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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 25 2015, 10:14 PM (14,905 Views) | |
| JTClassicSoaps | Dec 11 2015, 02:43 PM Post #261 |
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I see your point about him being similar to Kate. I actually thought EM did have good chemistry with Sarah Brown but the writing just wasn't there. He also had good chemistry with ED but I loathed and still loath the idea of Brady/Kristen. Although ultimately I want a Phloe HEA, Chloe was written as Brady's one true love during the KL years and the show screwed up by not even acknowledging that at all since EM arrived, I think ultimately that's one of the reasons none of his other relationships have worked for me. Also I've never been a Bricole fan but I even I agree that Nicole was Brady's 2nd most significant relationship. I Hate Thrady and think both characters need a reset. If the show had to pick one of Eric/Brady to send away I think Eric still more potential being in Salem, Brady is washed out. |
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| Amazee-Dayzee | Dec 12 2015, 01:31 AM Post #262 |
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Just a question. Which one was older? Bo or Isabella? I go by the Soap Opera Central profiles which says that Isabella was born in 1960 and Bo was born in 1963. |
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| frivolity | Dec 12 2015, 10:39 AM Post #263 |
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I think that SOC profile is accurate. It's kind of ridiculous based on the ages of the actors who portrayed the characters, but yes, Bo is supposed to be younger than Isabella just as he is the youngest of the Brady siblings. |
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| Bobette | Dec 12 2015, 10:52 AM Post #264 |
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They were spread out over a longer period of time, but John has at least 10. Ava, Kate, Hope, Kristen, Tori, Yvette DuPres, Diana, Danielle, Marlena, and Isabella. Some of these were when he thought he was Roman, but he's still the same guy! :) |
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| sitrian | Dec 12 2015, 10:56 AM Post #265 |
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But that's over like 30 years. |
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| Kyrai | Dec 12 2015, 11:34 AM Post #266 |
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Rebecca was in there too. I never minded that John played the field when he wasn't in a committed relationship because when he was in love (or falling in love), he was faithful (when in his right mind). He was faithful to Diana, Isabella, (outside of being torn when Marlena came back from the dead), and Kristen (at least physically. I always felt he truly loved Marlena but marked her off limits because he thought Marlena loved Roman and tried to respect her wishes to save her marriage). |
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| Bobette | Dec 12 2015, 11:38 AM Post #267 |
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And Gina Von Amberg, too...but I was torn about whether to include her with the whole Hope/Gina thing happening, too. Decided to err on the side of UNDER reporting! :blulaugh: |
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| lysie | Dec 12 2015, 11:40 AM Post #268 |
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I've felt like he moves on too fast. Even the build up to the affair with Marlena was just after Isabella died. When Marlena died as the serial killer in 2004, he was kissing Kate like only a month later. Until these more recent issues with writers, he's rarely been more than a couple of weeks without a love interest...if that. That being said, it does seem different with Brady. And I've never understood why they didn't try Broe with EM. I think with EM's Brady part of the issue is that none of his pairings gave been omg so awesome that they've stayed particularly memorable, so they just keep trying. |
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| JaimeLannister | Dec 12 2015, 11:59 AM Post #269 |
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Oh, wow I had no idea John got around so much, lol. |
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| Bobette | Dec 12 2015, 12:00 PM Post #270 |
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They seem to move into the next relationships too quickly quite a lot. Makes me think they're afraid of letting characters be alone and be allowed to mourn and get themselves together and ready to move on...like the audience will be bored and stop watching. Dannifer moved on with lightning speed, and I hate that they seem to be moving in that direction with Rope. I'm a fan of Rope and want it to happen but I'm afraid they're going to sabotage themselves with general audience reaction if they move too quickly. I've also wanted them to try out Broe with EM. IMO, that or revisiting Bricole are the two best Brady options. |
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| DesignatedShelley | Dec 12 2015, 12:39 PM Post #271 |
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John was like the James Bond of the day. But I really don't mind so long as he was single and not cheating. I think the thing that stands out to me with Brady is not how many pairings he's had (it's a soap), but how few of them I care for. I kinda like Bricole, but I like them better as friends. I had no feelings about Broe 1.0 but I could dig EM's chemistry with NB. And that's as strong as my feelings ever got. With John, obviously his soul mate is Marlena, but I enjoyed some of those other pairings when she was gone, like Diana and Isabella. |
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| Amazee-Dayzee | Dec 12 2015, 03:37 PM Post #272 |
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So say this rumor about John being Dickie Martin is true. The DiMera's wanted a super soldier they could raise as an infant so when Dickie "died", Stefano had someone steal him. How do we get around the fact that Susan Hunter murdered David Martin for causing the death of Dickie? The DiMera's faked his death also? |
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| six | Dec 12 2015, 03:53 PM Post #273 |
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I'm one of the people who likes the Dickie theory, but in my opinion, Stefano wouldn't be involved. At some point Dickie has to go to the Alamains and be renamed Forrest. Stefano isn't supposed to have crossed paths with John until way after that. I don't think there's any reason to undo Susan killing David. |
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| Bobette | Dec 12 2015, 04:05 PM Post #274 |
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For me, this works best if they're able to get Denise Alexander to come back to play Susan, even if it's only for a short visit. |
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| six | Dec 12 2015, 04:13 PM Post #275 |
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Yeah, that would be a must for me, along with flashbacks to the original stories of how Dickie came to be and how he "died." |
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| Kyrai | Dec 12 2015, 04:28 PM Post #276 |
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I think fake Marlena's death in 1986 changed my attitude about a soap star mourning, if not men in general. I remember thinking RoJohn was never going to have another love, and DH left to pursue greener pastures, so I was excited about Diana and enjoyed their adventures. John falling for Marlena after Isabella didn't phase me a bit. Marlena told Abe she loved both Roman and John when she had to pick between them in Tale of Two Romans, and I always wanted Jarlena. Similarly, John loved both, so while I was shocked and surprised the writers allowed Perfect Marlena to have an affair with John, as awful as I felt affairs were, I loved every minute of it. Maybe more because it was like a guilty pleasure. I had given up on them, so I was a happy happy camper, even if it did set up years of torment for me. I remember thinking, how could John be with Rebecca and then Kristen after Marlena, but I rationalized that he was doing the right thing trying to get over her, so I'm sure I applied that to Kate. Besides Marlena being jealous of Rebecca and Hot Springs equaled more guilty pleasure. John thought Marlena was pregnant with Roman's baby so, much as I never liked him with Kristen, I thought he was right to try to move on, even though I knew that Belle was his baby and was dying for them to find out! Basically, good stories corrupt me. I'm a sellout. :) I really didn't like how fast John fell for Kate, but I credited it to John being so miserable, he was trying to drown out his loneliness. I also liked LK, so I felt kinda sad that she didn't have a guy like John because I did like them together. Of course, I wanted Jarlena and was glad when Doc got back (till that awful awful North story), but Jate was the first time I remember liking Kate. I've always wished Roman would be recast so maybe Kate and Roman could get back together. Edited by Kyrai, Dec 12 2015, 04:30 PM.
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| lysie | Dec 12 2015, 04:30 PM Post #277 |
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Why would we even need to get around that? |
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| Amazee-Dayzee | Dec 12 2015, 05:01 PM Post #278 |
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Because I figured John would want to get to know his birth father and its kind of awful that Susan murdered David because she thought Dickie died but he didn't. Susan might end up having another nervous breakdown. Besides, I think it would give Dulie a front-burner storyline if David was alive. David was Julie's first love and the father of her son (who would be John's half-brother). I didn't get to see Susan/Julie the first time around because I was born 25 years later. Would be interesting to me to see Doug/Julie/David/Susan and Julie and Susan's rivalry again. |
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| six | Dec 12 2015, 05:37 PM Post #279 |
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It would be awful for Susan and for John, and it could lead to great scenes for the actors. The angle with David's death is one of the best parts of the theory because of the impact it would have on John/Susan. |
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| lysie | Dec 12 2015, 05:39 PM Post #280 |
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Oh okay. I thought you were saying they would have to undo it for the story to work. |
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