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cord08
Feb 5 2016, 04:52 PM
Hugo
Feb 5 2016, 04:46 PM
[twitter=greg_meng/status/695719199784570881]
Does this mean DC is still there, I wonder? If they do an Aiden back from the dead story... :rolleyes:
The could bring Aiden back without resurrecting the guy who tried to kill Hope. All they have to do is have Andre/Stefano have kidnapped the real Aiden at some point and replaced him with a doppelganger. My preference is that we find out he replaced him early on - maybe sometime after the beach house or even before.

Then you have DC back as Aiden, but you don't have to redeem him from the attempted murder crap or resurrect him.
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Feb 5 2016, 04:52 PM
Does this mean DC is still there, I wonder?

The exact wording from comings and goings --
"Daniel Cosgrove (Aiden Jennings):
The actor, who played Aiden from 2014-2015 and was presumably killed by Bo in November, is back at the studio filming. Look for him to first air in late spring."

The wording implies he is currently filming.
Edited by nananana7, Feb 5 2016, 05:08 PM.
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Feb 5 2016, 04:57 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 04:51 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 04:42 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 04:21 PM

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I don't think that's the same thing. :blink:

It's just hard for me to believe that Steve really felt coerced to have sex with Ava because of the way it was written.
It is the same thing. You're basically saying that Steve made bad decisions or stupid mistakes before he ever ended up in that room with Ava. He didn't look for Kayla, he didn't tell the police, he didn't do this or that. And all of that may be totally true. He made bad choices and bad decisions.

But when he was in that room, he knew that Kayla had been missing for at least three days without food or water (Ava told him that on Tuesday). Sure, he could have refused, but there was a pretty good chance that Kayla would have died before they got to her. His best chance, even if there was no guarantee, was to do what Ava demanded. Ava told him she had all the power and that Kayla's life was in his hands. Regardless of the bad decisions that put him in that situation, he was forced to have intercourse with Ava to save Kayla's life.

That's no different than a woman who makes bad decisions that put her in a dangerous situation. You can criticize those decisions if you want, but it doesn't make the guy who forces her to have sex (or has sex with her without her consent) any less of a rapist.
speaking for my post along similar lines (which you weren't replying to, I know)...I was blaming Steve (well the writers) for his passiveness and stupidity beforehand and not for the rape.
It was a separate issue.

I couldn't care less about what happened with Ava -it was such a stupid plot device. What bothered me is ruining Steve before they got to that point. He is smarter than this,
and he loves Kayla more than this. And Kayla's anger at him would not be misplaced for THOSE actions.
Okay. I don't use the word "ruin" anymore because if I'm going to watch these characters on a soap opera and it's not the 1980's, they are going to do stuff I'm not going to like and it's not going to be written well sometimes. People thought Kayla was "ruined" because she gave up on Bo, but once Bo was back and they had those amazing scenes, everything was fine. Steve's been ruined more times than I can count at this point.

Yes, the story was not written well, particularly as to Steve not trying to find Kayla before he left with Ava. Yes, that makes him look dumb and passive. But he's not ruined for me. Just damaged a bit and I'm hoping that by the time this story wraps up, some of that damage is repaired. Time will do the rest. It always does.

And I've never said Kayla shouldn't be angry at him for the things he is responsible for. That includes letting Ava get back into their lives and it definitely includes how he handles things from here on out. I'm looking forward to a time when they get to express these feelings and when both of them get to express their POV's. Where it all falls after that remains to be seen.
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As a Bope fan, I feel so "played". Used for ratings and discarded. I hate this show.
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Hugo
Feb 5 2016, 04:46 PM
[twitter=greg_meng/status/695719199784570881]
I wonder how GG is feeling.....
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Amy1970
Feb 5 2016, 05:05 PM
As a Bope fan, I feel so "played". Used for ratings and discarded. I hate this show.
Can't we wait to know the full details before feeling anything? I mean, Aiden barely gets a mention now and Bo and Bope and their history are still a part of the show. Certainly not discarded.
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Feb 5 2016, 05:05 PM
Hugo
Feb 5 2016, 04:46 PM
[twitter=greg_meng/status/695719199784570881]
I wonder how GG is feeling.....
Maybe he's happy Rafe's going to get his brain back. It more or less left town not long after DC.
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Amy1970
Feb 5 2016, 05:05 PM
As a Bope fan, I feel so "played". Used for ratings and discarded. I hate this show.
No matter what, Bo saved Hope.
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Feb 5 2016, 04:51 PM
Steve manhandled a psychologically broken Ava. I just hope she doesn't have him arrested.
I think the police give you a fair bit of leeway when you are manhandling someone who has admitted they are holding your wife hostage.
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esp13
Feb 5 2016, 05:07 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 05:05 PM
Hugo
Feb 5 2016, 04:46 PM
[twitter=greg_meng/status/695719199784570881]
I wonder how GG is feeling.....
Maybe he's happy Rafe's going to get his brain back. It more or less left town not long after DC.
Yeah, and it hasn't seemed like Rope has been something either actor has been excited about.
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Feb 5 2016, 04:32 PM
One can argue that Steve raped Ava because she doesn't have all her faculties.
Not to make light of the rape debate, but I don't think you can rape a succubus.
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Feb 5 2016, 04:57 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 04:51 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 04:42 PM
cord08
Feb 5 2016, 04:21 PM

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I don't think that's the same thing. :blink:

It's just hard for me to believe that Steve really felt coerced to have sex with Ava because of the way it was written.
It is the same thing. You're basically saying that Steve made bad decisions or stupid mistakes before he ever ended up in that room with Ava. He didn't look for Kayla, he didn't tell the police, he didn't do this or that. And all of that may be totally true. He made bad choices and bad decisions.

But when he was in that room, he knew that Kayla had been missing for at least three days without food or water (Ava told him that on Tuesday). Sure, he could have refused, but there was a pretty good chance that Kayla would have died before they got to her. His best chance, even if there was no guarantee, was to do what Ava demanded. Ava told him she had all the power and that Kayla's life was in his hands. Regardless of the bad decisions that put him in that situation, he was forced to have intercourse with Ava to save Kayla's life.

That's no different than a woman who makes bad decisions that put her in a dangerous situation. You can criticize those decisions if you want, but it doesn't make the guy who forces her to have sex (or has sex with her without her consent) any less of a rapist.
speaking for my post along similar lines (which you weren't replying to, I know)...I was blaming Steve (well the writers) for his passiveness and stupidity beforehand and not for the rape.
It was a separate issue.

I couldn't care less about what happened with Ava -it was such a stupid plot device. What bothered me is ruining Steve before they got to that point. He is smarter than this,
and he loves Kayla more than this. And Kayla's anger at him would not be misplaced for THOSE actions.
The situation with Joe alone is enough to be VERY angry about.
That's how I feel too. I don't deny it was rape but I'm so disappointed by the way Steve handled this situation.
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Feb 5 2016, 04:32 PM
One can argue that Steve raped Ava because she doesn't have all her faculties.
There are ways it could have played out and appeared that way. I was concerned about that actually. But it didn't.
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Feb 5 2016, 05:05 PM
StevelovesKayla
Feb 5 2016, 04:57 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 04:51 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 04:42 PM

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It is the same thing. You're basically saying that Steve made bad decisions or stupid mistakes before he ever ended up in that room with Ava. He didn't look for Kayla, he didn't tell the police, he didn't do this or that. And all of that may be totally true. He made bad choices and bad decisions.

But when he was in that room, he knew that Kayla had been missing for at least three days without food or water (Ava told him that on Tuesday). Sure, he could have refused, but there was a pretty good chance that Kayla would have died before they got to her. His best chance, even if there was no guarantee, was to do what Ava demanded. Ava told him she had all the power and that Kayla's life was in his hands. Regardless of the bad decisions that put him in that situation, he was forced to have intercourse with Ava to save Kayla's life.

That's no different than a woman who makes bad decisions that put her in a dangerous situation. You can criticize those decisions if you want, but it doesn't make the guy who forces her to have sex (or has sex with her without her consent) any less of a rapist.
speaking for my post along similar lines (which you weren't replying to, I know)...I was blaming Steve (well the writers) for his passiveness and stupidity beforehand and not for the rape.
It was a separate issue.

I couldn't care less about what happened with Ava -it was such a stupid plot device. What bothered me is ruining Steve before they got to that point. He is smarter than this,
and he loves Kayla more than this. And Kayla's anger at him would not be misplaced for THOSE actions.
Okay. I don't use the word "ruin" anymore because if I'm going to watch these characters on a soap opera and it's not the 1980's, they are going to do stuff I'm not going to like and it's not going to be written well sometimes. People thought Kayla was "ruined" because she gave up on Bo, but once Bo was back and they had those amazing scenes, everything was fine. Steve's been ruined more times than I can count at this point.

Yes, the story was not written well, particularly as to Steve not trying to find Kayla before he left with Ava. Yes, that makes him look dumb and passive. But he's not ruined for me. Just damaged a bit and I'm hoping that by the time this story wraps up, some of that damage is repaired. Time will do the rest. It always does.

And I've never said Kayla shouldn't be angry at him for the things he is responsible for. That includes letting Ava get back into their lives and it definitely includes how he handles things from here on out. I'm looking forward to a time when they get to express these feelings and when both of them get to express their POV's. Where it all falls after that remains to be seen.
You are right that in the long run he might not be "ruined forever" but at this present moment, that is what I am feeling about the way he's been written.
And I'm worried it will all be swept under the rug and they won't even have Kayla bothered by it (or anyone else). We will be expected to get past it.
Right now I really don't think I CAN get past it.
I truly am not sure - this is as low as I have seen any writer go with Steve. I am literally disgusted. And it's not because of Ava. If it was,
I'd be perfectly fine with just watching for the "endgame" of getting Steve and Kayla working their way back together.
I don't want to watch a weak, careless,heartless, passive, out of character Steve...
And I don't want Kayla to instantly forgive him for what he IS guilty of, because Ava raped him either.

I am really hoping Steve doesn't think a simple "I had no choice" will suffice as explanation. That will infuriate me.
He had no choice the day he was raped. But he had plenty of choices about what to do in searching for Kayla before that.


ETA: I know you agree with me on some of this, just explaining where I'm coming from
(also in my previous reply I was also addressing cord08 posts about the issue)
Edited by StevelovesKayla, Feb 5 2016, 05:38 PM.
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Thank you JCP.

If they write Kayla in character, then she is not like Hope was with Bo and Billie for years. Hope had to put up with Billie coming back in their lives off and on for over 10 years. She tried to get Bo to get Billies out of their lives for good but he wouldn't do it and when they found out about Chelsea, it was too late. I still think part of the reason Hope shacked up with Patrick was to pay Bo back for all the years she had to endure Billie in their lives. I can't see Kayla putting up with this anymore where Ava is concerned. Will someone please kill this b?

Steve is going to suffer, because Kayla is going to break the engagement and kick
him out. I just hope Josh and Beth get control soon and get rid of Ava and let Kayla have her say soon about all this.
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Okay, this made me laugh. For those not familiar, Robin was a vet actress on OLTL, and GT wrote there for a time. It should also be noted that this is typical Robin. She doesn't hold back at all.

[twitter=robinstrasser/status/695676817592623104]
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Feb 5 2016, 04:29 PM
Jason, I think you can move the date for Alma Delfina to Day of Days. Camilla told Lysie that the Hernandez mother had been cast and even used her name, but the recording was a bit unclear.
I believe she started around September/October, so that's why I listed her first airdate as March (in an earlier thread), but her last name didn't get out until the Ximena Duque article. I'll add a note that she'll debut around March.
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nm



Edited by StevelovesKayla, Feb 5 2016, 05:29 PM.
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I'm trying to remember the VI RSW pic from September. Didn't we think the magazine on the board behind them was an August edition. Maybe Ben is back soon.
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Feb 5 2016, 05:14 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 04:51 PM

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speaking for my post along similar lines (which you weren't replying to, I know)...I was blaming Steve (well the writers) for his passiveness and stupidity beforehand and not for the rape.
It was a separate issue.

I couldn't care less about what happened with Ava -it was such a stupid plot device. What bothered me is ruining Steve before they got to that point. He is smarter than this,
and he loves Kayla more than this. And Kayla's anger at him would not be misplaced for THOSE actions.
Okay. I don't use the word "ruin" anymore because if I'm going to watch these characters on a soap opera and it's not the 1980's, they are going to do stuff I'm not going to like and it's not going to be written well sometimes. People thought Kayla was "ruined" because she gave up on Bo, but once Bo was back and they had those amazing scenes, everything was fine. Steve's been ruined more times than I can count at this point.

Yes, the story was not written well, particularly as to Steve not trying to find Kayla before he left with Ava. Yes, that makes him look dumb and passive. But he's not ruined for me. Just damaged a bit and I'm hoping that by the time this story wraps up, some of that damage is repaired. Time will do the rest. It always does.

And I've never said Kayla shouldn't be angry at him for the things he is responsible for. That includes letting Ava get back into their lives and it definitely includes how he handles things from here on out. I'm looking forward to a time when they get to express these feelings and when both of them get to express their POV's. Where it all falls after that remains to be seen.
You are right that in the long run he might not be "ruined forever" but at this present moment, that is what I am feeling about the way he's been written.
And I'm worried it will all be swept under the rug and they won't even have Kayla bothered by it (or anyone else). We will be expected to get past it.
Right now I really don't think I CAN get past it.
I truly am not sure - this is as low as I have seen any writer go with Steve. I am literally disgusted. And it's not because of Ava. If it was,
I'd be perfectly fine with the "endgame" goal of getting Steve and Kayla back together. I don't want to watch a weak, passive, out of character Steve...
And I don't want Kayla to instantly forgive him for what he IS guilty of, because Ava raped him either.

ETA: I know you agree with me on some of this, just explaining where I'm coming from
(also in my previous reply I was also addressing cord08 posts about the issue)
Honestly, I think 2008 was way worse than this. In that case, we had Steve lying to Kayla for months about the threat Ava posed. He didn't tell her that Ava sabotaged the plane, that Ava threatened Kayla, or that he had been in a relationship with Ava. He lied to her and bought her potato chips and dip.

Then, when Ava mistakenly kidnapped Hope, he still didn't tell anyone, let alone Kayla. Instead, he gave himself up to Ava, had one lame attempt at an escape, did a whole "flashback" memory dinner leading straight to a full on kiss that it took Hope to bring him out of.

Then, after Kayla and Bo arrived and were captured, we got to hear Ava's story of their wedding day and got to hear Steve tell Ava that he loved her and was sorry he couldn't say goodbye. We got to hear Steve tell Angelo how worried he was about Ava and the pills. And, of course, we got to hear Steve offer to leave his wife and children to make a baby with Ava. It wasn't Ava who forced him into that bed in 2008, it was Steve offering himself to her.

Then, after all of that, we got to see Steve sit beside Ava's bedside and cry over her. Meanwhile his wife got to try and heal her. I'm sorry, but in my opinion, Dena took Steve way lower in 2008 than anything that happened this week, or this month.

And to top it all off, Steve and Kayla didn't get to talk about it for three months. But, guess what, they survived that travesty. They weren't ruined (at least for most people). They'll survive this too, I imagine. And I have reason to hope that the fallout/aftermath will be much better than what happened in 2008.
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