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Friday, February 5th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 4 2016, 10:03 PM (14,433 Views)
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Rosebud
Feb 5 2016, 02:23 PM
Ken Adams
Feb 5 2016, 02:17 PM
Kinay
Feb 5 2016, 01:50 PM
Rafe as best man really? Does Chad have no friends?
I hope they are not trying to make Rafe the new Daniel, you know the one that was everywhere in everyone else's story.

The obvious reason is so that Chad would feel shock and betrayed when he finds out his best man Rafe helped Hope hide the fact that she killed his dad. Sounds more like plot driven.
It just proves Rafe has no personality. They can fit him into any story at any time. He's an all-purpose plot device. Need a best man? Just call Rafe. Need an accomplice for your murder plot? Just call Rafe. Need someone to take care of your wife after you croak? Just call Rafe.
Rafe is known to be the type with lots of friends, Chad not so much. Even Bo considered him a good enough friend to take care of Hope.
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Feb 5 2016, 12:53 PM
Positive signs of transition from Dena? People are leaving their bubbles. Chad and Abby at Hope's house. Theresa bringing over the dress and talking about Jen. Roman assigning JJ and Shawn to trail Deimos and talking about him being on Interpol's watch list.

There may be a light at the end of the tunnel after all.
Yeah, today was definitely a MAJOR step in the right direction.

This week, little by little, has had a bit more Griffith-like material in each episode and, today, felt 75% like Griffith. The episode had his feel to it for the first time since November. The Rafe/Hope stuff still felt like Higley and I do expect a bit more of her stuff next week but this week definitely is showing signs of being in a transition and near the end of her run.

We had characters interacting outside of bubbles and moving story. The Deimos story is turning into a good one with multiple characters involved there. They brought Shawn and JJ in on this today which was BRILLIANT IMO because you have Belle and Philip already tied in and maybe Belle is about to involve John as well.

Then, you have Kate and maybe even Eduardo, who may start to look into Deimos and maybe try to help her if she gets in too deep. That whole Kate/Eduardo scene was so NOT a Higley scene. It focused on Kate's mindset and gave her character a direction. We got some insight into her and where she stands with Eduardo and where she is going.

Then, there is the obvious shift in the Basic Black story and even though it still reeked of Higley, I am finding myself more able to tolerate it a bit because the mystery woman deal has me hoping for a big swerve that could be interesting.

And I LOVED high as hell Jennifer. MR was great there and Abigail looked amazing in her dress. Once again, there were signs of something being set up with Abigail. Everything with Chabby this week has been very Griffith-like. The scenes were great today and I'm starting to think we may be headed for a combination of the Chabby wedding falling apart combined with the return of Ben causing Abigail to just completely snap. I'm seeing signs that she's internalizing everything and simply putting things aside and trying to move on but when everything falls apart and Ben returns, that likely will be the last straw.

Good episode today. Hopefully, one more week of anything Dena and the show can truly rebuild itself. It's showing signs but it can't really do that until Dena's completely gone.

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Feb 5 2016, 02:24 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 02:14 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 02:09 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 01:05 PM
Chad remembers he knows Rafe today. It's been months. That was totally a Josh thing between them in the fall. Maybe he's wrapping up this sucky Hope story. I just hope they don't ruin the wedding while they're exposing Hope and Rafe.
I just think it's creepy that Rafe agreed to be Chad's best man, knowing that he helped cover up Stefano's murder.
Yeah, and the fact that Rafe refused to help find Abby at the end of the kidnapping bit.

But...I like the Chad/Rafe friendship, so I'll let it slide. (I just hate that this is probably going to end with the Steffy reveal). :rolleyes:
There's a Chad/Rafe friendship? The guy that cost Rafe his job on the police force so he could have his girlfriend. Did we ever see Rafe agree to be Chad's best man?
I'm totally lost on this. Did Chad ask Rafe to be his best man on today's show? If he did I missed it. And I don't remember any Rafe/Chad friendship either.
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Feb 5 2016, 02:23 PM
Ken Adams
Feb 5 2016, 02:17 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 01:50 PM
Rafe as best man really? Does Chad have no friends?
I hope they are not trying to make Rafe the new Daniel, you know the one that was everywhere in everyone else's story.

The obvious reason is so that Chad would feel shock and betrayed when he finds out his best man Rafe helped Hope hide the fact that she killed his dad. Sounds more like plot driven.
It just proves Rafe has no personality. They can fit him into any story at any time. He's an all-purpose plot device. Need a best man? Just call Rafe. Need an accomplice for your murder plot? Just call Rafe. Need someone to take care of your wife after you croak? Just call Rafe.
Lol. I can actually hear that pitch in a commercial somewhere.
Edited by Ken Adams, Feb 5 2016, 04:12 PM.
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Feb 5 2016, 02:14 PM
I'm really bed with music. What was that Tina Turner song they played? Are they trying to give a clue about the time period the dream takes place in? I'll laugh if it was the early 90s, like the year Brady was born :blulaugh:
Haven't watched yet but I bet it's not What's Love Gotta do With It. These writers don't believe in love.
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JJ looks like a kid playing dress up in his cop uniform... LOL

LOL at high Jen. I don't think her smile could have been bigger if she tried. :blulaugh:

Andre and his hat make me laugh. I did LOL when he played Stefano's opera music on the phone for Hope. Andre is a nut.

DJ Designs does sound better, but it is still named after the douche.

For the heck of it I counted how many times the name Daniel was spoken today. I counted 10, but I may have missed a few. :blulaugh:



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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.

cord08
Feb 5 2016, 02:19 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 01:35 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 01:27 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 01:03 PM

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I am just AMAZED that no one at any point in time stepped up and said these stories were BAD and let them be written and taped. After the mess that TomSell left this show in why would they not have been paying more attention? They have literally squandered all the good will and advertising from the 50th Anniversary and Book Tour. Even the stuff that was better in the Autumn wasn't THAT MUCH BETTER - but it was better than TomSell's Death Throes. And some of it was done nicely - the J&M reunion, bringing back Doug & Julie, Steve & Kayla BEFORE Ava showed up, most of the SK storyline (although the ending of that story line was a bust). The rest of it was haphazard and choppy.

I'm glad they redeemed Hope and Bo - I would have done it differently since it was going to be a short storyline but that's neither here nor there. Now with Dena it's nonstop Idiot Hope and all the great writing for Rafe during the SK storyline is gone and I just want to scream everytime he sniffs after Hope's ass and don't get me started on the whole "Killing Stefano" thing.

Whatever idiot in charge said "let's go all in with Chabby" when they knew that KM was looking to leave a year ago WITHOUT building another couple (or two) up at the same time (Ericole would have been the prime choice) also needs to be shit-canned. Yes, Chabby is enormously popular, but TPTB basically "shot their whole wad" on one couple and now that KM is leaving there is no other young couple that's been built up (no Dicole and Thrady do NOT count and the JJ/Gabi thing is moving so slow with no direction it does not count either). Whether they recast Abby (which makes sense) or not (which doesn't unless they are going to rest the character before recasting) - they are going to take a big hit when KM leaves because they spent so much time ONLY building up Abby's story when they should have been building other couples at the same time in B and C storylines.

It's like NONE of the people in charge have any sort of idea about how to create compelling television and they are just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

I'm glad it appears that a renewal is a done deal (BAD HARVEST) but going forward someone needs to get a bloody clue even if they have to buy one.

Whew, rant over. Sorry about that -
Sadly, until Corday steps down and is replaced by someone that actually cares about the genre, this show isn't going to ever be great again.
As much as I dislike some of Corday's decision making, I think he's the only reason the show's still around. If Corday had sold it to the network, for instance, it would have been cancelled years ago.
Oh, I definitely agree with that. But he's a moron and has no idea what to do with Days, never really has. Any cohesiveness (and it wasn't much) they started building after TomSell left has been blown out of the water since December. I swear I'd ALMOST rather have the bloody elephant story back (and you all know how I hated THAT) than this stupid Hope/Rafe or Steve/Kayla/Ava story (and everyone else is just wandering around Salem as plot points). I hope to heavens this is all just Dena and that it will soon be over... :shithitfan:
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Feb 5 2016, 02:09 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 01:05 PM
Chad remembers he knows Rafe today. It's been months. That was totally a Josh thing between them in the fall. Maybe he's wrapping up this sucky Hope story. I just hope they don't ruin the wedding while they're exposing Hope and Rafe.
I just think it's creepy that Rafe agreed to be Chad's best man, knowing that he helped cover up Stefano's murder.
I'm thinking Chad may have his suspicions about what Hope and Rafe did but I think he wants to pass Andre off as a complete nut case to get rid of him and take back his "legacy".
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Feb 5 2016, 01:27 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 01:03 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 12:57 PM
The Twitter PBP makes today sound horrid. Great Dread Cthulhu, why didn't someone step in and stop Dena before it got this bad? Considering how far ahead they tape, I would have cut every one of these stories, skipped ahead to a good starting point, put a header up that said "Three Months Later" with a voiceover saying so-and-so has joined the show as such-and-such. This show has become unwatchable at this point.

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Yeah, I hate to agree, but... The small bursting of some "bubbles" just isn't enough for me. The stories suck, IMO.
I am just AMAZED that no one at any point in time stepped up and said these stories were BAD and let them be written and taped. After the mess that TomSell left this show in why would they not have been paying more attention? They have literally squandered all the good will and advertising from the 50th Anniversary and Book Tour. Even the stuff that was better in the Autumn wasn't THAT MUCH BETTER - but it was better than TomSell's Death Throes. And some of it was done nicely - the J&M reunion, bringing back Doug & Julie, Steve & Kayla BEFORE Ava showed up, most of the SK storyline (although the ending of that story line was a bust). The rest of it was haphazard and choppy.

I'm glad they redeemed Hope and Bo - I would have done it differently since it was going to be a short storyline but that's neither here nor there. Now with Dena it's nonstop Idiot Hope and all the great writing for Rafe during the SK storyline is gone and I just want to scream everytime he sniffs after Hope's ass and don't get me started on the whole "Killing Stefano" thing.

Whatever idiot in charge said "let's go all in with Chabby" when they knew that KM was looking to leave a year ago WITHOUT building another couple (or two) up at the same time (Ericole would have been the prime choice) also needs to be shit-canned. Yes, Chabby is enormously popular, but TPTB basically "shot their whole wad" on one couple and now that KM is leaving there is no other young couple that's been built up (no Dicole and Thrady do NOT count and the JJ/Gabi thing is moving so slow with no direction it does not count either). Whether they recast Abby (which makes sense) or not (which doesn't unless they are going to rest the character before recasting) - they are going to take a big hit when KM leaves because they spent so much time ONLY building up Abby's story when they should have been building other couples at the same time in B and C storylines.

It's like NONE of the people in charge have any sort of idea about how to create compelling television and they are just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.

I'm glad it appears that a renewal is a done deal (BAD HARVEST) but going forward someone needs to get a bloody clue even if they have to buy one.

Whew, rant over. Sorry about that -
RE no one saying the stories were bad:

I do think it's possible that some of the actors started speak up about the shit they're/were getting. I mean, we know some of them have done that in the past. However, I don't think unhappy actors alone would be enough to get a writer tossed/stories completely changed. (Not unless they all banded together and stormed Corday and Meng's offices -- highly unlikely).

I'm guessing Higley's firing was probably a combination of her being hostile and difficult to work with AND actor complaints.

But generally, yeah. They should have never let it get this far. Hell, Higley should never have been re-hired.

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Feb 5 2016, 02:24 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 02:09 PM
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Feb 5 2016, 01:05 PM
Chad remembers he knows Rafe today. It's been months. That was totally a Josh thing between them in the fall. Maybe he's wrapping up this sucky Hope story. I just hope they don't ruin the wedding while they're exposing Hope and Rafe.
I just think it's creepy that Rafe agreed to be Chad's best man, knowing that he helped cover up Stefano's murder.
Yeah, and the fact that Rafe refused to help find Abby at the end of the kidnapping bit.

But...I like the Chad/Rafe friendship, so I'll let it slide. (I just hate that this is probably going to end with the Steffy reveal). :rolleyes:
There's a Chad/Rafe friendship? The guy that cost Rafe his job on the police force so he could have his girlfriend. Did we ever see Rafe agree to be Chad's best man?
"Friendship" may be too strong of a word. However, they did start to build a bond during the SK story since Rafe was initially the only person (besides Abby) that thought Chad was innocent.
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Yeah, and the fact that Rafe refused to help find Abby at the end of the kidnapping bit.

But...I like the Chad/Rafe friendship, so I'll let it slide. (I just hate that this is probably going to end with the Steffy reveal). :rolleyes:
There's a Chad/Rafe friendship? The guy that cost Rafe his job on the police force so he could have his girlfriend. Did we ever see Rafe agree to be Chad's best man?
I'm totally lost on this. Did Chad ask Rafe to be his best man on today's show? If he did I missed it. And I don't remember any Rafe/Chad friendship either.
It didn't actually show Chad asking Rafe. He told Abby that he asked Rafe off screen and that he agreed. He was suppose to ask Theo but changed his mind because he didn't want Theo to feel too much pressure and since Rafe was the only guy to believe his innocence, he decided to ask him.
Edited by Ken Adams, Feb 5 2016, 03:03 PM.
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Yeah, and the fact that Rafe refused to help find Abby at the end of the kidnapping bit.

But...I like the Chad/Rafe friendship, so I'll let it slide. (I just hate that this is probably going to end with the Steffy reveal). :rolleyes:
There's a Chad/Rafe friendship? The guy that cost Rafe his job on the police force so he could have his girlfriend. Did we ever see Rafe agree to be Chad's best man?
"Friendship" may be too strong of a word. However, they did start to build a bond during the SK story since Rafe was initially the only person (besides Abby) that thought Chad was innocent.
Chad did say that was one of the reasons he asked Rafe to be his best man. Off screen....
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Yeah, and the fact that Rafe refused to help find Abby at the end of the kidnapping bit.

But...I like the Chad/Rafe friendship, so I'll let it slide. (I just hate that this is probably going to end with the Steffy reveal). :rolleyes:
There's a Chad/Rafe friendship? The guy that cost Rafe his job on the police force so he could have his girlfriend. Did we ever see Rafe agree to be Chad's best man?
"Friendship" may be too strong of a word. However, they did start to build a bond during the SK story since Rafe was initially the only person (besides Abby) that thought Chad was innocent.
OH yea there was that... Only Rafe didn't really do anything to actually help Chad LOL
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Feb 5 2016, 02:16 PM
I love my Chabby, but I don't want their wedding to go off without a hitch. Married couples get boring. I want a big sweeps wedding that either gets interupted by Andre or Ben...Days needs to bring it for the last part of sweeps.
I think this is exactly what we are headed for in upcoming weeks. :OhMy:
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Rafe as best man really? Does Chad have no friends?
I hope they are not trying to make Rafe the new Daniel, you know the one that was everywhere in everyone else's story.

The obvious reason is so that Chad would feel shock and betrayed when he finds out his best man Rafe helped Hope hide the fact that she killed his dad. Sounds more like plot driven.
It just proves Rafe has no personality. They can fit him into any story at any time. He's an all-purpose plot device. Need a best man? Just call Rafe. Need an accomplice for your murder plot? Just call Rafe. Need someone to take care of your wife after you croak? Just call Rafe.
Rafe was tolerable when he was in COP mode. Working, trying to solve whatever case...Galen - IMO - was doing quite well with that material. But since Higley started writing him with googly eyes for Hope, he's almost insufferable.
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There's a Chad/Rafe friendship? The guy that cost Rafe his job on the police force so he could have his girlfriend. Did we ever see Rafe agree to be Chad's best man?
"Friendship" may be too strong of a word. However, they did start to build a bond during the SK story since Rafe was initially the only person (besides Abby) that thought Chad was innocent.
Chad did say that was one of the reasons he asked Rafe to be his best man. Off screen....
I really wish Sonny could be the best man. In real life he would come home for that.
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Feb 5 2016, 02:44 PM
It didn't actually show Chad asking Rafe. He told Abby that he asked Rafe on screen and that he agreed. He was suppose to ask Theo but changed his mind because he didn't want Theo to feel too much pressure and since Rafe was the only guy to believe his innocence, he decide to ask him.
Thank you! I totally missed that.
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The worst part is that Chad actually doesn't have any friends. With Will and Sonny gone, who does he have? It's indicative of the lack of friendships on this show. Chad has Abby. And tends to go to Marlena when he needs help. And Rafe is the closest thing he has to a friend.

Speaking of which, it would be cool if Chad couldn't deal with this Stefano stuff anymore on his own and went and told Marlena Andre's theory. It'd be a great way for them to find out. Unfortunately I think everyone finds out at Chad and Abby's wedding. Too many people think Stefano fled the country now.

When was that scene with all the vets that James Reynolds' wife talked about? September or so? I think she said she watched the scene with JT and it was 7 vets.
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Yeah, and the fact that Rafe refused to help find Abby at the end of the kidnapping bit.

But...I like the Chad/Rafe friendship, so I'll let it slide. (I just hate that this is probably going to end with the Steffy reveal). :rolleyes:
There's a Chad/Rafe friendship? The guy that cost Rafe his job on the police force so he could have his girlfriend. Did we ever see Rafe agree to be Chad's best man?
"Friendship" may be too strong of a word. However, they did start to build a bond during the SK story since Rafe was initially the only person (besides Abby) that thought Chad was innocent.
I don't think Rafe believed Chad was innocent because he liked the guy or because he wanted to become buddies. He believed him because his own instincts told him Chad was obviously being framed.
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Feb 5 2016, 02:51 PM
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It didn't actually show Chad asking Rafe. He told Abby that he asked Rafe on screen and that he agreed. He was suppose to ask Theo but changed his mind because he didn't want Theo to feel too much pressure and since Rafe was the only guy to believe his innocence, he decide to ask him.
Thank you! I totally missed that.
No problem and nope you didn't missed it, they did it in the world of off screen. ;)
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