicole was never the Dimera queen. she was at best a substitute as she admitted to daniel. Sami on the other hand will be the Dimera queen and will remain the Dimera queen as she rides into the sunset with her kids hopefully to meet Ej in Mocoro or some other paradise. :biggrin:
What is this queen talk? EJ has treated both Nicole AND Sami poorly. He has been abusive to both and cheated on both. He most certainly has not treated Sami like "royalty" either.


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Please, please, please let JJ get pissed off at Daniel for dumping his mother. JJ was so much better when he hated Daniel.


Edited to add: Who am I kidding? He's totally going to apologize to the Jonas about his mother's failings.
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Abigail tells Jordan that Rafe is the type of guy who goes inward when something is wrong. Abigail realizes that they are standing right where Nick collapsed. She says it's weird, all their lives have changed since then.
I have to call David Cherrill out on this WTF line. Didn't Sami think Abigail was involved with Rafe because of the whole "Rafael" mix-up? When Sami brought up her crush on 'Rafe' Abigail replied she hardly knew Rafe. That I believed to be true since we had never seen the two really cross paths. BUT today! Abigail is filling in Jordan on the complexities of Rafe's behavior when he's upset and Jordan who has spent month upon month with Rafe tells Abby "I'm just realizing this about him." BULLSHIT! Where does this even come from? Now if Cherrill wanted to preface it with Abigail saying, 'Gabi once mentioned that Rafe goes inward when something's wrong.' I'd not have a problem. I'm tired of the writers being so damn irresponsible. Look over the scripts and put out a quality product.
Amen!! I call bullshit on that one. I had to stop and rewind when I heard Abigail put out that line about Rafe. I kept thinking.. since when does Abby even really know Rafe at all, let alone well enough to make a statement like that to his girlfriend? Are these writers interested at all in putting out good dialogue and stories, or are they just phoning it in on a daily basis?
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Abigail tells Jordan that Rafe is the type of guy who goes inward when something is wrong. Abigail realizes that they are standing right where Nick collapsed. She says it's weird, all their lives have changed since then.
I have to call David Cherrill out on this WTF line. Didn't Sami think Abigail was involved with Rafe because of the whole "Rafael" mix-up? When Sami brought up her crush on 'Rafe' Abigail replied she hardly knew Rafe. That I believed to be true since we had never seen the two really cross paths. BUT today! Abigail is filling in Jordan on the complexities of Rafe's behavior when he's upset and Jordan who has spent month upon month with Rafe tells Abby "I'm just realizing this about him." BULLSHIT! Where does this even come from? Now if Cherrill wanted to preface it with Abigail saying, 'Gabi once mentioned that Rafe goes inward when something's wrong.' I'd not have a problem. I'm tired of the writers being so damn irresponsible. Look over the scripts and put out a quality product.
Yeah, that line made no sense to me, either. Abby has barely interacted with Rafe in the entire time Kate Mansi has been on the show. Abby has no real insight to offer in this situation. If she had observed that he seemed like the type of guy who would go inward in response to such hardship, it would have been another matter entirely.

And that wasn't the only weird thing in today's episode. We went from Rafe and Kate being worried about someone being in the hallway outside Rafe's apartment to Kate emerging from the bathroom at Club TBD with no scenes in between.
Kind of like yesterday when we went from Kate and Rafe having a few drinks at the club to them in bed having sex with nothing in between. Today's scenes with them made no sense at all... I was thinking maybe Jordan had decided to go through with going to Rafe's apartment like she had menioned, and it was her they thought they heard in the hall, but then we saw her at the club with Ben. Lousy editing.
Edited by magicsteacher, Jun 17 2014, 07:21 PM.
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FUCK YOU Eric!!!!!!

Just when I thought I could not hate that whimpy prick anymore than I do, he proves me wrong. Eric is still crying because ej did not help him clear his name and sell his sister Kristen down the river. Here is an idea Eric, why didn't fight to clear your name yourself instead of wallowing in self pity and waiting for someone else to do it for you. You expected Ej to defy Stefano and betray his own sister for you even though you have been throwing shade at him since he got to town?

You got engaged to the woman who kidnapped Sami's child and you have the nerve to judge Sami for being with Ej who by the way was not the one who drugged you. Pot meet kettle Eric. You said it yourself that you love Nicole more than your family and you chose Nicole over Sami, but Sami is not supposed to chose Ej (father of her 2 children) over you. You are such a fucking hypocrite.

For the record, Ej did not know all along, that is your warped assumption. Ej found out 2 hours before the wedding. Sami jeopardized her relationship with Ej out of loyalty for you when she kicked him out of their bed and shut him out emotionally for months. What have you done for Sami to prove your loyalty since you came here in Salem? Not a damn thing. Eric is one of those people who expect loyalty from others without reciprocating. Loyalty works both ways you entitled SOB.

I wish Sami did not give a shit about Eric because he sure does not deserve her loyalty or devotion. Eric is a SORRY excuse for a brother. I am just waiting for Sami to say FUCK YOU to her family for good and walk away into the sunset with her kids. Maybe hopefully, it will be my payoff because I have been waiting for her to finally tell her entire family to FUCK OFF for years.


Nicole whatever Ej did and did not do does not change the fact that you stab the man you claim to love in the heart. Sami should not have gotten in your face because it is none of your business, but Nicole you can spin shit and shift blame all you want, bottom line is ej is not the one who shredded the evidence, YOU did. she went from blaming Danifer to blaming God and now Ej. So take responsibility for once in your life bitch.

Nicole calling Sami a Dimera whore is hilarious considering everything she did to become one herself. Nicole honey have you forgotten that you schemed, wore a fake belly, bought a baby in the blackmarket and kidnapped sami's baby in order to become a Dimera whore. For the record, Sami is not a Dimera whore. you don't give your whore an engagement ring. She is the Dimera queen, something that Nicole fought for years to be and failed miserably. Nicole calling any woman a whore is ironic because Nicole has slept with almost every man in Salem. You own that title bitch.

Every character pissed me off today except for Jordan who I feel sorry for.
And here I thought Nicole was married to Ej once upon a time... Engaged twice to him too..she was as much a Dimera queen as you claim Sami is....
LOL Ej married Nicole the first because he thought she was having a Dimera heir when in fact Nicole was faking a pregnancy. that makes her a fraud, not the Dimera queen. Ej never treated her like a queen back then either. He treated her poorly and he was still hung up on Sami. The second time, he only married her to stick it to Sami. it was not a real marriage. he gave a tracking bracelet like a property and was fucking her sister on the side. she had to blackmail him to keep him from leaving her. Not a Dimera queen.

The last time was promising because he seem to genuinely wants to be with her. But Nicole was wavering, so he sought comfort in sami's arms and the rest is history. you snooze, you lose. Once Ej realized that he had a chance to be with Sami, Nicole was an afterthought. So yeah, nicole was never the Dimera queen. she was at best a substitute as she admitted to daniel. Sami on the other hand will be the Dimera queen and will remain the Dimera queen as she rides into the sunset with her kids hopefully to meet Ej in Mocoro or some other paradise. :biggrin:
Why any woman would want to be Elvis' DiMera QUEEN, Is beyond me. He treats them all like shit! Even Samanther.
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Jun 17 2014, 11:50 AM
Abigail tells Jordan that Rafe is the type of guy who goes inward when something is wrong. Abigail realizes that they are standing right where Nick collapsed. She says it's weird, all their lives have changed since then.
I have to call David Cherrill out on this WTF line. Didn't Sami think Abigail was involved with Rafe because of the whole "Rafael" mix-up? When Sami brought up her crush on 'Rafe' Abigail replied she hardly knew Rafe. That I believed to be true since we had never seen the two really cross paths. BUT today! Abigail is filling in Jordan on the complexities of Rafe's behavior when he's upset and Jordan who has spent month upon month with Rafe tells Abby "I'm just realizing this about him." BULLSHIT! Where does this even come from? Now if Cherrill wanted to preface it with Abigail saying, 'Gabi once mentioned that Rafe goes inward when something's wrong.' I'd not have a problem. I'm tired of the writers being so damn irresponsible. Look over the scripts and put out a quality product.
Amen!! I call bullshit on that one. I had to stop and rewind when I heard Abigail put out that line about Rafe. I kept thinking.. since when does Abby even really know Rafe at all, let alone well enough to make a statement like that to his girlfriend? Are these writers interested at all in putting out good dialogue and stories, or are they just phoning it in on a daily basis?
Rhetorical question, right? :D
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Abigail tells Jordan that Rafe is the type of guy who goes inward when something is wrong. Abigail realizes that they are standing right where Nick collapsed. She says it's weird, all their lives have changed since then.
I have to call David Cherrill out on this WTF line. Didn't Sami think Abigail was involved with Rafe because of the whole "Rafael" mix-up? When Sami brought up her crush on 'Rafe' Abigail replied she hardly knew Rafe. That I believed to be true since we had never seen the two really cross paths. BUT today! Abigail is filling in Jordan on the complexities of Rafe's behavior when he's upset and Jordan who has spent month upon month with Rafe tells Abby "I'm just realizing this about him." BULLSHIT! Where does this even come from? Now if Cherrill wanted to preface it with Abigail saying, 'Gabi once mentioned that Rafe goes inward when something's wrong.' I'd not have a problem. I'm tired of the writers being so damn irresponsible. Look over the scripts and put out a quality product.
I had the same thought. Abby doesn't know Rafe at all really except through Gabi and what she might have told her. I can't even remember any scenes between the two. At this point Jordan definitely knows him better. I hate that the show keeps writing out of character actions for shock value and they make it worse and have dialogue that makes no sense.
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Jun 17 2014, 11:50 AM
Abigail tells Jordan that Rafe is the type of guy who goes inward when something is wrong. Abigail realizes that they are standing right where Nick collapsed. She says it's weird, all their lives have changed since then.
I have to call David Cherrill out on this WTF line. Didn't Sami think Abigail was involved with Rafe because of the whole "Rafael" mix-up? When Sami brought up her crush on 'Rafe' Abigail replied she hardly knew Rafe. That I believed to be true since we had never seen the two really cross paths. BUT today! Abigail is filling in Jordan on the complexities of Rafe's behavior when he's upset and Jordan who has spent month upon month with Rafe tells Abby "I'm just realizing this about him." BULLSHIT! Where does this even come from? Now if Cherrill wanted to preface it with Abigail saying, 'Gabi once mentioned that Rafe goes inward when something's wrong.' I'd not have a problem. I'm tired of the writers being so damn irresponsible. Look over the scripts and put out a quality product.
Amen!! I call bullshit on that one. I had to stop and rewind when I heard Abigail put out that line about Rafe. I kept thinking.. since when does Abby even really know Rafe at all, let alone well enough to make a statement like that to his girlfriend? Are these writers interested at all in putting out good dialogue and stories, or are they just phoning it in on a daily basis?
Rhetorical question, right? :D
Absolutely!! :D
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Jun 17 2014, 03:33 PM
FUCK YOU Eric!!!!!!

Just when I thought I could not hate that whimpy prick anymore than I do, he proves me wrong. Eric is still crying because ej did not help him clear his name and sell his sister Kristen down the river. Here is an idea Eric, why didn't fight to clear your name yourself instead of wallowing in self pity and waiting for someone else to do it for you. You expected Ej to defy Stefano and betray his own sister for you even though you have been throwing shade at him since he got to town?

You got engaged to the woman who kidnapped Sami's child and you have the nerve to judge Sami for being with Ej who by the way was not the one who drugged you. Pot meet kettle Eric. You said it yourself that you love Nicole more than your family and you chose Nicole over Sami, but Sami is not supposed to chose Ej (father of her 2 children) over you. You are such a fucking hypocrite.

For the record, Ej did not know all along, that is your warped assumption. Ej found out 2 hours before the wedding. Sami jeopardized her relationship with Ej out of loyalty for you when she kicked him out of their bed and shut him out emotionally for months. What have you done for Sami to prove your loyalty since you came here in Salem? Not a damn thing. Eric is one of those people who expect loyalty from others without reciprocating. Loyalty works both ways you entitled SOB.

I wish Sami did not give a shit about Eric because he sure does not deserve her loyalty or devotion. Eric is a SORRY excuse for a brother. I am just waiting for Sami to say FUCK YOU to her family for good and walk away into the sunset with her kids. Maybe hopefully, it will be my payoff because I have been waiting for her to finally tell her entire family to FUCK OFF for years.


Nicole whatever Ej did and did not do does not change the fact that you stab the man you claim to love in the heart. Sami should not have gotten in your face because it is none of your business, but Nicole you can spin shit and shift blame all you want, bottom line is ej is not the one who shredded the evidence, YOU did. she went from blaming Danifer to blaming God and now Ej. So take responsibility for once in your life bitch.

Nicole calling Sami a Dimera whore is hilarious considering everything she did to become one herself. Nicole honey have you forgotten that you schemed, wore a fake belly, bought a baby in the blackmarket and kidnapped sami's baby in order to become a Dimera whore. For the record, Sami is not a Dimera whore. you don't give your whore an engagement ring. She is the Dimera queen, something that Nicole fought for years to be and failed miserably. Nicole calling any woman a whore is ironic because Nicole has slept with almost every man in Salem. You own that title bitch.

Every character pissed me off today except for Jordan who I feel sorry for.
And here I thought Nicole was married to Ej once upon a time... Engaged twice to him too..she was as much a Dimera queen as you claim Sami is....
LOL Ej married Nicole the first because he thought she was having a Dimera heir when in fact Nicole was faking a pregnancy. that makes her a fraud, not the Dimera queen. Ej never treated her like a queen back then either. He treated her poorly and he was still hung up on Sami. The second time, he only married her to stick it to Sami. it was not a real marriage. he gave a tracking bracelet like a property and was fucking her sister on the side. she had to blackmail him to keep him from leaving her. Not a Dimera queen.

The last time was promising because he seem to genuinely wants to be with her. But Nicole was wavering, so he sought comfort in sami's arms and the rest is history. you snooze, you lose. Once Ej realized that he had a chance to be with Sami, Nicole was an afterthought. So yeah, nicole was never the Dimera queen. she was at best a substitute as she admitted to daniel. Sami on the other hand will be the Dimera queen and will remain the Dimera queen as she rides into the sunset with her kids hopefully to meet Ej in Mocoro or some other paradise. :biggrin:
Why any woman would want to be Elvis' DiMera QUEEN, Is beyond me. He treats them all like shit! Even Samanther.
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I wonder if Daniel's comment about doing regrettable things after Rebecca's death was meant to be an allusion to the fact that he slept with various patients for a while? Because that's how I took it. In any case, for those of you who complain that the writers always act like Daniel is perfect and can do no wrong, today's dialogue clearly proved that they know that he hasn't always been a good guy.
^^^ That is how I took Dan's comments about doing regrettable things .
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I wonder who Stephano had following Kate? As in, who was in the hall?
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Moving on, I was disappointed in Eric today. He doesn't seem to be able to muster up much understanding for his twin and that's a shame. His "everyone deserves forgiveness except EJ" mantra could actually lead to some interesting character growth and good conflict for him and Sami, but unfortunately the show won't ever do anything with it.

When has Sami mustered up understanding for Eric? He tried to explain his engagement to Nicole to Sami but she made it all about herself as usual.

One thing that disappoints me is the lack of scenes between Eric and Sami. They barely cross paths. They are supposed to be "close" but that isn't depicted well on this show at all.

In regards to the whole business regarding what EJ knew about Kristen, it seemed like Sami went from being very pissed about it (thinking EJ was lying) to just forgetting about it after a couple of months. I don't recall what made Sami become satisfied with what EJ told her.
Sami stood by Eric throughout the whole ordeal. she was very supportive of him and she was devastated for him. She even put Eric before her relationship with Ej which is something I would never do personally.

It took her months to eventually forgive him and move past it and Ej finally apologized for keeping it from her and for Kristen did. They just decided to get past it. That is what couple do when they are in committed relationships. you deal with your issues and work it out through forgiveness. If couple break up every time there is a family issue, there would be no lifelong successful relationships.

IMO Eric and Sami are not close. They are twins and I know Sami loves Eric, but I don't believe that Eric loves Sami or even like her.

In Sami's defense, given the fact that Nicole kidnapped her child, I might be a little upset too if my twin brother decided to marry the woman who stole my child at birth. On the flip side, Eric is also making Sami's relationship with ej all about him and his problems.
Oh please, Sami is marrying a man who kidnapped her child, why should she be upset because Eric is marrying somebody that did the same? Sami needs to keep her big mouth shut when it comes to calling somebody out for their mistakes, chances are she's done the same or worse. Talk about pot/kettle!
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Jennifer and Daniel both need to get over themselves and die. WTF are they going on about?
If and only IF they hadn't already broken up a gazillion times before, this scene would've actually been okay imho. But they have and it wasn't! :drunk:
This contrived,asinine breakup is one of the worst in soap history. I only have a high school education but even i could come up with a more plausible breakup,like daniel obssessing over nicole,taking her side in everything,or major trust issues or one of them pulling a one night stand.

These writers don' t know drama 101
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I wonder if Daniel's comment about doing regrettable things after Rebecca's death was meant to be an allusion to the fact that he slept with various patients for a while? Because that's how I took it. In any case, for those of you who complain that the writers always act like Daniel is perfect and can do no wrong, today's dialogue clearly proved that they know that he hasn't always been a good guy.
^^^ That is how I took Dan's comments about doing regrettable things .
This is funny because at celebdirtylaundry days of our lives section a week ago they posted that eve exposes dan's secrets. Now beginning to wonder if that headline was not erroneous. Maybe after he rejects her advances,eve opens the closet on his skeletons :popcorn:
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Moving on, I was disappointed in Eric today. He doesn't seem to be able to muster up much understanding for his twin and that's a shame. His "everyone deserves forgiveness except EJ" mantra could actually lead to some interesting character growth and good conflict for him and Sami, but unfortunately the show won't ever do anything with it.

When has Sami mustered up understanding for Eric? He tried to explain his engagement to Nicole to Sami but she made it all about herself as usual.

One thing that disappoints me is the lack of scenes between Eric and Sami. They barely cross paths. They are supposed to be "close" but that isn't depicted well on this show at all.

In regards to the whole business regarding what EJ knew about Kristen, it seemed like Sami went from being very pissed about it (thinking EJ was lying) to just forgetting about it after a couple of months. I don't recall what made Sami become satisfied with what EJ told her.
Sami stood by Eric throughout the whole ordeal. she was very supportive of him and she was devastated for him. She even put Eric before her relationship with Ej which is something I would never do personally.

It took her months to eventually forgive him and move past it and Ej finally apologized for keeping it from her and for Kristen did. They just decided to get past it. That is what couple do when they are in committed relationships. you deal with your issues and work it out through forgiveness. If couple break up every time there is a family issue, there would be no lifelong successful relationships.

IMO Eric and Sami are not close. They are twins and I know Sami loves Eric, but I don't believe that Eric loves Sami or even like her.

In Sami's defense, given the fact that Nicole kidnapped her child, I might be a little upset too if my twin brother decided to marry the woman who stole my child at birth. On the flip side, Eric is also making Sami's relationship with ej all about him and his problems.
Nicole was definitely not a substitute. Ej at the time was in love with her and only had griefsex with Sami because Nicole had dumped him and forced him into signing divorce papers. I know Days likes to rewrite history but that's how it played out on screen. I also fail to see how Ej has treated Sami any better. :shrug:
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Rosebud
Jun 17 2014, 07:33 PM
marie1969
Jun 17 2014, 06:08 PM
LuvingLumi
Jun 17 2014, 04:26 PM
marie1969
Jun 17 2014, 03:33 PM
FUCK YOU Eric!!!!!!

Just when I thought I could not hate that whimpy prick anymore than I do, he proves me wrong. Eric is still crying because ej did not help him clear his name and sell his sister Kristen down the river. Here is an idea Eric, why didn't fight to clear your name yourself instead of wallowing in self pity and waiting for someone else to do it for you. You expected Ej to defy Stefano and betray his own sister for you even though you have been throwing shade at him since he got to town?

You got engaged to the woman who kidnapped Sami's child and you have the nerve to judge Sami for being with Ej who by the way was not the one who drugged you. Pot meet kettle Eric. You said it yourself that you love Nicole more than your family and you chose Nicole over Sami, but Sami is not supposed to chose Ej (father of her 2 children) over you. You are such a fucking hypocrite.

For the record, Ej did not know all along, that is your warped assumption. Ej found out 2 hours before the wedding. Sami jeopardized her relationship with Ej out of loyalty for you when she kicked him out of their bed and shut him out emotionally for months. What have you done for Sami to prove your loyalty since you came here in Salem? Not a damn thing. Eric is one of those people who expect loyalty from others without reciprocating. Loyalty works both ways you entitled SOB.

I wish Sami did not give a shit about Eric because he sure does not deserve her loyalty or devotion. Eric is a SORRY excuse for a brother. I am just waiting for Sami to say FUCK YOU to her family for good and walk away into the sunset with her kids. Maybe hopefully, it will be my payoff because I have been waiting for her to finally tell her entire family to FUCK OFF for years.


Nicole whatever Ej did and did not do does not change the fact that you stab the man you claim to love in the heart. Sami should not have gotten in your face because it is none of your business, but Nicole you can spin shit and shift blame all you want, bottom line is ej is not the one who shredded the evidence, YOU did. she went from blaming Danifer to blaming God and now Ej. So take responsibility for once in your life bitch.

Nicole calling Sami a Dimera whore is hilarious considering everything she did to become one herself. Nicole honey have you forgotten that you schemed, wore a fake belly, bought a baby in the blackmarket and kidnapped sami's baby in order to become a Dimera whore. For the record, Sami is not a Dimera whore. you don't give your whore an engagement ring. She is the Dimera queen, something that Nicole fought for years to be and failed miserably. Nicole calling any woman a whore is ironic because Nicole has slept with almost every man in Salem. You own that title bitch.

Every character pissed me off today except for Jordan who I feel sorry for.
And here I thought Nicole was married to Ej once upon a time... Engaged twice to him too..she was as much a Dimera queen as you claim Sami is....
LOL Ej married Nicole the first because he thought she was having a Dimera heir when in fact Nicole was faking a pregnancy. that makes her a fraud, not the Dimera queen. Ej never treated her like a queen back then either. He treated her poorly and he was still hung up on Sami. The second time, he only married her to stick it to Sami. it was not a real marriage. he gave a tracking bracelet like a property and was fucking her sister on the side. she had to blackmail him to keep him from leaving her. Not a Dimera queen.

The last time was promising because he seem to genuinely wants to be with her. But Nicole was wavering, so he sought comfort in sami's arms and the rest is history. you snooze, you lose. Once Ej realized that he had a chance to be with Sami, Nicole was an afterthought. So yeah, nicole was never the Dimera queen. she was at best a substitute as she admitted to daniel. Sami on the other hand will be the Dimera queen and will remain the Dimera queen as she rides into the sunset with her kids hopefully to meet Ej in Mocoro or some other paradise. :biggrin:
Why any woman would want to be Elvis' DiMera QUEEN, Is beyond me. He treats them all like shit! Even Samanther.
EJ doesn't want a queen, he has posessions and he doesn't think twice about betraying any of them. He has no loyalties to his family, he has used and turned on all of them at one time or another, his women, his father and even his children. I agree, who in their right mind would want to be his anything.
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Rosebud
Jun 17 2014, 07:33 PM
marie1969
Jun 17 2014, 06:08 PM
LuvingLumi
Jun 17 2014, 04:26 PM
marie1969
Jun 17 2014, 03:33 PM
FUCK YOU Eric!!!!!!

Just when I thought I could not hate that whimpy prick anymore than I do, he proves me wrong. Eric is still crying because ej did not help him clear his name and sell his sister Kristen down the river. Here is an idea Eric, why didn't fight to clear your name yourself instead of wallowing in self pity and waiting for someone else to do it for you. You expected Ej to defy Stefano and betray his own sister for you even though you have been throwing shade at him since he got to town?

You got engaged to the woman who kidnapped Sami's child and you have the nerve to judge Sami for being with Ej who by the way was not the one who drugged you. Pot meet kettle Eric. You said it yourself that you love Nicole more than your family and you chose Nicole over Sami, but Sami is not supposed to chose Ej (father of her 2 children) over you. You are such a fucking hypocrite.

For the record, Ej did not know all along, that is your warped assumption. Ej found out 2 hours before the wedding. Sami jeopardized her relationship with Ej out of loyalty for you when she kicked him out of their bed and shut him out emotionally for months. What have you done for Sami to prove your loyalty since you came here in Salem? Not a damn thing. Eric is one of those people who expect loyalty from others without reciprocating. Loyalty works both ways you entitled SOB.

I wish Sami did not give a shit about Eric because he sure does not deserve her loyalty or devotion. Eric is a SORRY excuse for a brother. I am just waiting for Sami to say FUCK YOU to her family for good and walk away into the sunset with her kids. Maybe hopefully, it will be my payoff because I have been waiting for her to finally tell her entire family to FUCK OFF for years.


Nicole whatever Ej did and did not do does not change the fact that you stab the man you claim to love in the heart. Sami should not have gotten in your face because it is none of your business, but Nicole you can spin shit and shift blame all you want, bottom line is ej is not the one who shredded the evidence, YOU did. she went from blaming Danifer to blaming God and now Ej. So take responsibility for once in your life bitch.

Nicole calling Sami a Dimera whore is hilarious considering everything she did to become one herself. Nicole honey have you forgotten that you schemed, wore a fake belly, bought a baby in the blackmarket and kidnapped sami's baby in order to become a Dimera whore. For the record, Sami is not a Dimera whore. you don't give your whore an engagement ring. She is the Dimera queen, something that Nicole fought for years to be and failed miserably. Nicole calling any woman a whore is ironic because Nicole has slept with almost every man in Salem. You own that title bitch.

Every character pissed me off today except for Jordan who I feel sorry for.
And here I thought Nicole was married to Ej once upon a time... Engaged twice to him too..she was as much a Dimera queen as you claim Sami is....
LOL Ej married Nicole the first because he thought she was having a Dimera heir when in fact Nicole was faking a pregnancy. that makes her a fraud, not the Dimera queen. Ej never treated her like a queen back then either. He treated her poorly and he was still hung up on Sami. The second time, he only married her to stick it to Sami. it was not a real marriage. he gave a tracking bracelet like a property and was fucking her sister on the side. she had to blackmail him to keep him from leaving her. Not a Dimera queen.

The last time was promising because he seem to genuinely wants to be with her. But Nicole was wavering, so he sought comfort in sami's arms and the rest is history. you snooze, you lose. Once Ej realized that he had a chance to be with Sami, Nicole was an afterthought. So yeah, nicole was never the Dimera queen. she was at best a substitute as she admitted to daniel. Sami on the other hand will be the Dimera queen and will remain the Dimera queen as she rides into the sunset with her kids hopefully to meet Ej in Mocoro or some other paradise. :biggrin:
Why any woman would want to be Elvis' DiMera QUEEN, Is beyond me. He treats them all like shit! Even Samanther.
To each their own, I never really understood why any woman would want to be with John either.

I personally would jump at the chance to be Elvis' queen.
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