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Wednesday, June 18th Daily Discussion
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concerned
Jun 18 2014, 04:25 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 02:45 PM
daysjahvu
Jun 18 2014, 02:37 PM
crookedhalo
Jun 18 2014, 02:30 PM
To anyone that didn't watch before EJ arrived on the scene... This is the real Sami Brady! :whip: :hail: :hail: :hail: Hail to her majesty...damn, never thought I'd be able to say that again.

Man Marlena & Eric are such smug assholes...run Nikki run!!
Oh Sami was still Sami in the early days of EJ...she set him up a couple of times and when she reeled him in with that kiss to get him to meet her at the cabin, drug him & set him on fire, that was classic Sami. The problem was EJ took it all in stride, played a little tit for tat, and kept coming back for more. Somewhere along the line SGB & EJ became a parody of themselves rather than the true characters.
Outing Kate and EJ at Mythic? Classic Sami Brady move.
Exactly retaliate without thinking about the consequences and send the company that you are working for bankrupt so that you and the man you claim to love( Lucas at the time) are both without jobs.
Yep. Sami goes scorched earth and that's why she's so great and compelling to watch.
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tomsawyer
Jun 18 2014, 05:23 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 04:20 PM
daysjahvu
Jun 18 2014, 01:05 PM
nananana7
Jun 18 2014, 01:02 PM
Comment on today's ending:
(slightly spoilerish wording)
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Maybe it refers to them holding hands when Sami makes them do that? It's the usual, totally misleading spoiler.

In the meantime, if the twists are coming Thursday & Friday, and Sami knowing is not a twist, what are those going to be?


I can not think of a bigger twist than Sami knowing. So I am going to go with the spoiler dates were wrong.
Tomorrow probably starts off with a repeat of today's closing scenes and then maybe we see the Sami flashback/daydream about how/when she found out. If that's the case, I can see how they saw Thursday as the reveal of the first twist, i.e. Sami has known for a little while (or longer).
I think tomorrow (which, according to spoilers, involves a "major confrontation" at the DiMera mansion) will show Sami confronting E.J. and Abby, but at the end of the episode, the "twist" will be that it was all a fantasy sequence. Then, on Friday, the "twist" will be that Sami has known for a while and has been working with Kate to stage a coup at the DiMera Enterprises board meeting.

I've said this before, but I think Sami found out the truth at the end of the May 21st episode. She received a phone call and told the person she would pick "it" up later. I think the phone call was from E.J.'s cleaner, and "it" was the photographs the cleaner had retrieved from Nick's apartment. Sami expected that "it" would just be photographs of the river incident, but the photographs of E.J. and Abby were in there, too. The next time we saw Sami, in the May 23rd episode, Will mentioned that she had received a text message that had upset her -- we never saw that happen -- and she got into an off-screen "argument" with Kate.
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Kinay
Jun 18 2014, 05:32 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 05:08 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 02:00 PM
Okay this is a serious question, I am an old married lady & have been out out of the dating game for a loooong time.

When a couple is officially on a "break" is having sex with someone else cheating?


Not in my book. But it is still hurtful.

daysjahvu
Jun 18 2014, 02:37 PM
crookedhalo
Jun 18 2014, 02:30 PM
To anyone that didn't watch before EJ arrived on the scene... This is the real Sami Brady! :whip: :hail: :hail: :hail: Hail to her majesty...damn, never thought I'd be able to say that again.

Man Marlena & Eric are such smug assholes...run Nikki run!!
Oh Sami was still Sami in the early days of EJ...she set him up a couple of times and when she reeled him in with that kiss to get him to meet her at the cabin, drug him & set him on fire, that was classic Sami. The problem was EJ took it all in stride, played a little tit for tat, and kept coming back for more. Somewhere along the line SGB & EJ became a parody of themselves rather than the true characters.


That is so true. In the early days, Ej and Sami were a match made in heaven or hell (depend on your perspective LOL). They were kindred spirits always trying to up one another in their own twisted way. Sami kept trying to set up Ej and Ej was usually one step ahead of her. I used to say that SGB has finally met her match in the scheming department. Then of course, it all went to hell under new shitty writers.

A few of her schemes that comes to mind is when she faked the amnio results, she also set ej up to the police, the one you mentioned where she pretended she was going to run away with him and she was plotting to burn him alive but could not go through with it. There is also when Ej got shot where she pretended that she was pretending to have feelings for him LOL. Good stuff. The good old days. She kept Ej on his toes back then and it looks like she is going to do it again with a vengeance.

I am going to enjoy my girl wreck havoc and get her sweet revenge against Ej and skabby. She is hurt, she feels betrayed by the man she loves, so she has every right to fuck with both of them. I have absolutely no doubt the rest will work itself out. Ejami will get through this....after Ej is duly punished and learn his lesson.
I don't see EJami getting through this and if they do, it means she is as dumb as ever. If Sami is going to get her revenge, it should not just be about Abby because EJ's the one who needs to pay. He's the one who really betrayed her.
In the bigger picture, I think this will be a scheme for revenge against EJ and Stefano. Sure, I think she wants to humiliate and expose Abigail in the process, but I think the revenge against the DiMeras is more important. She probably hasn't let go of the Eric/Kristen debacle either. When Eric mentioned it to her yesterday her face seemed to be full of guilt. I think she was saying to herself at that moment "just you wait."
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Tripp
Jun 18 2014, 03:06 PM
Eve could have easily gotten married since twenty something thousand years ago when she left Salem and using her married name. If KDP is as good as she was on OLTL, she is going to make Fetch look like DoubleFetch.

How cute was Aiden today with the domino parking tickets?

I did crack up when Sami hugged Abby and the latter mouthed like OMG to EJ. Today Sami was clearly OTT so it wasn't that much of a surprise. I still think its OOC for her to be so controlled around them. One thing the show could do though, since they wanted the shock factor that Sami has known for a certain amount of time, is show how she found out in flashback mode, and it's Kate who brings it to her attention AND it's Kate who talks her down from setting EJ on fire. That way we get both sides of it.



Oh Sami does not need Kate to talk down, she GOT this. My girl has years of experience in scheming with a poker face. I am pretty sure Nick sent her those pictures. Kami are teaming up for their own personal reasons. Kate wants revenge on Stefano (I hope this has nothing to do with Rafe) for the way he treated her and Sami wanting revenge for Ej cheating on her.
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Jun 18 2014, 05:38 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 05:21 PM
concerned
Jun 18 2014, 04:34 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 04:16 PM

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She'll probably be unable to attend because she's still so sad about the break up with Dr Jonas.
I don't really see why Jen finding out that Abby slept with EJ would be such a big deal. Abby is an adult and sleeping with an older man is not the worst thing she could have done. It's not like Jen finds out her daughter attempted murder or that she's marrying a Demira or something. I say Abby needs to shake the goody two shoe image sooner or later now is just as good a time as any. I still don't think her reputation needs to suffer for being the other woman in EJ's life, he's the one who's cheated on his fiancée so he's the one who's reputation should be ruined if it wasn't already .
I agree with you in principle. Abigail is an adult, and she slept with an engaged man. That's not cool, and she clearly regrets it. She's made a mistake, and the show is portraying it as such, but not showing it as an indictment of Abigail's entire character, although I'd like to see Will call her on her Daddy issues/habit of attaching herself to older men who remind her of/talk nicely about her dad.

However, her mother is St. Jenn-Jenn of the Jonas (ex but still). She will be horrified at Abigail's lack of perfection. And deeply ashamed. One thing I doubt Jenn-Jenn will do is stop her wailing over the Jonas long enough to realize that maybe Abigail needs a therapist (that isn't Marlena.) Her mother should sit her down and say let's figure out how to get you in a place where you make better choices, but again, we are talking about Jennifer.
Jenn-Jenn will probably wail for 10 minutes, but then blame Sami for causing EJ to stray (much like she blamed Theresa for JJ's drug use, even though he was using and selling long before he met Theresa).

I do hope we get some major-league Anne/Theresa snark when the truth is revealed.

As for today's episode, I was surprised how well done the Sami reveal was. That was great how she was making Abby so uncomfortable and it actually made sense when she pulled out the photos.

Eve "Baron"? I sure hope there is a good explanation for that -- that Eve is using her adoptive name as a stage name and not that she is estranged from Shane. I just won't buy that. Given that Eve has a child and probably has been married at some point, why not have her use her husband's name?
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Jun 18 2014, 05:38 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 05:21 PM
concerned
Jun 18 2014, 04:34 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 04:16 PM

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She'll probably be unable to attend because she's still so sad about the break up with Dr Jonas.
I don't really see why Jen finding out that Abby slept with EJ would be such a big deal. Abby is an adult and sleeping with an older man is not the worst thing she could have done. It's not like Jen finds out her daughter attempted murder or that she's marrying a Demira or something. I say Abby needs to shake the goody two shoe image sooner or later now is just as good a time as any. I still don't think her reputation needs to suffer for being the other woman in EJ's life, he's the one who's cheated on his fiancée so he's the one who's reputation should be ruined if it wasn't already .
I agree with you in principle. Abigail is an adult, and she slept with an engaged man. That's not cool, and she clearly regrets it. She's made a mistake, and the show is portraying it as such, but not showing it as an indictment of Abigail's entire character, although I'd like to see Will call her on her Daddy issues/habit of attaching herself to older men who remind her of/talk nicely about her dad.

However, her mother is St. Jenn-Jenn of the Jonas (ex but still). She will be horrified at Abigail's lack of perfection. And deeply ashamed. One thing I doubt Jenn-Jenn will do is stop her wailing over the Jonas long enough to realize that maybe Abigail needs a therapist (that isn't Marlena.) Her mother should sit her down and say let's figure out how to get you in a place where you make better choices, but again, we are talking about Jennifer.
I want Jen Jen to have a front row seat to the revelation that EJabby had an affair. For one thing I thought Abigail's dream in January about Jen walking in on her and EJ at the cabin was hysterical and I want to see how it compares. I also think it would be interesting to see some conflict between Abigail and Jen. Not that I think the writers will go there.
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Jun 18 2014, 01:07 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 12:34 PM
I'm sure we're suppose to find Sami's hyperactive over-enthusiastic boundless energy when she's running around in the backyard to be cute and endearing but I just find her incredibly annoying and like chalk on a blackboard.
I keep wondering why EJ hasn't clued in to her bizarre behavior yet?
Cause while he says he knows her. EJ doesn't REALLY know Sami at all. ;)
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concerned
Jun 18 2014, 03:49 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 12:31 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 12:19 PM
Sami is so totally screwing with these people. There's really no other explanation
So much for Sami's great love for EJerk! I don't see these two walking off in the sunset anytime soon . Love that Sami is plotting revenge , Abby has nothing to lose but he does.
We have another twist coming.

Sami is going to make him pay and then forgive him and have a HEA.


She's got to have her cake and eat it.

HELL YEAH!!!!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
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Jun 18 2014, 05:08 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 02:00 PM
Okay this is a serious question, I am an old married lady & have been out out of the dating game for a loooong time.

When a couple is officially on a "break" is having sex with someone else cheating?


Not in my book. But it is still hurtful.

daysjahvu
Jun 18 2014, 02:37 PM
crookedhalo
Jun 18 2014, 02:30 PM
To anyone that didn't watch before EJ arrived on the scene... This is the real Sami Brady! :whip: :hail: :hail: :hail: Hail to her majesty...damn, never thought I'd be able to say that again.

Man Marlena & Eric are such smug assholes...run Nikki run!!
Oh Sami was still Sami in the early days of EJ...she set him up a couple of times and when she reeled him in with that kiss to get him to meet her at the cabin, drug him & set him on fire, that was classic Sami. The problem was EJ took it all in stride, played a little tit for tat, and kept coming back for more. Somewhere along the line SGB & EJ became a parody of themselves rather than the true characters.


That is so true. In the early days, Ej and Sami were a match made in heaven or hell (depend on your perspective LOL). They were kindred spirits always trying to up one another in their own twisted way. Sami kept trying to set up Ej and Ej was usually one step ahead of her. I used to say that SGB has finally met her match in the scheming department. Then of course, it all went to hell under new shitty writers.

A few of her schemes that comes to mind is when she faked the amnio results, she also set ej up to the police, the one you mentioned where she pretended she was going to run away with him and she was plotting to burn him alive but could not go through with it. There is also when Ej got shot where she pretended that she was pretending to have feelings for him LOL. Good stuff. The good old days. She kept Ej on his toes back then and it looks like she is going to do it again with a vengeance.

I am going to enjoy my girl wreck havoc and get her sweet revenge against Ej and skabby. She is hurt, she feels betrayed by the man she loves, so she has every right to fuck with both of them. I have absolutely no doubt the rest will work itself out. Ejami will get through this....after Ej is duly punished and learn his lesson.

Wow and here I thought Sami was trying to be a better person and wanting to make EJ pay for raping her back then and torturing her family. :shrug:
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tomsawyer
Jun 18 2014, 04:43 PM
Sami to Abby: "I can promise you that everything important from the reception is going to happen before you have to go to your brother's graduation."

Hmmm… sounds to me like Sami is plotting to go through with the wedding and then have her plan start to play out at the reception.
Notice that she also subtly suggested that Abby might have a reason to drink too much before J.J.'s graduation that day.
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Jun 18 2014, 12:59 PM
I'm still not convinced that this is the first time Sami saw that picture. She seemed to know exactly where it was
How could it have been the first time she had ever seen the photograph? It was in her briefcase. I don't understand how anyone could think she had never seen it before.

Also, did anyone else notice that the briefcase jumped from the table in the foyer to the desk in the living room on its own?
Edited by Will&Sonny, Jun 18 2014, 06:09 PM.
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I'm already curious how EJ and Sami exit the show.
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The stupid gala scenes were the worst part of this episode, IMO. I couldn't care less about this gala because it has no real importance or history behind it, despite it supposedly being a twenty-plus-years-long tradition in Salem, and if I never see Hope and Aiden planning an event together again, it will be too soon.
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Jun 18 2014, 02:58 PM
"Harold get the snacks ready that we discussed earlier, EJ and Abby are in the garden"
For some reason that made me LOL (so specific)

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Uh, maybe Harold's making Kate's famous brownies for EJabby! :ermm:
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Jun 18 2014, 03:06 PM
Eve could have easily gotten married since twenty something thousand years ago when she left Salem and using her married name. If KDP is as good as she was on OLTL, she is going to make Fetch look like DoubleFetch.

How cute was Aiden today with the domino parking tickets?

I did crack up when Sami hugged Abby and the latter mouthed like OMG to EJ. Today Sami was clearly OTT so it wasn't that much of a surprise. I still think its OOC for her to be so controlled around them. One thing the show could do though, since they wanted the shock factor that Sami has known for a certain amount of time, is show how she found out in flashback mode, and it's Kate who brings it to her attention AND it's Kate who talks her down from setting EJ on fire. That way we get both sides of it.

We've had a couple of scenes in the last few months with Kate and EJ and I never paid attn to the nuances, now I wish I had. And have we had ANY scenes with Abby and Kate? Kate could further use Abby to find out about Jordan THROUGH Ben.
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Jun 18 2014, 03:21 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 02:59 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 02:58 PM
"Harold get the snacks ready that we discussed earlier, EJ and Abby are in the garden"
For some reason that made me LOL (so specific)

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That line made me wonder what she had Harold put in those snacks.
it better be poison :D
Harold knows EJ is always on the losing team so I wouldnt be suprised if he threw his lot with Kami
:hail: Okay, I laughed really loud at this! This post wins for me today! Harold, Henderson and Mary are so abused aren't they?
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Jun 18 2014, 03:27 PM
Yes, gotta have the flashbacks.
This is one Ejami wedding that I HAVE to see :popcorn: I mean, I HAVE to see this shit explode!!! Now the reveal makes sense. There won't be a sobbing Sami. She's going to go batshit-waiting to exhale-Angela Basset-style on EJ/Abby. This is #Classic Sami at her best, and it's thrilling for me to get a glimpse of her this way before AS departs. Have a strong feeling July sweeps will be a huge win for DAYS, and they'll be firing on all cylinders again.

Speaking of sobbing---Jenn was pathetic today. Really, seriously, couldn't you have shown just a smidgen of those emotions after Jack went down in the elevator shaft? Who am I kidding? She's been bitten/smitten by the Jonas love bug. I hope Eve chews/spits her out like she did in the good ol' DAYS.
Oh and on top of Daniel kicking her to the curb, she's about the really have the wind knocked outta her sails by finding out Abby diddled EJ and that JJ's really dating Paige, who may or may not be the daughter of her late husband's former wife! Dude!

Jen's gonna go all serial killer on us!
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Jun 18 2014, 03:30 PM
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Jun 18 2014, 12:59 PM
I'm still not convinced that this is the first time Sami saw that picture. She seemed to know exactly where it was
I wonder if Nick had it delivered to her somehow?
Where's that clip? Someone find that clip for me of the day where the photos were taken. When EJ gets back to the mansion, Sami is in the living area. Minutes/seconds before he comes in she is looking at what appears to be some sort of text message on her phone and looks shocked. All along I've believed THAT was THE moment she found out. Either through a photo taken or a text saying that EJ was with Abby. I've always thought she hired a PI to follow him thinking he was still in contact with Kristen and she got way more information than she bargained for.

Editted to say, I found the clip from January. At 22:20 is when I honestly believe she found out.

She just doesn't looked pissed enough imo
I don't think pissed would BE the first reaction. I think confused would be. I think she played EJ for a bit to get information, but he didn't give it up (well, he gave it up to Abby).
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Jun 18 2014, 03:52 PM
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I was thinking about ex-lax too ! :popcorn:
That would so crack me up :cheer:
Just a preview for the main event.

I'd like Sami to show poster sized pics of ejabby at the wedding
I'm calling it...Sami will say "I DO" no pics, I'm betting donuts to dollars they will be married. I also think that Abby will admit the truth and Sami will probally ask her how stupid did she really think Sami was.. and then say I do to EJ and make Abby be front and center for it all. I mean she had Abby and EJ stand in the bride and groom position, geez, LOL!

If Sami dumps EJ at the alter of forest, garden whatever...what does she have? Nothing! A bunch of relatives and ex-husbands saying....I told you so. No money and part time children. She will back stuck in some dank apartment with no job and no education.

Marry him and Kate and Sami move their plot forward, getting whatever they are going for. She'll live in the mansion having servants that will pant after her ever want. Her children right there no split custody, She'll have utopia. And EJ will suffer over and over again and so will the phoenix, and maybe Chad returns and revels in his brother carnage. :shrug: Sounds good...


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Being broke with no job in a crappy apartment has never stopped Sami from dumping Ej before. Sami is not a gold digger. If she goes through with the wedding, it is because beside the obvious (revenge) deep down she is not ready to let Ej go. She is in love with him and she is not going let Abigail win. Ej is HERS.
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Jun 18 2014, 03:56 PM
marie1969
Jun 18 2014, 03:35 PM
PALMommy
Jun 18 2014, 08:53 AM
Okay, I posted this in yesterday's thread, but I was afraid y'all wouldn't see. . . it's relevant today
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So, here's my question: Not counting any time spent as an escort or prostitute, who is the female character with the most sexual partners that we've seen on screen? But more importantly, who is the MALE CHARACTER?

My first thoughts are Sami or Nicole. And Daniel. Anyone know where to get the numbers? Oooooh, Jason?!?! :hail:
Nicole is the winner. hands down.

Just on the top of my head, Eric brady victor lucas larry welch, ramdon guy she slept with to double her 5 millions, collin murphy trent ej daniel roman. I am sure I am forgetting someone LOL.

Yes, she's the whore of Babylon :blah: :blah: :blah: But I love her passionately!! And I hope she doesn't talk to the bishop, to hell with Eric and his smugness, and the horse he rode in on.

Wash your hands Nicole, and move on honey!!


I did not say that Nicole was a whore LOL, at least not in this instance. Someone asked a question and I answered as honestly as I could. I did not have to think about it because I have done the math before LOL. If it helps any, I will remove Trent from the list since the sex was off screen.
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Here's a clip of some of the final Sami/EJ/Abby scenes in today's episode
(behind the spoiler tag)

My impression is that Sami has known about the affair for some time ... but perhaps she hoped it had ended. But then she looked out into the garden and saw EJ grab Abby and swing her around to get her attention -- and Sami sensed a vibe. And that prompted her to look at the pictures again.

ALSO -- EJ mentioned that the wedding would be done a couple of days.

I think that the next couple of *viewer weeks* are going to be two *Salem days*. That explains the seeming hurry to get the wedding done before the board meeting, because in the characters' minds, that's right away.
Edited by nananana7, Jun 18 2014, 06:25 PM.
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