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Spoilers for the Week of February 15; Updated 2/8
Topic Started: Feb 5 2016, 09:48 PM (37,697 Views)
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lysie
Feb 8 2016, 09:36 AM
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Feb 8 2016, 07:53 AM
daysyrghfan
Feb 8 2016, 07:46 AM
I think it's both for Theresa and I think for Nicole she wants to learn about Daniel and feel closer to him. I think what they find about Daniel isn't gonna be anything good. Is this the last set of spoilers for Denas reign of terror?
I thought Dena's last day was the 12th? I don't know.......
I'm clearly wasting my time, but there's no use in counting on Dena having a last day. That's not how head writing works. Even once Beth Milstein's name appears. Hopefully there will be an obvious change like there was in December, but that's not a given.
I'm aware of that but it's been mentioned several times that the V day epi sounds like all Dena and that we should be seeing a bigger shift after that. We've already been seeing changes the past week. I don't expect the stories to switch from one to the other in one day.
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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.

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Feb 8 2016, 11:04 AM
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I'm clearly wasting my time, but there's no use in counting on Dena having a last day. That's not how head writing works. Even once Beth Milstein's name appears. Hopefully there will be an obvious change like there was in December, but that's not a given.
I'm aware of that but it's been mentioned several times that the V day epi sounds like all Dena and that we should be seeing a bigger shift after that. We've already been seeing changes the past week. I don't expect the stories to switch from one to the other in one day.
That does scream Higley. I'm hoping we see more movements away from her this week. Thursday's episode with the S&K and J&M conversations are something I'm hoping shows more of the change.
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I'm clearly wasting my time, but there's no use in counting on Dena having a last day. That's not how head writing works. Even once Beth Milstein's name appears. Hopefully there will be an obvious change like there was in December, but that's not a given.
I'm aware of that but it's been mentioned several times that the V day epi sounds like all Dena and that we should be seeing a bigger shift after that. We've already been seeing changes the past week. I don't expect the stories to switch from one to the other in one day.
I kinda expect a quick change if they really decided to write separately - 3 months Griffith, 3 months Higley, 3 months Griffith etc. It's not a traditional regime change, as a team at least they have to know what the other co-HW is writing.
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I'm clearly wasting my time, but there's no use in counting on Dena having a last day. That's not how head writing works. Even once Beth Milstein's name appears. Hopefully there will be an obvious change like there was in December, but that's not a given.
I'm aware of that but it's been mentioned several times that the V day epi sounds like all Dena and that we should be seeing a bigger shift after that. We've already been seeing changes the past week. I don't expect the stories to switch from one to the other in one day.
I just think the expectations are way off. There's a chance things could improve that quickly, but I'm not so sure it's likely. Her "last day" most likely will not actually be her last day.
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I have to add I've lost all interest in the Hope Rafe Andre story. I barely gloss over the spoilers for that. Can it end soon? I just want them exposed at this point.
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Too much to hope Theresa has time to see her mom while she's in LA? #wishfulthinking
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Feb 8 2016, 11:27 AM
I have to add I've lost all interest in the Hope Rafe Andre story. I barely gloss over the spoilers for that. Can it end soon? I just want them exposed at this point.
I fast forward the second I see anything involving that story and don't bother with spoilers either. It will probably drag on to May. :drunk:
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Feb 8 2016, 06:51 AM


I like VI, but the Deimos story is not realistic to me because I just don't buy he is really Victor's brother. They should have just brought him on as a completely unconnected character.

I can buy it. VI and JA's actual ages are 56 and 82 respectively. Victor said that he was 20 (I think) when Deimos was born. Since VI looks damn good for his age, if we put Deimos' age at mid-50s, that puts Victor in his mid-70s. Yes, technically, they could be father and son but there are plenty of families out there with a huge age gap in siblings.
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Feb 8 2016, 12:06 PM
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Feb 8 2016, 06:51 AM


I like VI, but the Deimos story is not realistic to me because I just don't buy he is really Victor's brother. They should have just brought him on as a completely unconnected character.

I can buy it. VI and JA's actual ages are 56 and 82 respectively. Victor said that he was 20 (I think) when Deimos was born. Since VI looks damn good for his age, if we put Deimos' age at mid-50s, that puts Victor in his mid-70s. Yes, technically, they could be father and son but there are plenty of families out there with a huge age gap in siblings.
Okay, it's not totally unreasonable that they would be brothers. I do think it's unlikely that Deimos would have had an affair with Victor's fiance who even if we assume Deimos did at the age of 18 would put Victor at 38. The problem with this is that Victor had to have time to seduce and impregnate Caroline AND Isabella's mother. I'm not buying it. There was a better way to bring on VI and Deimos.
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lysie
Feb 8 2016, 11:18 AM
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I'm aware of that but it's been mentioned several times that the V day epi sounds like all Dena and that we should be seeing a bigger shift after that. We've already been seeing changes the past week. I don't expect the stories to switch from one to the other in one day.
I just think the expectations are way off. There's a chance things could improve that quickly, but I'm not so sure it's likely. Her "last day" most likely will not actually be her last day.
Your right, '

I think we will get what we got in late November/early December only the opposite. If you look back at that time period, there was still enough Griffith influence where the show didn't go totally off the rails but more and more of Higley's influence came up by the day so that by the time we reached Christmas, it felt like it was mostly her. Then, in January, cut scenes were on the increase but what we did get still felt like mostly her right up until about a week ago where we slowly started getting more of Griffith influencing things and it's increased more and more each day. I expect that same thing to happen this week and then by the end of this month I expect us to be mostly dealing with mostly Griffith/Milstein stuff with very little of Higley. It's going to be gradual because they can't just throw out everything. What has happened will be used to further whatever is coming, just like Higley used aspects of what had happened to further her garbage.

I don't think it can be expected that it will be like a light switch where as soon as you hit the switch, Higley's stuff is gone. It pretty much has to be "burned off" in a sense. Just like Griffith's influence slowly faded a few months ago as Higley's become more and more prominent, the same will happen here with Higley's influence fading and Griffith and Milstein's influence becoming more prominent.
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Feb 8 2016, 02:17 PM
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I just think the expectations are way off. There's a chance things could improve that quickly, but I'm not so sure it's likely. Her "last day" most likely will not actually be her last day.
Your right, '

I think we will get what we got in late November/early December only the opposite. If you look back at that time period, there was still enough Griffith influence where the show didn't go totally off the rails but more and more of Higley's influence came up by the day so that by the time we reached Christmas, it felt like it was mostly her. Then, in January, cut scenes were on the increase but what we did get still felt like mostly her right up until about a week ago where we slowly started getting more of Griffith influencing things and it's increased more and more each day. I expect that same thing to happen this week and then by the end of this month I expect us to be mostly dealing with mostly Griffith/Milstein stuff with very little of Higley. It's going to be gradual because they can't just throw out everything. What has happened will be used to further whatever is coming, just like Higley used aspects of what had happened to further her garbage.

I don't think it can be expected that it will be like a light switch where as soon as you hit the switch, Higley's stuff is gone. It pretty much has to be "burned off" in a sense. Just like Griffith's influence slowly faded a few months ago as Higley's become more and more prominent, the same will happen here with Higley's influence fading and Griffith and Milstein's influence becoming more prominent.
I agree with virtually all of this except I don't think Higley used a great deal of what Griffith wrote to further her garbage. Instead of using any fallout from that serial killer, she pivoted to brainwashing. It made no sense. She obviously used Bo's death to drive Hope mad, but even that felt like a stretch at times. The insertion of Ava in the Steve/Kayla story had virtually no build up and did nothing to further the mess of Steve's absence that they were working through before December.

Griffith and Milstein have no choice but to sort through her mess now. However, Higley pretty much changed the show by playing out zero fallout before, so it's not as though the same thing can't be done with some of these stories. Not saying that I want that necessarily, but some of these stories are so whacked, I wouldn't blame them if they did.
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Feb 8 2016, 02:31 PM
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Feb 8 2016, 02:17 PM
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Feb 8 2016, 11:18 AM

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Your right, '

I think we will get what we got in late November/early December only the opposite. If you look back at that time period, there was still enough Griffith influence where the show didn't go totally off the rails but more and more of Higley's influence came up by the day so that by the time we reached Christmas, it felt like it was mostly her. Then, in January, cut scenes were on the increase but what we did get still felt like mostly her right up until about a week ago where we slowly started getting more of Griffith influencing things and it's increased more and more each day. I expect that same thing to happen this week and then by the end of this month I expect us to be mostly dealing with mostly Griffith/Milstein stuff with very little of Higley. It's going to be gradual because they can't just throw out everything. What has happened will be used to further whatever is coming, just like Higley used aspects of what had happened to further her garbage.

I don't think it can be expected that it will be like a light switch where as soon as you hit the switch, Higley's stuff is gone. It pretty much has to be "burned off" in a sense. Just like Griffith's influence slowly faded a few months ago as Higley's become more and more prominent, the same will happen here with Higley's influence fading and Griffith and Milstein's influence becoming more prominent.
I agree with virtually all of this except I don't think Higley used a great deal of what Griffith wrote to further her garbage. Instead of using any fallout from that serial killer, she pivoted to brainwashing. It made no sense. She obviously used Bo's death to drive Hope mad, but even that felt like a stretch at times. The insertion of Ava in the Steve/Kayla story had virtually no build up and did nothing to further the mess of Steve's absence that they were working through before December.

Griffith and Milstein have no choice but to sort through her mess now. However, Higley pretty much changed the show by playing out zero fallout before, so it's not as though the same thing can't be done with some of these stories. Not saying that I want that necessarily, but some of these stories are so whacked, I wouldn't blame them if they did.
Oh, I agree. Maybe I should've said she used "aspects" of what came before because she did. Your right that she pretty much shifted gears abruptly and never looked back and that is typical of her. That always happened from 2009-2011 too whenever she seemed to take back control from Tomsell. The stories would change/end with no fallout.
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Actually, to me, I don't understand why Chad & Abby were even on today. Their "to elope or not to elope", just did not seem to go with everything else. Maybe that was just me.
Plus, Chad, in trying to convince Abby, said something about them living in the DiMera place........said something to the effect that he knows he has been asking her to make a lot of compromises. But it only seems he is asking her constantly to do something that he wants, his way, and talking until she agrees to it. That is not compromise. That is wanting everything the way done the way he wants it.
I do love the couple, but don't like this aspect.
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Feb 8 2016, 05:50 PM
Actually, to me, I don't understand why Chad & Abby were even on today. Their "to elope or not to elope", just did not seem to go with everything else. Maybe that was just me.
Plus, Chad, in trying to convince Abby, said something about them living in the DiMera place........said something to the effect that he knows he has been asking her to make a lot of compromises. But it only seems he is asking her constantly to do something that he wants, his way, and talking until she agrees to it. That is not compromise. That is wanting everything the way done the way he wants it.
I do love the couple, but don't like this aspect.
I agree Chad has pressured her a little too much the last couple of weeks. It wasn't that long ago at Club TBD he was insisting that her family be at their wedding and now he wants to elope. I think the Andre/Hope debacle has thrown him off in his thinking.
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Nana or someone who remembers, where is that pic of Stvee Kayal and Ava that looked like it had Theresa, Marlena and Tate in the background at the townhouse? Maybe she leaves the baby with them while she follows Brady to California
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Feb 8 2016, 08:13 PM
Nana or someone who remembers, where is that pic of Stvee Kayal and Ava that looked like it had Theresa, Marlena and Tate in the background at the townhouse? Maybe she leaves the baby with them while she follows Brady to California
Anything is better than leaving it with Victor and Maggie!! I have keep reminding myself that Tate is J/M's grandson lol.
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Feb 8 2016, 08:32 PM
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Nana or someone who remembers, where is that pic of Stvee Kayal and Ava that looked like it had Theresa, Marlena and Tate in the background at the townhouse? Maybe she leaves the baby with them while she follows Brady to California
Anything is better than leaving it with Victor and Maggie!! I have keep reminding myself that Tate is J/M's grandson lol.
Nobody sees that baby!
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Feb 8 2016, 08:13 PM
Nana or someone who remembers, where is that pic of Stvee Kayal and Ava that looked like it had Theresa, Marlena and Tate in the background at the townhouse? Maybe she leaves the baby with them while she follows Brady to California
This one? https://www.instagram.com/p/BAdQN_Th9Uv/?taken-by=tamarabraun
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Feb 8 2016, 08:40 PM
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Feb 8 2016, 08:13 PM
Nana or someone who remembers, where is that pic of Stvee Kayal and Ava that looked like it had Theresa, Marlena and Tate in the background at the townhouse? Maybe she leaves the baby with them while she follows Brady to California
This one? https://www.instagram.com/p/BAdQN_Th9Uv/?taken-by=tamarabraun
That's it, thank you!
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