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Daytime Emmy Predictions - Industry Experts
Topic Started: Jun 19 2014, 06:10 PM (3,405 Views)
thepadange
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OliveAnn
Jun 22 2014, 01:12 PM
Will&Sonny
Jun 21 2014, 06:01 PM
OliveAnn
Jun 20 2014, 02:23 AM
But, it would bother me if Massey and Missal won Younger Acting categories. I'm sure Missal is usually a good actress, but that reel was bipolar in writing, directing and acting and painful to watch at times. As for Massey, I would be bothered if he won because it would be a win by way of manipulating the rules. He didn't even submit an entire episode; he submitted only 3 minutes from one episode. Yes, he's good in those 3 minutes. Really good, in fact. But, those 3 minutes are not representative of his work last year. The idea is to submit an episode that showcases your best work in the last calendar year and that is a good representation of the body of work you did in that year. This reel is not it for Chandler. He submitted only those scenes that he knew could win him a trophy. I'm not OK with that.
That's your interpretation of the rules, but I'm pretty sure Chandler Massey didn't break any rules. And everyone submits scenes they believe can win them the award -- that's sort of the point. Hell, some soaps (*cough* B&B *cough* GH *cough*) often write certain episodes specifically as Emmy bait.
That's the thing: he didn't break any rules at all, he just manipulated them. There's nothing in the Daytime Emmy rule book that says, "Thou shallt not cut scenes out of your reel." Actors have been doing that for years, but they usually just cut out one or two weak scenes. Chandler cut everything out but those 3 minutes.
Actually, the Submission Guide says this ;) (not sure how to interpret this, though) :
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Submission Detail:
• For One Hour Programs, you may submit a clip reel with an unlimited number of scenes from One Episode. For Half Hour Programs, you may submit a clip reel with an unlimited number of scenes from 2 back-to-back episodes. You may exclude scenes in which you have no dialogue. No internal editing is permitted. No more than 25% of submission may be from material prior to 2013 (ie. Flashbacks).
Edited by thepadange, Jun 22 2014, 01:56 PM.
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Yoryla
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Well I think that makes it pretty clear. One cannot exclude scenes unless they have no dialogue in them. So, did he break the rules?
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Yoryla
Jun 22 2014, 03:00 PM
Well I think that makes it pretty clear. One cannot exclude scenes unless they have no dialogue in them. So, did he break the rules?
That depends on what you understand "internal editing" to mean.
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I don't agree with the implication that Chandler cheated/manipulated the rules. Someone asked Judie (@heyjude14 on twitter/the one who edits the promos and edited the Emmy tapes for the DAYS actors this year) about his short reel and she stated that it was well within the rules to choose whatever scenes from a particular episode you wanted to submit. It is against the rules, however, to edit the actual scenes of an episode (i.e. internal editing). Which I think was the difficulty with the episode that he chose. Because of the editing of the episode as a whole, he would have had to include a lot of scenes where he was only in the background or comes into the forefront halfway through, etc. I think he chose the scenes from this episode that (1) he was the focus of and (2) could be edited together in a cohesive way. He did have scenes with just Sonny at the end of the episode, too, but if he'd included those, it would have felt really choppy and incomplete.
Edited by jmnmf, Jun 22 2014, 04:39 PM.
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Jun 22 2014, 04:35 PM
I don't agree with the implication that Chandler cheated/manipulated the rules. Someone asked Judie (@heyjude14 on twitter/the one who edits the promos and edited the Emmy tapes for the DAYS actors this year) about his short reel and she stated that it was well within the rules to choose whatever scenes from a particular episode you wanted to submit. It is against the rules, however, to edit the actual scenes of an episode (i.e. internal editing). Which I think was the difficulty with the episode that he chose. Because of the editing of the episode as a whole, he would have had to include a lot of scenes where he was only in the background or comes into the forefront halfway through, etc. I think he chose the scenes from this episode that (1) he was the focus of and (2) could be edited together in a cohesive way. He did have scenes with just Sonny at the end of the episode, too, but if he'd included those, it would have felt really choppy and incomplete.
Precisely. The scenes submitted have to be unedited. Meaning that once a scene in the reel begins, it has to be allowed to play to completion. That doesn't mean that the episode can't be edited. Chandler submitted two unbroken scenes from an episode in which he was in more than two scenes. That is not against the rules, nor is it a manipulation of them. It was simply the bare minimum he was required to submit. And, as jmnmf said, if he had submitted more than just those two scenes, the reel would have been weakened because of the choppy nature of that particular episode. (He could, of course, have chosen a completely different episode instead, and I think he had even stronger reels he could have submitted, but that is another matter entirely.)
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