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While I do see clear signs of Dena in Dec & Jan and I did see a significant difference in the way November was written in comparison to Dec & Jan, I still have a hard time believing this story that some are circulating that ONE writer can be so in charge for a period THEN another writer is the ONE so in charge for a period. Vincent, Brandon ... they all mention Josh is who they discussed their returns and story with, etc. That's significant because they started airing last week. Greg has mentioned changes were happening upstairs during those scripts that came down for crash.
That maybe be true and some of the stuff this past week is a little more tolerable than others..Victor and Demitrios and the Philip/Belle/Shawn D stuff might be mostly Josh driven. However, if you weren't around in 2008 then the Ava crap and the fact that Dena spoke hard and heavy for Rafe should be MAJOR clues that those pieces are NOTHING but hers. If the rumors/thoughts are true, then Corday asked Dena back and she probably forced her way into the control for the period we've been griping about. Those of us who suffered thru that period can see her "fingerprints" all over those pieces for sure.
While I do see clear signs of Dena in Dec & Jan and I did see a significant difference in the way November was written in comparison to Dec & Jan, I still have a hard time believing this story that some are circulating that ONE writer can be so in charge for a period THEN another writer is the ONE so in charge for a period. Vincent, Brandon ... they all mention Josh is who they discussed their returns and story with, etc. That's significant because they started airing last week. Greg has mentioned changes were happening upstairs during those scripts that came down for crash.
That maybe be true and some of the stuff this past week is a little more tolerable than others..Victor and Demitrios and the Philip/Belle/Shawn D stuff might be mostly Josh driven. However, if you weren't around in 2008 then the Ava crap and the fact that Dena spoke hard and heavy for Rafe should be MAJOR clues that those pieces are NOTHING but hers. If the rumors/thoughts are true, then Corday asked Dena back and she probably forced her way into the control for the period we've been griping about. Those of us who suffered thru that period can see her "fingerprints" all over those pieces for sure.
The change in Rafe from the fall to now is one of the biggest pieces of evidence, IMO, that there was some kind of change.
I realize there are people that think we're dumb and desperate and making up stuff when we talk about this, but I just don't see how it's not obvious. We may be wrong about what changed, but there's no getting around that something changed.
While I do see clear signs of Dena in Dec & Jan and I did see a significant difference in the way November was written in comparison to Dec & Jan, I still have a hard time believing this story that some are circulating that ONE writer can be so in charge for a period THEN another writer is the ONE so in charge for a period. Vincent, Brandon ... they all mention Josh is who they discussed their returns and story with, etc. That's significant because they started airing last week. Greg has mentioned changes were happening upstairs during those scripts that came down for crash.
That maybe be true and some of the stuff this past week is a little more tolerable than others..Victor and Demitrios and the Philip/Belle/Shawn D stuff might be mostly Josh driven. However, if you weren't around in 2008 then the Ava crap and the fact that Dena spoke hard and heavy for Rafe should be MAJOR clues that those pieces are NOTHING but hers. If the rumors/thoughts are true, then Corday asked Dena back and she probably forced her way into the control for the period we've been griping about. Those of us who suffered thru that period can see her "fingerprints" all over those pieces for sure.
The change in Rafe from the fall to now is one of the biggest pieces of evidence, IMO, that there was some kind of change.
I realize there are people that think we're dumb and desperate and making up stuff when we talk about this, but I just don't see how it's not obvious. We may be wrong about what changed, but there's no getting around that something changed.
For me, the biggest piece of evidence that something happened is the fact that Dena had to take a "leave of absence." I mean, there are legit medical/family LOAs, but this never felt like that. If she had time for FB chats, there probably wasn't a real personal crisis going on.
I hope we are not losing the Bope house set. It's one of my favorites if not my favorite.
Oh, it's probably a set up for Hope and Ciara to be "homeless" and <cough! cough!> NEED a place to stay. . . cue Rafe even though there's room at cousin Jennifer's in her big house and a room at her dad's B and B. :rolleyes:
I bet there will conveniently be no room at Jen's now that Abby is back living there, and with the baby.
While I do see clear signs of Dena in Dec & Jan and I did see a significant difference in the way November was written in comparison to Dec & Jan, I still have a hard time believing this story that some are circulating that ONE writer can be so in charge for a period THEN another writer is the ONE so in charge for a period. Vincent, Brandon ... they all mention Josh is who they discussed their returns and story with, etc. That's significant because they started airing last week. Greg has mentioned changes were happening upstairs during those scripts that came down for crash.
That maybe be true and some of the stuff this past week is a little more tolerable than others..Victor and Demitrios and the Philip/Belle/Shawn D stuff might be mostly Josh driven. However, if you weren't around in 2008 then the Ava crap and the fact that Dena spoke hard and heavy for Rafe should be MAJOR clues that those pieces are NOTHING but hers. If the rumors/thoughts are true, then Corday asked Dena back and she probably forced her way into the control for the period we've been griping about. Those of us who suffered thru that period can see her "fingerprints" all over those pieces for sure.
The change in Rafe from the fall to now is one of the biggest pieces of evidence, IMO, that there was some kind of change.
I realize there are people that think we're dumb and desperate and making up stuff when we talk about this, but I just don't see how it's not obvious. We may be wrong about what changed, but there's no getting around that something changed.
For me, the biggest piece of evidence that something happened is the fact that Dena had to take a "leave of absence." I mean, there are legit medical/family LOAs, but this never felt like that. If she had time for FB chats, there probably wasn't a real personal crisis going on.
Well yeah. There's that too, lol. Also, if you think back to that facebook chat she did, pretty much everything she talked about was from Dec/January on. That's a little weird for someone who was supposedly writing what was about to start airing.
The change in Rafe from the fall to now is one of the biggest pieces of evidence, IMO, that there was some kind of change.
I realize there are people that think we're dumb and desperate and making up stuff when we talk about this, but I just don't see how it's not obvious. We may be wrong about what changed, but there's no getting around that something changed.
For me, the biggest piece of evidence that something happened is the fact that Dena had to take a "leave of absence." I mean, there are legit medical/family LOAs, but this never felt like that. If she had time for FB chats, there probably wasn't a real personal crisis going on.
Well yeah. There's that too, lol. Also, if you think back to that facebook chat she did, pretty much everything she talked about was from Dec/January on. That's a little weird for someone who was supposedly writing what was about to start airing.
On the bright aside we've seen almost everything she talked about. So maybe that's the end of it.
The change in Rafe from the fall to now is one of the biggest pieces of evidence, IMO, that there was some kind of change.
I realize there are people that think we're dumb and desperate and making up stuff when we talk about this, but I just don't see how it's not obvious. We may be wrong about what changed, but there's no getting around that something changed.
Before? Not at all dumb, maybe initially desperate.
Now? I see "Dena" in neon signs over most of the stories in late Dec/Jan (comparing it to what I've watched on YT). There is no QUESTION the writing was a lot different in November than it was in December/January.
Thinking about it a little more, I guess I can see how co-writers can be so independent of each other. Not from episode to episode but from time frame (October/November) to time frame (December/January).
- They're co-head writers. - Ken gives Josh the helm for 50th Anniversary. - Dena seethes. She manages to get Ken to give her the reigns back and he back-burns Josh. - Ken sees he may have made a mistake. LOA.
* Replace Ken (or not) with whatever PTB is caring enough to do writer changes.
Two of the segments being from Rafe and Ava's points of view indicates everything that's wrong with it. Not only are they her favorites but Ava is a psycho out to ruin a supercouple. She doesn't get a Valentine's Day focus.
This show has two classic supercouples in love on canvas, a young supercouple and maybe one they'd try to reunite (J&A). Hope as someone mentioned could have been reminiscing about Bo. Maybe focus on actual real romance instead of some alternate reality.
This all makes sense, but meh it's just an episode that is a dream within a soap which is rather harmless.
Re: Doug & Julie and Valentine's Day. Part of me wonders if they're going to have a couple get married that day at the Martin House, non-dream *be afraid* lol Nah, maybe it's just D & J participating in everybody's dream.
I do think Ava's dream will probably turn into a nightmare in which S & K overcome.
It does make me chuckle that a daily thread was started with this clip earlier this week (the July 4, 2011 film clip). The "hair spray and open flames" warning, heh...
It's very rare that the daily threads are a message.
Friday is the worse day this week,but the rest of the week doesn't look very promising either. Wake me up when Justin finally has something worth while tuning in for.
I blame Dena for a lot of this crap, but Josh has been that good either. I have no hope for Beth either.
remember how marlene/darryl wrote the whole john/hope marriage thing and everyone was afraid they'd sleep together again and repeat the worst storyline in history? He brought it up in 2012 in order to 'fix' what the old writers screwed up and i'm so glad they did. Maybe these writers are trying to fix what happened to steve / kayla where ava is concerned and it really doesn't turn out like what we assume...? Just a thought...
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Jan 30 2016, 11:26 PM
TheresaProbably a Gone With The Wind type saga...or a Mystery dream Nicole I'm going to guess a western Abigail Horror flick
RafeSuper Hero story line
CiaraHigh School Musical
AvaPorno
The viewersone of those sickening torture movies...
It all sounds blah!!! I rather we got a Valentine's Day wedding between one of the couples instead, but there's no way S&K or J&M are getting married right now with all the drama going on. Or Chabby for that matter.
remember how marlene/darryl wrote the whole john/hope marriage thing and everyone was afraid they'd sleep together again and repeat the worst storyline in history? He brought it up in 2012 in order to 'fix' what the old writers screwed up and i'm so glad they did. Maybe these writers are trying to fix what happened to steve / kayla where ava is concerned and it really doesn't turn out like what we assume...? Just a thought...
I don't think that's what's going on in this case. Ava didn't need to be revisited in this way to fix their relationship. This is just Dena and her ego, IMO.
Years ago their was a lady in red dream sequence with Steve and Kayla and they actually used the popular song by Chris Deburgh I believe. Kayla looked absolutely stunning and she was dancing with Steve. That was my favorite Days dream sequence. I wish they could do something like this for one of the couples on Valentines Day.
That was during the deaf storyline and Steve and Kayla danced to it the night before they're wedding.
Years ago their was a lady in red dream sequence with Steve and Kayla and they actually used the popular song by Chris Deburgh I believe. Kayla looked absolutely stunning and she was dancing with Steve. That was my favorite Days dream sequence. I wish they could do something like this for one of the couples on Valentines Day.
That was during the deaf storyline and Steve and Kayla danced to it the night before they're wedding.
Years ago their was a lady in red dream sequence with Steve and Kayla and they actually used the popular song by Chris Deburgh I believe. Kayla looked absolutely stunning and she was dancing with Steve. That was my favorite Days dream sequence. I wish they could do something like this for one of the couples on Valentines Day.
That was during the deaf storyline and Steve and Kayla danced to it the night before they're wedding.
"The Lady In Red"
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