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Topic Started: Apr 17 2015, 06:14 PM (3,809 Views)
lysie


The Scorpion
Apr 19 2015, 12:19 PM
lysie
Apr 18 2015, 08:28 PM
The Scorpion
Apr 18 2015, 07:45 PM
Well, Days definatley still bad ratings, no wonder with what is shown on screen, lol and clearly has it affected that they lost Ali and James I am totally convinced of this and the combination with bad stories and no real star quality in the remaining cast, this means that many people don't tune in.
What's your explanation for the bad ratings last year?
Sorry for the late response :) ok bad ratings last year, was probably due to poor storytelling viewers were fed up :) Either way, something needs to capture viewers, and Days fail right now with this. And I believe that Ali and James had a strong pull on many viewers more than the remaining cast, it seems that some tune out for good after they left, but I could be wrong? this is only my opinion.
I certainly don't think their exits helped, but just like you can't blame one storyline or actor for ratings falls I don't think you can credit them either. It just seems silly to credit them when the show was doing poorly with them too. And TIIC may make the same connection. I just think that would be a mistake when the writing is clearly a problem and has clearly been a problem for while. If they'd stayed would the stories suddenly be amazing? Based on their last few months, the obvious answer is no. They'd be in these same stupid stories with these same stupid characters.

That being said (again), they've already fired their writers so I don't really get the need to point out the issues. Obviously there were issues. That's why they've changed regimes. Their decision may be questionable but it's not like changes aren't in affect already.
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The ratings were always worse than the other soaps - that's why Days has been in the last place for years. But not THIS bad. The ratings lately have reached a new low.
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lysie


outrageous
Apr 19 2015, 02:22 PM
The ratings were always worse than the other soaps - that's why Days has been in the last place for years. But not THIS bad. The ratings lately have reached a new low.
Right. Though they're not the only soap hitting new lows lately. But I mean...it's fairly typical for them to hit new lows at the end of a regime. The difference this time is that we still have so much time left with their writing.

I'm just not sure what you're responding to in here. No one saying they're doing well. As the main person posting about it, I'm certainly not saying they're doing well and I'm also not comparing them to other soaps. :shrug: The numbers you were using earlier to make your point is what I'm saying is wrong. Those numbers weren't lows under Higley. That's when she was doing well. Her lows were pretty similar to the current lows.
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^ My face watching DAYS

The demos are really really bad and I absolutely get why they are. With TomSell fires already, I just would hate the show to drop to alarming or unrecoverable levels before te new stuff starts.
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Hugo


The Scorpion
Apr 19 2015, 12:19 PM
lysie
Apr 18 2015, 08:28 PM
The Scorpion
Apr 18 2015, 07:45 PM
Well, Days definatley still bad ratings, no wonder with what is shown on screen, lol and clearly has it affected that they lost Ali and James I am totally convinced of this and the combination with bad stories and no real star quality in the remaining cast, this means that many people don't tune in.
What's your explanation for the bad ratings last year?
Sorry for the late response :) ok bad ratings last year, was probably due to poor storytelling viewers were fed up :) Either way, something needs to capture viewers, and Days fail right now with this. And I believe that Ali and James had a strong pull on many viewers more than the remaining cast, it seems that some tune out for good after they left, but I could be wrong? this is only my opinion.
Average for the last 5 months with Ali/James: 2430K viewers (536K women 18-49)
Average for the first 5 months without them: 2410K viewers (495K women 18-49)
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

The Scorpion
Apr 19 2015, 12:19 PM
lysie
Apr 18 2015, 08:28 PM
The Scorpion
Apr 18 2015, 07:45 PM
Well, Days definatley still bad ratings, no wonder with what is shown on screen, lol and clearly has it affected that they lost Ali and James I am totally convinced of this and the combination with bad stories and no real star quality in the remaining cast, this means that many people don't tune in.
What's your explanation for the bad ratings last year?
Sorry for the late response :) ok bad ratings last year, was probably due to poor storytelling viewers were fed up :) Either way, something needs to capture viewers, and Days fail right now with this. And I believe that Ali and James had a strong pull on many viewers more than the remaining cast, it seems that some tune out for good after they left, but I could be wrong? this is only my opinion.
Some claimed they started tuning out in early 2014 due to storyline regardless of AS and JS still being there
Edited by LuvingLumi, Apr 19 2015, 06:20 PM.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

Hugo
Apr 19 2015, 05:36 PM
The Scorpion
Apr 19 2015, 12:19 PM
lysie
Apr 18 2015, 08:28 PM
The Scorpion
Apr 18 2015, 07:45 PM
Well, Days definatley still bad ratings, no wonder with what is shown on screen, lol and clearly has it affected that they lost Ali and James I am totally convinced of this and the combination with bad stories and no real star quality in the remaining cast, this means that many people don't tune in.
What's your explanation for the bad ratings last year?
Sorry for the late response :) ok bad ratings last year, was probably due to poor storytelling viewers were fed up :) Either way, something needs to capture viewers, and Days fail right now with this. And I believe that Ali and James had a strong pull on many viewers more than the remaining cast, it seems that some tune out for good after they left, but I could be wrong? this is only my opinion.
Average for the last 5 months with Ali/James: 2430K viewers (536K women 18-49)
Average for the first 5 months without them: 2410K viewers (495K women 18-49)
Not that much of a difference
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In the past there hasn't been this long of a lag before the new material started appear. That's the problem this time. Maybe the ratings usually drop in the summer, but they're already at record lows. Where will they be by August. People will come back, but will it be enough? Also, will those who come back be willing to give the show a real chance after such a long wait. We've seen it already. Days would have momentary reprieve, just to go back to where they started.

I for one have little hope, I've never liked Dena's writing.
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lysie


GHFan738
Apr 19 2015, 08:06 PM
In the past there hasn't been this long of a lag before the new material started appear. That's the problem this time. Maybe the ratings usually drop in the summer, but they're already at record lows. Where will they be by August. People will come back, but will it be enough? Also, will those who come back be willing to give the show a real chance after such a long wait. We've seen it already. Days would have momentary reprieve, just to go back to where they started.

I for one have little hope, I've never liked Dena's writing.
Right. However, that's not why I've been bringing up summer. Days has been on a downward trend since last spring. What they have now is the product of a year of falling ratings. Unfortunately, they fell relatively slowly and that kept them from making changes earlier. The high ratings at the beginning of last year really screwed us over.
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lysie


Outrageous, I'm not sure if you care or not, but those numbers you were using earlier were Sheffer's new lows, not Dena's.
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lysie
Apr 20 2015, 01:29 AM
Outrageous, I'm not sure if you care or not, but those numbers you were using earlier were Sheffer's new lows, not Dena's.
I'm referring to around the Safe wedding/stepford plaid wearing Sami era. That was Dena I thought...

Anyhooo, that was years ago.
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lysie


outrageous
Apr 20 2015, 01:50 AM
lysie
Apr 20 2015, 01:29 AM
Outrageous, I'm not sure if you care or not, but those numbers you were using earlier were Sheffer's new lows, not Dena's.
I'm referring to around the Safe wedding/stepford plaid wearing Sami era. That was Dena I thought...

Anyhooo, that was years ago.
That was Dena. The numbers you were referring to are not from that time period. Those numbers would have been outstanding at that time.

Am I not being clear? I feel like I get in here and the actual words I saw no longer matter, lol.
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Hugo
Apr 19 2015, 05:36 PM
The Scorpion
Apr 19 2015, 12:19 PM
lysie
Apr 18 2015, 08:28 PM
The Scorpion
Apr 18 2015, 07:45 PM
Well, Days definatley still bad ratings, no wonder with what is shown on screen, lol and clearly has it affected that they lost Ali and James I am totally convinced of this and the combination with bad stories and no real star quality in the remaining cast, this means that many people don't tune in.
What's your explanation for the bad ratings last year?
Sorry for the late response :) ok bad ratings last year, was probably due to poor storytelling viewers were fed up :) Either way, something needs to capture viewers, and Days fail right now with this. And I believe that Ali and James had a strong pull on many viewers more than the remaining cast, it seems that some tune out for good after they left, but I could be wrong? this is only my opinion.
Average for the last 5 months with Ali/James: 2430K viewers (536K women 18-49)
Average for the first 5 months without them: 2410K viewers (495K women 18-49)
If you're going to make comparisons you need to compare the same time frame. You can't compare a period including Feb sweeps with the summer months . And also throw in 2012 so as to compare how the show was doing with Ali and James there between different writing regimes.
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Hugo


JaimeLannister
Apr 20 2015, 05:42 AM
Hugo
Apr 19 2015, 05:36 PM
The Scorpion
Apr 19 2015, 12:19 PM
lysie
Apr 18 2015, 08:28 PM

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Sorry for the late response :) ok bad ratings last year, was probably due to poor storytelling viewers were fed up :) Either way, something needs to capture viewers, and Days fail right now with this. And I believe that Ali and James had a strong pull on many viewers more than the remaining cast, it seems that some tune out for good after they left, but I could be wrong? this is only my opinion.
Average for the last 5 months with Ali/James: 2430K viewers (536K women 18-49)
Average for the first 5 months without them: 2410K viewers (495K women 18-49)
If you're going to make comparisons you need to compare the same time frame. You can't compare a period including Feb sweeps with the summer months . And also throw in 2012 so as to compare how the show was doing with Ali and James there between different writing regimes.
I agree that the comparison is not ideal.
I just don't think James and Ali's departures have impacted the ratings as much as people assume.
But I can give you the averages by trimester if you want.

2012 Trimester 1: 2442K viewers (539K women 18-49)
2012 Trimester 2: 2373K viewers (504K women 18-49)
2012 Trimester 3: 2451K viewers (502K women 18-49)
2012 Trimester 3: 2401K viewers (528K women 18-49)

2013 Trimester 1: 2544K viewers (560K women 18-49)
2013 Trimester 2: 2497K viewers (576K women 18-49)
2013 Trimester 3: 2475K viewers (563K women 18-49)
2013 Trimester 4: 2608K viewers (601K women 18-49)

2014 Trimester 1: 2751K viewers (646K women 18-49)
2014 Trimester 2: 2396K viewers (565K women 18-49)
2014 Trimester 3: 2414K viewers (532K women 18-49)
2014 Trimester 3: 2456K viewers (529K women 18-49)

2015 Trimester 1: 2415K viewers (482K women 18-49)

Days gained a lot of new viewers a some point (late 2013 / early 2014), they were on fire with the fallout of the Bristen wedding, Ericole finally getting together, Nick dumped in the river and coming back from the dead, the Ejabby affair. But then the stories changed and they lost viewers really fast while Ali and James were still on the show.

On the other hand, Days just had its worst trimester ever in the W18-49 demo. Maybe that can be tied to their departures. I personally believe it's more about the bad storylines than about them.
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Thank you for posting. ITA.
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Hugo
Apr 20 2015, 06:37 AM
JaimeLannister
Apr 20 2015, 05:42 AM
Hugo
Apr 19 2015, 05:36 PM
The Scorpion
Apr 19 2015, 12:19 PM

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Average for the last 5 months with Ali/James: 2430K viewers (536K women 18-49)
Average for the first 5 months without them: 2410K viewers (495K women 18-49)
If you're going to make comparisons you need to compare the same time frame. You can't compare a period including Feb sweeps with the summer months . And also throw in 2012 so as to compare how the show was doing with Ali and James there between different writing regimes.
I agree that the comparison is not ideal.
I just don't think James and Ali's departures have impacted the ratings as much as people assume.
But I can give you the averages by trimester if you want.

2012 Trimester 1: 2442K viewers (539K women 18-49)
2012 Trimester 2: 2373K viewers (504K women 18-49)
2012 Trimester 3: 2451K viewers (502K women 18-49)
2012 Trimester 3: 2401K viewers (528K women 18-49)

2013 Trimester 1: 2544K viewers (560K women 18-49)
2013 Trimester 2: 2497K viewers (576K women 18-49)
2013 Trimester 3: 2475K viewers (563K women 18-49)
2013 Trimester 4: 2608K viewers (601K women 18-49)

2014 Trimester 1: 2751K viewers (646K women 18-49)
2014 Trimester 2: 2396K viewers (565K women 18-49)
2014 Trimester 3: 2414K viewers (532K women 18-49)
2014 Trimester 3: 2456K viewers (529K women 18-49)

2015 Trimester 1: 2415K viewers (482K women 18-49)

Days gained a lot of new viewers a some point (late 2013 / early 2014), they were on fire with the fallout of the Bristen wedding, Ericole finally getting together, Nick dumped in the river and coming back from the dead, the Ejabby affair. But then the stories changed and they lost viewers really fast while Ali and James were still on the show.

On the other hand, Days just had its worst trimester ever in the W18-49 demo. Maybe that can be tied to their departures. I personally believe it's more about the bad storylines than about them.
Thanks, Hugo! You're very efficient.

If we take those numbers at face value I guess it is easy to say the drop in viewers is because of James and Ali's departures. However, I think that's more about the writers not knowing what/who to write for after the departure of popular characters than the absence of the characters themselves.

2013 was a really good year for them. Sheesh, why the hell did they abandon that?
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JaimeLannister
Apr 20 2015, 07:18 AM
Hugo
Apr 20 2015, 06:37 AM
JaimeLannister
Apr 20 2015, 05:42 AM
Hugo
Apr 19 2015, 05:36 PM

Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
If you're going to make comparisons you need to compare the same time frame. You can't compare a period including Feb sweeps with the summer months . And also throw in 2012 so as to compare how the show was doing with Ali and James there between different writing regimes.
I agree that the comparison is not ideal.
I just don't think James and Ali's departures have impacted the ratings as much as people assume.
But I can give you the averages by trimester if you want.

2012 Trimester 1: 2442K viewers (539K women 18-49)
2012 Trimester 2: 2373K viewers (504K women 18-49)
2012 Trimester 3: 2451K viewers (502K women 18-49)
2012 Trimester 3: 2401K viewers (528K women 18-49)

2013 Trimester 1: 2544K viewers (560K women 18-49)
2013 Trimester 2: 2497K viewers (576K women 18-49)
2013 Trimester 3: 2475K viewers (563K women 18-49)
2013 Trimester 4: 2608K viewers (601K women 18-49)

2014 Trimester 1: 2751K viewers (646K women 18-49)
2014 Trimester 2: 2396K viewers (565K women 18-49)
2014 Trimester 3: 2414K viewers (532K women 18-49)
2014 Trimester 3: 2456K viewers (529K women 18-49)

2015 Trimester 1: 2415K viewers (482K women 18-49)

Days gained a lot of new viewers a some point (late 2013 / early 2014), they were on fire with the fallout of the Bristen wedding, Ericole finally getting together, Nick dumped in the river and coming back from the dead, the Ejabby affair. But then the stories changed and they lost viewers really fast while Ali and James were still on the show.

On the other hand, Days just had its worst trimester ever in the W18-49 demo. Maybe that can be tied to their departures. I personally believe it's more about the bad storylines than about them.


2013 was a really good year for them. Sheesh, why the hell did they abandon that?
And early 2014.
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JaimeLannister


They didn't abandon early 2014.
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LuvingLumi
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

JaimeLannister
Apr 20 2015, 09:39 AM
They didn't abandon early 2014.
I think they did, look at the drop in viewers from the 1st quarter to the 2nd quarter and if I remember correctly the stories changed drastically after March...
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JaimeLannister


LuvingLumi
Apr 20 2015, 09:47 AM
JaimeLannister
Apr 20 2015, 09:39 AM
They didn't abandon early 2014.
I think they did, look at the drop in viewers from the 1st quarter to the 2nd quarter and if I remember correctly the stories changed drastically after March...
Early 2014 was the start of the shock and awe which they're still continuing now. The drop in the second quarter is realistic because people generally tune in for a shocking twist/reveal of a secret then tune out again once the story starts lagging. The trend of the ratings for the past year and a quarter are typical of a show that focusses on short term and lacks cohesion. 2013 had many flaws but the best thing they had going is the uniform feel the show had. (I still think the day to day breakdown is where 2013 got its glory.)

Also, the tone of 2014 was that of the locker room, juvenile boys variety which did them no favours.
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