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Topic Started: Nov 25 2015, 10:14 PM (14,906 Views)
DesignatedShelley
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So I have a random question that I'm not sure I can word properly, but: you know when it's right before commercial break and the actor has said their last line and then they have a few seconds to look somewhere or do some gesture or make some expression? Does anyone know if the actors get to improvise that themselves, or is that controlled by the directors?
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DesignatedShelley
Dec 10 2015, 11:10 AM
So I have a random question that I'm not sure I can word properly, but: you know when it's right before commercial break and the actor has said their last line and then they have a few seconds to look somewhere or do some gesture or make some expression? Does anyone know if the actors get to improvise that themselves, or is that controlled by the directors?
Just from my knowledge of reading plays, I would think that's scripted/directed.
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DesignatedShelley
Dec 10 2015, 11:10 AM
So I have a random question that I'm not sure I can word properly, but: you know when it's right before commercial break and the actor has said their last line and then they have a few seconds to look somewhere or do some gesture or make some expression? Does anyone know if the actors get to improvise that themselves, or is that controlled by the directors?
I have no idea who sets the tone for that or has the final say, but there used to be a great video of MA, Drake, and AZ on youtube about that. Drake said that Al Rabin told him that if he couldn't figure out how else to end a scene, he should look up, look down, look left and look right. And then AZ had a bunch of looks based on thoughts about leaving the coffeepot on. It was all very Joey Tribbiani.
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^ That video is part of why I asked, it made it seem to me like the producer trusted the actors to do it, since they do it all the freaking time, but I was wondering if that was one of the things that became more strictly controlled after the Rabin era, much like other things.
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Nice to see Drake hasn't steered away from what Al Rabin taught him 30 years ago, LOL. He still does just that!

I do like Zucker's method about forgetting the coffeepot. I literally just did it at my desk. :lol:
Edited by DrewHamilton, Dec 10 2015, 02:28 PM.
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IDK what's going on in genereal, but there was a long stretch, fairly recently, where the actors admitted that they weren't getting any input from the directors at all and were flying solo on what to do in every scene.
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Dec 10 2015, 02:44 PM
IDK what's going on in genereal, but there was a long stretch, fairly recently, where the actors admitted that they weren't getting any input from the directors at all and were flying solo on what to do in every scene.
And it certainly showed. Been this way for years! I think Ed Scott was very hands on with the cast on the set, but he was gone in 2008. I don't think Gary Tomlin cared at all, and it was very apparent for 2008-2011. Noel Maxam appeared to be hands on set but he was gone by the start of 2012. And then we had 3 years of Lisa de Cozette doing God knows what because everything came off as shit until Albert Alarr was promoted to Co-EP.
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I think the lack of input came as the taping schedule sped up. But at some point before that, at least during some of JER's stay, actors were chastised if they didn't do every little thing according to script. That's my understanding, don't have my receipts though. There's obviously a happy medium.
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I can't even discuss Philip's ugly greasy hair.
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Philip looks like an Elvis impersonator that was left to bleach in the desert. Thanks, Days!!!
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granolagirl
Dec 10 2015, 12:39 PM
DesignatedShelley
Dec 10 2015, 11:10 AM
So I have a random question that I'm not sure I can word properly, but: you know when it's right before commercial break and the actor has said their last line and then they have a few seconds to look somewhere or do some gesture or make some expression? Does anyone know if the actors get to improvise that themselves, or is that controlled by the directors?
I have no idea who sets the tone for that or has the final say, but there used to be a great video of MA, Drake, and AZ on youtube about that. Drake said that Al Rabin told him that if he couldn't figure out how else to end a scene, he should look up, look down, look left and look right. And then AZ had a bunch of looks based on thoughts about leaving the coffeepot on. It was all very Joey Tribbiani.
I have that episode, it's from Australian TV when they jumped from 2000 to 2004. When Drake did that thing AZ started to chuckle :D

Some of the actors were asked who or what they thought of when they heard Australia and John Aniston answered "Thaao Penghlis riding a kangaroo".
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It just hit me that Brady is pretty much the male Sami in terms of failed marriages/engagements lol. He was married to Chloe and Theresa, and was engaged to Madison, Kristen, Arianna and I believe Melanie as well (can't remember exactly), not to mention his long term on/off with Nicole.
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I think it's weird that the regimes kept using him to test drive their new creations and didn't just do bricole/broe. I wasn't a fan of either pairing, but both of them were popular enough to be Brady's two main options.
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Dec 10 2015, 02:48 PM
six
Dec 10 2015, 02:44 PM
IDK what's going on in genereal, but there was a long stretch, fairly recently, where the actors admitted that they weren't getting any input from the directors at all and were flying solo on what to do in every scene.
And it certainly showed. Been this way for years! I think Ed Scott was very hands on with the cast on the set, but he was gone in 2008. I don't think Gary Tomlin cared at all, and it was very apparent for 2008-2011. Noel Maxam appeared to be hands on set but he was gone by the start of 2012. And then we had 3 years of Lisa de Cozette doing God knows what because everything came off as shit until Albert Alarr was promoted to Co-EP.
I rememer several actors talking in interviews about how Gary Tomlin would walk up on stage and whisper things in their ears, like how to play the scene because this and that would happen later on.

I don't know how the collaboration works between the EPs and directors because they should be the ones doing the actual directing. I'm sure having worked as both helps, like Noel Maxam and Albert Alarr.
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Dec 10 2015, 06:51 PM
I think it's weird that the regimes kept using him to test drive their new creations and didn't just do bricole/broe. I wasn't a fan of either pairing, but both of them were popular enough to be Brady's two main options.
Those are my two top choices for Brady!
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Dec 10 2015, 06:51 PM
I think it's weird that the regimes kept using him to test drive their new creations and didn't just do bricole/broe. I wasn't a fan of either pairing, but both of them were popular enough to be Brady's two main options.
I never understood why they didn't go for Bricole in a real way during Higley's last run. They were such an obvious pairing.

Broe I liked with KL but, gee whiz, with EM in the role they would not have survived the recast. Chloe and EM's Brady came off as mere acquaintances in just about all their scenes.
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Dec 10 2015, 04:30 PM
It just hit me that Brady is pretty much the male Sami in terms of failed marriages/engagements lol. He was married to Chloe and Theresa, and was engaged to Madison, Kristen, Arianna and I believe Melanie as well (can't remember exactly), not to mention his long term on/off with Nicole.
I feel like it's because EM just hasn't had chemistry with any of his female counterparts. I've found him blah with women. I think Nicole was better than others, but I think that's mainly Ari has better chemistry with folks generally. Even with Nicole, I liked Brady better as friends than a lover. Years ago, I remember a female character was brought on seemingly just for him to have that great romance, and I got all excited, then was completely disappointed at how lacking that pairing was. Can't even remember her name now.

I'm no proponent of Sami, but I don't feel like she's been paired with as many male counterparts as Brady has. Austin, Lucas, Brandon, Ej, Rafe are the only ones who come to mind as love interests (I don't count the date rape by Alan), and Sami's been around a lot longer than Brady.

If anything, I feel Kate is the female equivalent of Brady. I call her the Welcome Wagon of Salem, and I don't say it happily. I love LK and think it's a shame she seems to bed every guy, then get tossed aside. Seems like they could give her a real love interest. I don't mind the idea of Eduardo, but it's a shame they can't give her a love interest where she hasn't slept with another family member. By the same token, Kate can be used easily anywhere, so maybe I need to get over wanting her to have that special relationship and welcome her as a utility infielder (or the DOOL greeter).

Brady, I'm ready to give up on as far as couples go. I do like him J&M's son and Vic's grandson and as a friend to others, when the writers write him well. I want all of J&M's family around, but if I had to pick, I'd prefer Eric staying and Brady going.

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JaimeLannister
Dec 11 2015, 12:42 AM
six
Dec 10 2015, 06:51 PM
I think it's weird that the regimes kept using him to test drive their new creations and didn't just do bricole/broe. I wasn't a fan of either pairing, but both of them were popular enough to be Brady's two main options.
I never understood why they didn't go for Bricole in a real way during Higley's last run. They were such an obvious pairing.

Broe I liked with KL but, gee whiz, with EM in the role they would not have survived the recast. Chloe and EM's Brady came off as mere acquaintances in just about all their scenes.
I'm the other way around on the recasts. KL-broe was painful to watch, but I thought EM/NB had enough chemistry in their normal scenes that I was open to them being given a chance, even though I was strongly Team Philip for Chloe.

I could definitely see Kate as being the equivalent of Brady, but I think the advantage she has over him is that LK has chemistry with just about everyone, and Kate's not as much of a sap as Brady is. Brady wants to get married to everyone he sleeps with. Kate's usually just having a little fun.
Edited by six, Dec 11 2015, 09:24 AM.
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Dec 11 2015, 09:21 AM
I could definitely see Kate as being the equivalent of Brady, but I think the advantage she has over him is that LK has chemistry with just about everyone, and Kate's not as much of a sap as Brady is. Brady wants to get married to everyone he sleeps with. Kate's usually just having a little fun.
I agree.
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Brady has become pretty gross in how he does any woman who gives him a second glance. Has another male had as many women as him? I count 7 (Chloe, Nicole, Arianna, Madison, Kristen, Melanie and Theresa) and it's mega gross if you think he had 6 of them since 2009 with not many months between them.
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