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Topic Started: Nov 25 2015, 10:14 PM (14,911 Views)
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nananana7
Nov 27 2015, 04:52 PM
I don't know the answer to the above question,

but it reminds me I've been wanting to ask ...
Bo and Isabella didn't know each other very long, did they? Maybe a year or two from the time they found out they were bio-siblings until her death? Does anyone know the length of time?
No one knew her very long. She was only around a few years.
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Oh I just remembered. When Haiden first met, Aiden referred to Brady as Hope's nephew so there is that. So does this mean when Belle was married to Philip, she was his aunt and half-sister? Bit gross to think about though.

And I just realized that Steve is technically Brady's uncle since he's the widower of his aunt Marina. Isabella's half-sister and the reason why Ernesto or one of the reasons did Cruise of Deception: Isabella accidentally killed Marina in a fight. And Kayla was jailed for it. Was it her or Kim who gave birth in prison?
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Amazee-Dayzee
Nov 27 2015, 05:47 PM
Oh I just remembered. When Haiden first met, Aiden referred to Brady as Hope's nephew so there is that. So does this mean when Belle was married to Philip, she was his aunt and half-sister? Bit gross to think about though.

And I just realized that Steve is technically Brady's uncle since he's the widower of his aunt Marina. Isabella's half-sister and the reason why Ernesto or one of the reasons did Cruise of Deception: Isabella accidentally killed Marina in a fight. And Kayla was jailed for it. Was it her or Kim who gave birth in prison?
It wasn't Kayla. She went into labor while she was testifying at her trial.

I've never thought before about how Steve and Bo are connected through the Toscanos. It's a small world...
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Yeah it is. Though because Brady didn't exist when Marina was alive and married to Steve, many people will say it doesn't really count but technically it would since Steve never divorced Marina. She died. And Marina still is Brady's aunt even if she is dead.
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^I've always sort of wished they could get into that a little bit, especially since Marina was such a terrible person. I'm not sure what the story would be without bring her back from the dead, though, and as far as I'm concerned that's unnecessary. :P
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clubkylie
Nov 25 2015, 10:59 PM
Well I just watched Tuesday's episode. It was so jacked up!! I was cry-yelling at my tv "Don't kill Wendy! Don't kill Wendy!" This storyline is OOC and I can't look away (even though it stresses me out).

On a lighter note: maybe Steve and Eric can become drinking buddies?
That was pretty grim. The poor girl.
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

laurondo
Nov 27 2015, 03:51 AM
Daysalltheway
Nov 26 2015, 03:40 PM
Thanks for the recaps everyone. So Philip has one leg? I guess they changed that at some point or is he an amphibian? Lmao
He lost his leg in the war or something.
He lost his leg in Iraq in 2005, remember Philip was a Marine... All that happened during Stan, and Sami trying to escape the bunker after the guys got there to rescue Philip
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Does Salem still have the death penalty? I know that Illinois abolished it but in-universe they probably would have abolished it a lot sooner since they nearly EXECUTED an innocent woman.

Did Sami ever find out about Kate and Lucas framing her?
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Amazee-Dayzee
Nov 27 2015, 08:16 PM
Does Salem still have the death penalty? I know that Illinois abolished it but in-universe they probably would have abolished it a lot sooner since they nearly EXECUTED an innocent woman.

Did Sami ever find out about Kate and Lucas framing her?
I don't think it's canon that Salem is actually located in IL, is it? They're close to Chicago apparently, but I think the actual location of Salem has been purposely vague for years to give it a more "Every town, USA" feel. At least that's what I've seen/read.

I'm sure they'd write a death penalty story, regardless of the laws, if they wanted to. I'm not sure they would, though, considering how controversial the issue has become, and soaps' strange aversion to hot button topics as of late.

Wasn't Higley behind Todd's almost execution on OLTL?

EDIT: Just checked, and yep, Todd's almost execution was Higley. She wrote a ton of dark-themed stuff for OLTL during her tenure.
Edited by cord08, Nov 27 2015, 08:40 PM.
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Yes. Higley was behind Victor Jr.'s (Carlivati brought RH back and made them twins with cosmetic surgery for Victor Jr.) execution. Passions did two executions: one for Theresa and another for Luis and Passions was supposedly located in New England somewhere. JER wrote Sami, Theresa and Luis's executions.

It seems like it fluctuates. When Sami was on trial for Bernardi's murder, she was worried about going back to death row. Even though I don't think with the near-miss the state would put Sami back on death row for ANY reason. Then it seemed like she was getting a life sentence. Chad said something about the death penalty but Justin was going for life. And Abby had a death row nightmare about Chad. So I think it varies up and down.
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Boisthebest
Nov 26 2015, 08:13 AM
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Nov 25 2015, 11:59 PM
A random question; which did you hate more, the Langan era or the Tomsell era. For me it is Tomsell hands down. I remember the anger at Langan back in the early 2000s and jubilation when he was fired, but 2014 is hands down the worse year ever for me.
Well I did hate Langan so much. As for TomSell I despised them so much that because of how they trashed Bo I quit watching totally. And did not return until I read PR/Bo was coming back and that Peter liked the story and was excited. So TomSell won by default as the worst since there was no PR/Bo to keep me staying tuned even when I hated the story.

I despised Langan for many of the same reasons I despise a lot of writers from JER on.......too much reliance on gimmicks. Too black and white. Damsel in distress overkill. Maddona (heroines) vs whore (female villains) mentality with women.
Men too easily manipulated by the women who were villains. Plot drive vs character driven....and I like the latter. And the very obvious pushing of their own favorites......may as well have hung signs over them, "The HW loves me...." That seems to have plagued many shows IMO.
What was Langan's big story? I wasn;t on the boards then, so I have no idea why people hate him. LOL
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Someone actually did mention on the show in recent months that they didn't have the death penalty anymore. Maybe in reference to Chad when they thought he was the killer?
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Wasn't he the one whose brilliant idea was to have the Gemini twins be aliens?
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granolagirl
Nov 27 2015, 08:47 PM
Someone actually did mention on the show in recent months that they didn't have the death penalty anymore. Maybe in reference to Chad when they thought he was the killer?
Didn't Justin say they should bring the death penalty back just for Chad? If it wasn't Justin, it was someone else.
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granolagirl
Nov 27 2015, 08:47 PM
Someone actually did mention on the show in recent months that they didn't have the death penalty anymore. Maybe in reference to Chad when they thought he was the killer?
I must have not been paying attention. Still it would make sense. After the VERY close call with Sami (she died; her heart stopped and she was going through the tunnel of light; Mike brought her back with mouth-to-mouth, though that wouldn't do anything with the potassium in her system), I doubt they would want to have another mishap.

Sami worried about going back to death row would be her overreacting for being framed in Bernardi's murder. Chad also would make scene since he lost his memories so he would be overly nervous.
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Nov 27 2015, 08:51 PM
granolagirl
Nov 27 2015, 08:47 PM
Someone actually did mention on the show in recent months that they didn't have the death penalty anymore. Maybe in reference to Chad when they thought he was the killer?
Didn't Justin say they should bring the death penalty back just for Chad? If it wasn't Justin, it was someone else.
I don't think it was Justin, though I'm not sure who it was if it was said. Could have been. Anyway they need to get their stories straight. Sami was terrified of going back to death row and Chad and Abby both were afraid of that happening.
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Nov 26 2015, 10:53 AM
Was it Higley or Tomsell that killed Nicole's second baby at 38 weeks in 2012? I think there was a writer switch around that time? It never made sense that it survived during the Daysaster, only to be killed months later.
Tomsell. :redface:

I'm pretty sure he was there when she had the 1st miscarriage too. :censored:
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Hennifer
Nov 27 2015, 12:05 PM
Aquamarine
Nov 27 2015, 08:59 AM
I wasn't watching the show when Belle was on before. I'd like to know more about her.
I know she's John and Marlena's daughter, named after Isabella I assume, and that she is Eric, Sami and Brady's half sister.
What was her job? Who was she involved with, other than Shawn Douglas? Who were her friends?
Yes, Belle is John and Marlena's daughter conceived via an affair so she was originally thought to be Roman's. Sami found out about their affair (when she saw them having sex in the Titan board room) and was very upset and switched the paternity results so it was believed Belle was Roman's. Sami then kidnapped Belle and tried to sell her on the black market. Obviously she eventually got back where she belonged and her real paternity was revealed.

When John and Marlena returned from their honeymoon in 1999 Belle was suddenly a teenager. They tried to make her seem a little rebellious for a minute when she first came back by having her crush on an older man (and Sami's love interest) Brandon Walker, but after that she was essentially the quintessential good girl. Her friends were Shawn, Mimi, Chloe, and Philip. She had a crush on Shawn pretty much right from the start but it took him two years to finally ask her out and they went to the last blast together and were a couple ever since. The drama of their relationship is poster earlier in the thread (a girl named Jan was raped and Shawn covered for her pretending to be the father, Shawn thought he shot someone, etc) so they had several breakups. They wore purity rings and were abstinent. More in terms of the answer to your question, out of high school when they went to college Belle was going to be a fashion designer and work for her father's company Basic Black. This is around when there was a writing change and a change in the actress (from KS to MM). Belle had lied to Shawn to give her mom an alibi (Marlena was the Salem Stalker) which resulted in the death of Shawn's relatives so he was going to leave town but was kidnapped by Jan and held as prisoner in a cage. During that time, Belle started a relationship with Philip and lost her virginity to him. Shawn finally escaped but had amnesia and actually thought he was with Jan. Belle and Philip were to get married and Shawn regained his memory and remembered he loved Belle and crashed his motorcycle through the church to try and stop the wedding but it was too late. Then began a couple of years of wistful (and very boring imo) "I want to be with you Shawn but I married Philip" and then they were going to tell Philip and break it off when he lost his leg at war. Then somehow they ended up in a barn freezing and ended up having sex but didn't remember. So belle naturally assumed it was Philips child (since she thought she'd never slept with Shawn) and again decided to stay with Philip bc she thought she was having his baby. In the meantime, Shawn moved on with Mimi and they married but Mimi knew Claire was his and didn't tell him. When that reveal came out is when Jason Cook left and was replaced with Brandon Beemer. Then they eventually got back together (after other issues that I won't get into) but Belle was grieving her dad and slept with Philip right before she married Shawn. He didn't find out until after they married and eventually worked things out and left to sail the world together as a family.

Sorry I'm not sure I answered your question. When Belle was played by KS she was a student then planned to be a fashion designer for Basic Black. Later when it was MM she wanted to be a nurse. We don't know what she is yet but I hope they have her come back with a career. In terms of friends she was very popular in high school and very nice to everyone (I don't know if you know Chloe's history but she was bullied and called ghoul girl and Shawn and Belle were pretty much the only ones that were nice to her until she had a makeover and then Philip fell for her). The show was a bit like a family sitcom in term of that group where Belle was nice to the quintessential nerd, overweight girl, quiet girl etc. After high school her friends were still Mimi, Chloe, Philip, Shawn and Brady (her brother who was dating Chloe) as well as the "alien" twins area and Cassie.
Thank you! :)
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Nov 27 2015, 08:21 AM
TO DJsMOMMY: I thought I was replying to you, but accidentally must have hit the wrong button. This is in response to your question about Melissa and Jack. :)

This is from Soap Central's Who's Who of Days Characters re Melissa, which only lists Jack as someone she dated/was engaged to: "Later in 1987, after finding Kayla Brady passed out on the pier, Melissa became the number one suspect in her attempted murder. Harper Devereaux continued to frame Melissa, who eventually fell in love with Jack, who had turned to her for comfort. Jack ran against Melissa's adoptive father Mickey, and proposed to her to better his campaign. When Melissa learned he was using her she dumped him, but not before humiliating him in public. Shortly afterwards, she left town." You get a few more details from Wikipedia: "Melissa eventually fell in love with Jack Deveraux but was heartbroken when he married Kayla Brady instead. Melissa was eventually accused of being behind Kayla's poisoning but was cleared. In 1988, Melissa was one of the few people who stood by Jack after Jack committed marital rape against Kayla. To the horror of her family and friends, Melissa made plans to marry Jack after his divorce from Kayla came through. Shortly before their wedding, Melissa saw Jack with another woman and discovered that Jack was only using her to make himself look good. She called off the wedding and denounced Jack to the rest of Salem before leaving town."

The scene you saw was probably her telling him off at the altar.

Thank you! The clip cut off before she said anything, but they were standing at the altar, Jack all smiles & her giving looks that could kill.

1987-1990 I didn't watch all episodes because I was so busy with after-school activities. I missed a lot of Justin & Adrienne during that time too.
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DJsMommy
Nov 27 2015, 08:54 PM
KLK
Nov 26 2015, 10:53 AM
Was it Higley or Tomsell that killed Nicole's second baby at 38 weeks in 2012? I think there was a writer switch around that time? It never made sense that it survived during the Daysaster, only to be killed months later.
Tomsell. :redface:

I'm pretty sure he was there when she had the 1st miscarriage too. :censored:
Wasn't her stillborn son named Daniel Rafael Hernandez? I believe that they were gonna put Rafe's name on the birth certificate but since he was stillborn he could have been buried as Daniel DiMera or Daniel Walker.
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