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Thursday, June 19th Daily Discussion
Topic Started: Jun 19 2014, 08:53 AM (27,091 Views)
tomsawyer
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lysie
Jun 19 2014, 06:51 PM
So basically the twist is what we called months ago. Noted.
Based on one background shot of a blurry portrait. We are pretty much awesome.
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Ophelia
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Dear Supergirl the Mighty Gif Queen,

Can I please have a gif of SadClown Jennifer running to answer the door/ hop on the Partridge Family bus? All I could think when I saw that was "wait for me! I just need to grab my tambourine!"
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Not Amused
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Give me snarky bitchy Nicole who stands up for herself over the weepy good girl any day of the week.
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"I've done this surgery before, with a pretty good success rate."

WOW! Now if that doesn't make you really really confident in your surgeon, nothing will. :rolleyes:
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I love how Stefano is suddenly Sami's go to person - quotes and everything. She is the son, EJ will never be.
And why is she speaking to Harold like she's eliza dolittle after the eloculation lessions. LOL
"The rain in spain, stays mainly in the plain" LOL

Also taking photos with an ipad always looks so stupid

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Edited by happyphairy, Jun 19 2014, 08:29 PM.
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TomSell messed up by making May sweeps so Fetch-focused rather than playing out this Ejami-Kate-Abby drama a little sooner. Sami knowing the truth and fucking with Ejabby has injected fun and drama into the show that it sorely lacked during sweeps.
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Jun 19 2014, 07:53 PM
Supergirlx2
Jun 19 2014, 07:34 PM
Dutch19
Jun 19 2014, 06:40 PM
Supergirlx2
Jun 19 2014, 04:28 PM

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Are you a fellow speechie? :D I just wasn't sure that a nodule surgery would be elective rather than medically necessary. That kind of stuff always confuses me!
It's technically an elective surgery since it's not REALLY necessary. In fact, the writers picking nodules to be what Eve's ENT problem is is stupid from the "going to Dr Dan cause he's an awesome surgeon" perspective. Eve being a singer and having nodules makes sense, but they really shouldn't be being resolved via surgery. That's not the usual course of actions. Of course, we're probably getting too technical. lol. ;)
Seriously, Kristin Chenoweth won't have surgery to fix a debilitating disease, because there's like a 1% chance of damaging her vocal cords... is there any singer who'd really opt for surgery?

Why not have Eve sing in a bar (apparently, character being singer is a forced part of the deal when one hires KDP) and Daniel drinking, have them meet that way? If they so absolutely have to do this shit?
Julie Andrews was part of that 1%, which is a shame since she had a beautiful singing voice.

Thanks for clearing up elective vs medically necessary too!
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happyphairy
Jun 19 2014, 07:56 PM
Will&Sonny
Jun 19 2014, 06:25 PM
happyphairy
Jun 19 2014, 02:10 PM
missmeka1987_
Jun 19 2014, 01:31 PM
It erks me a little as an internet person people have been ruining the story by saying Sami knows and her and Kate are plotting together for it turn out to be true..So I didn't get the shock factor sorry..Good tv but sorry :shrug:
I know what you mean but I only have myself to blame because I go to places that i know have major spoilers. I guess hanging out online is like a double edged sword, on one hand all the discussions increase the viewer experience exponentially as you become immersed in the characters, their history, backgrounds, motivations, wardrobe etc BUT on the other hand you always know ahead of time what might happen. If none of us were on DR, FB, Twitter etc, nick coming back, nick getting killed, gabi shooting nick, sami knowing about ejabby and kami working together would have given all of us heart attacks, we would still be in shock today
I'm sure that plenty of people would have still figured out all of those "twists" either way. In each case, there were hints -- either subtle or as subtle as a train wreck -- that pointed to the direction the stories were headed in. Nick "dies" but there's no body? Classic soap staple of a "back from the dead" story. Nick gets shot and dies -- for real this time? Plenty of people wanted him dead at that time and had been threatening to kill him. Gabi killed Nick? That was probably the one the writers would have had the best chance of surprising viewers with, but there were still obvious hints -- mainly the diaper bag. Sami knows about E.J. and Abby's fling and has been working with Kate to get back at them? There have been hints of that since May 21st.

Honestly, if they wanted to shock us, they shouldn't have spoiled that Rafe and Kate would sleep together again. I'm fairly certain that will be the most shocking thing that happened this week, in the end. I have no idea why they allowed Soap Opera Digest to spoil that -- if they hadn't, it would have taken us by surprise because there were no hints that anything like that was going to happen before the episode in which it did happen. I wouldn't have considered it a truly "earned" twist for that very fact -- as I talked about in another thread recently, "random events" don't count as true twists, in my book -- but still, it would have shocked us. It did shock us...when we read about it online days before it actually occurred.
im inclined to disagree - if there was no online forum, twitter, spoiler threads or facebook etc i dont think viewers would have seen some of the twists coming their way - even with the anvils. Coupled with not knowing which actors are leaving or joining the show, it would have been hard to anticipate some of the twists even with the use of classic soap staple tactics. im think it would have been difficult to know Gabi was the shooter if you were watching the show in a vacuum, same with Sami knowing about Ejabby and Kami working together. Like i said before double edged sword, however, im not complaining because speculation and spoilers make it intresting sometimes.
I can assure you that I still would have seen all of the "twists" you mentioned coming ahead of time, but I can't speak for anyone else. Hell, not to toot my own horn, but I predicted that Nick would leave around the same time as Gabi months ago, when practically everyone else was absolutely convinced that Blake Berris wasn't going anywhere.
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Kaha
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I think EJ will figure out that Sami knows. He looked at her like he was thinking "WTF is she on."
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Jun 19 2014, 07:46 PM
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Jun 19 2014, 07:00 PM
It's nice to see Sami scheming again. I also love Kami working together, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them turned on the other at some point. For now, I'll just enjoy them messing with EJ, Abigail, and Stefano.

Nicole is getting more enjoyable for me. It's nice to see her stand up for herself instead of taking insult after insult. While it's sad that the writers ruined Eric and Nicole, at this point, I think it's best for her character if she got involved with more of a bad boy.
I would absolutely agree, if it wasn't for the fact that she is acting like a spoiled child who blames everyone else for her problems. She's being vindictive and cruel, and IMO, her behavior is intolerable. She's attacking the people who were right in the first place (whom she mercilessly attacked for saying what they suspected), and if she acted like a big girl while standing up for herself, I'd enjoy it.

I wanted to see Nicole grow, not revert back to the worst sides we've seen through the years.
I used to be able to feel sorry for Nicole. But ever since this stupid evidence destroying plot, shes become intolerably annoying like a child throwing a tantrum amd blaming others when they don't get their way. How insulting to Eric to lash out at his mother and then after shes exposed in front of him,says she was glad he was there. This writing team is worse than higley. Characters are pod people and dialogue sounds like it was written in a bathroom stall on toilet paper.
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Kaha
Jun 19 2014, 08:19 PM
I think EJ will figure out that Sami knows. He looked at her like he was thinking "WTF is she on."
maybe that's why AS is playing it slightly over the top
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)

fundays13
Jun 19 2014, 08:20 PM
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Jun 19 2014, 07:46 PM
Serenity 808
Jun 19 2014, 07:00 PM
It's nice to see Sami scheming again. I also love Kami working together, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them turned on the other at some point. For now, I'll just enjoy them messing with EJ, Abigail, and Stefano.

Nicole is getting more enjoyable for me. It's nice to see her stand up for herself instead of taking insult after insult. While it's sad that the writers ruined Eric and Nicole, at this point, I think it's best for her character if she got involved with more of a bad boy.
I would absolutely agree, if it wasn't for the fact that she is acting like a spoiled child who blames everyone else for her problems. She's being vindictive and cruel, and IMO, her behavior is intolerable. She's attacking the people who were right in the first place (whom she mercilessly attacked for saying what they suspected), and if she acted like a big girl while standing up for herself, I'd enjoy it.

I wanted to see Nicole grow, not revert back to the worst sides we've seen through the years.
I used to be able to feel sorry for Nicole. But ever since this stupid evidence destroying plot, shes become intolerably annoying like a child throwing a tantrum amd blaming others when they don't get their way. How insulting to Eric to lash out at his mother and then after shes exposed in front of him,says she was glad he was there. This writing team is worse than higley. Characters are pod people and dialogue sounds like it was written in a bathroom stall on toilet paper.

What's wrong with Nicole calling out everyone flaws they do it to her 24/7.If they wanted to show growth in her character they should get her a man that's going to put her first.Seriously with Ej it was Sami, with Daniel it was Jennifer, with Eric again he clearly didn't want to marry her in the first place. He wasn't 100 percent sure of that at all. They should just give her a baby and let her be a mother.Honestly she's better a badgirl who wants AZ to play good and boring.I think the present Carly Jacks from General Hospital is what Nicole's character should be similar to by now even out 50 percent goodgirl 50 percent badgirl imo.. :shrug:
Edited by missmeka1987_, Jun 19 2014, 08:34 PM.
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HELLO Samantha Gene! You've been SEVERELY missed!
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marie1969


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Jun 19 2014, 12:20 PM
blueskies
Jun 19 2014, 11:56 AM
EJ's a total idiot if he doesn't even SUSPECT that Sami might know.
Ej's never met this Sami...that is why it fits...she's been an insipid moron ever since they met....I'm glad that at least I'm seeing the Sami I once loved come back to Salem for her last final months.


He certainly has. This is the same Sami who went to WP so she could hide his child from him as payback for boinking Nicole.
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lysie


tomsawyer
Jun 19 2014, 08:03 PM
lysie
Jun 19 2014, 06:51 PM
So basically the twist is what we called months ago. Noted.
Based on one background shot of a blurry portrait. We are pretty much awesome.
I think it actually started before that when a casting call went out for that guy on the board of DE/coupled Lauren and Ali talking up the summer.
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Jun 19 2014, 08:19 PM
I think EJ will figure out that Sami knows. He looked at her like he was thinking "WTF is she on."
I really hope not. Otherwise, her revenge wouldn't be so delicious. The way I see it, he doesn't believe she knows b/c she has never held back when betrayed. She lashes out and makes her feelings known to everyone around her. The last time he betrayed her she shot him. So she's not one to hold back. In his eyes, that's how he sees it. His dream is his vision of her finding out, and she's not like that.
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marie1969
Jun 19 2014, 08:52 PM
LuvingLumi
Jun 19 2014, 12:20 PM
blueskies
Jun 19 2014, 11:56 AM
EJ's a total idiot if he doesn't even SUSPECT that Sami might know.
Ej's never met this Sami...that is why it fits...she's been an insipid moron ever since they met....I'm glad that at least I'm seeing the Sami I once loved come back to Salem for her last final months.


He certainly has. This is the same Sami who went to WP so she could hide his child from him as payback for boinking Nicole.
yet another facet to the epic love story of Ejami. The only time they are interesting to watch is when they do bad shit to each other.
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missmeka1987_
Jun 19 2014, 08:32 PM
fundays13
Jun 19 2014, 08:20 PM
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Jun 19 2014, 07:46 PM
Serenity 808
Jun 19 2014, 07:00 PM
It's nice to see Sami scheming again. I also love Kami working together, but I wouldn't be surprised if one or both of them turned on the other at some point. For now, I'll just enjoy them messing with EJ, Abigail, and Stefano.

Nicole is getting more enjoyable for me. It's nice to see her stand up for herself instead of taking insult after insult. While it's sad that the writers ruined Eric and Nicole, at this point, I think it's best for her character if she got involved with more of a bad boy.
I would absolutely agree, if it wasn't for the fact that she is acting like a spoiled child who blames everyone else for her problems. She's being vindictive and cruel, and IMO, her behavior is intolerable. She's attacking the people who were right in the first place (whom she mercilessly attacked for saying what they suspected), and if she acted like a big girl while standing up for herself, I'd enjoy it.

I wanted to see Nicole grow, not revert back to the worst sides we've seen through the years.
I used to be able to feel sorry for Nicole. But ever since this stupid evidence destroying plot, shes become intolerably annoying like a child throwing a tantrum amd blaming others when they don't get their way. How insulting to Eric to lash out at his mother and then after shes exposed in front of him,says she was glad he was there. This writing team is worse than higley. Characters are pod people and dialogue sounds like it was written in a bathroom stall on toilet paper.

What's wrong with Nicole calling out everyone flaws they do it to her 24/7.If they wanted to show growth in her character they should get her a man that's going to put her first.Seriously with Ej it was Sami, with Daniel it was Jennifer, with Eric again he clearly didn't want to marry her in the first place. He wasn't 100 percent sure of that at all. They should just give her a baby and let her be a mother.Honestly she's better a badgirl who wants AZ to play good and boring.I think the present Carly Jacks from General Hospital is what Nicole's character should be similar to by now even out 50 percent goodgirl 50 percent badgirl imo.. :shrug:
Biggest part of it is she won't own up to her lies and manipulations against the man she professed to love. Except for a few whiney moments after the truth came out she hasnt shown any remorse for what she did . The deal breaker for ericole ever getting back together was when she had the gall to attack Eric 's faith by blaming God for shredding the evidence and lying. Nicole is 100% about Nicole. And her pointing out other peoples faults is another avenue to avoid reponsibility,and change the focus from where it belongs- herself.
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Weird WTfuckery on this episode...

Dr. Nicole Walker's diagnosing Eric's problems was just too much to take and a major WTF.

Victor talking about Eve like he holds a major grudge against her just doesn't make sense. Why does Victor have a grudge against someone he's last seen 20+ years ago, when she was a young woman in her early 20s? I didn't get the purpose of this scene.

Sami and Kate's weird hug. WTF was that and what was the point?

EJ plotting to take over DE. Haven't we seen this movie before? Didn't EJ kiss the ring and promise to be a good little boy. When did this feud start again?

Shit I hated with the fire of a thousand suns..

cake fight -- I found it juvenile
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Jun 19 2014, 07:49 PM
karenap63
Jun 19 2014, 07:08 PM
I am actually hoping that the deal with Sami/Kate is to take over Stefano's companies (or whatever he has). Maybe it's Karma for what was done to Roman (Wayne), Marlena and John back in the day.
Marlena is going to love this when she finds out. She might want in on the action.
I would love to see Sami and Lucas back together. JMO
I would actually love if we got a big reveal scene with Sami/Marlena. Where Sami is continuously hurting Marlena and Marlena is destroyed, and Sami, having a little attack of a conscience, just tells her everything. And before she leaves, I'd love for them to actually have Sami admit that she used what happened as an excuse to be who she became. Marlena needs to hear it, because she spent years blaming herself for every single thing Sami did. And for Sami to say "I know why that happened, I know you made a mistake and I made you pay for it ever since. And now I'm going to make the people who screwed with all of our lives really pay." I don't know if I'd want for Marlena to say she doesn't want Sami to do that, to just be safe and happy, or if that part of Marlena who isn't afraid to take action when she has to comes out, and tells Sami she wants to help.

It doesn't have to be a "Oh Mommy, I regret everything, pwease wuv me" moment... but Sami taking responsibility for her shit, admitting mistakes and non-mistakes.
I agree wholeheartedly. My "Before Sami leaves" to do list definitely includes some heartfelt scenes with both Marlena and John where there is a complete reconciliation of past events, for real this time. I feel like the writers did this at least with Sami and John back in 1999 but it didn't stick. I would also love for Carrie and Sami to have the same kind of reconciliation.
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