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Spoilers for the Week of February 15; Updated 2/8
Topic Started: Feb 5 2016, 09:48 PM (37,689 Views)
DiMera87
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Lori
Feb 12 2016, 07:55 AM
DiMera87
Feb 12 2016, 07:52 AM
I don't want to SEE Ciara (or any character) being raped but I don't count it as a strike against the show. It's a part of soap history, television history, and unfortunately real life. There are so many beats to hit that I worry about the aftermath but I'm not faulting the show for having it happen. It's a super slippery slope. I don't think anyone should be putting this into the Higley box of shit though, I believe it to be 100% Josh Griffith writing this one, if it happens.

Agree that it's part of soap history but it's too soon after Ava's rape of Steve and it's too damn dark. And she better not get pregnant.
We all know it was rape, but the show and I'm pretty sure a massive chunk of the viewers don't consider that to be rape. It's stupid but you can't fix stupid. Regardless, the show is really dark.
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Bellarke <3

DiMera87
Feb 12 2016, 07:52 AM
I don't want to SEE Ciara (or any character) being raped but I don't count it as a strike against the show. It's a part of soap history, television history, and unfortunately real life. There are so many beats to hit that I worry about the aftermath but I'm not faulting the show for having it happen. It's a super slippery slope. I don't think anyone should be putting this into the Higley box of shit though, I believe it to be 100% Josh Griffith writing this one, if it happens.

Two rapes in one month, though? Overkill. Not to mention, VJ's limited acting skills. :-/
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DiMera87
Feb 12 2016, 07:58 AM
Lori
Feb 12 2016, 07:55 AM
DiMera87
Feb 12 2016, 07:52 AM
I don't want to SEE Ciara (or any character) being raped but I don't count it as a strike against the show. It's a part of soap history, television history, and unfortunately real life. There are so many beats to hit that I worry about the aftermath but I'm not faulting the show for having it happen. It's a super slippery slope. I don't think anyone should be putting this into the Higley box of shit though, I believe it to be 100% Josh Griffith writing this one, if it happens.

Agree that it's part of soap history but it's too soon after Ava's rape of Steve and it's too damn dark. And she better not get pregnant.
We all know it was rape, but the show and I'm pretty sure a massive chunk of the viewers don't consider that to be rape. It's stupid but you can't fix stupid. Regardless, the show is really dark.
True.
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The issue for me with the Ciara rape so soon after the Steve Ava stuff is that it's going to show the glaringly different ways the show treats it. They're already using the word betrayal with the Steve situation. And now you'll have a teenage rape situation as a constrast and I'm sure it'll be a big one.
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I don't expect the show to veer away from rape. I'm outraged because the show has destroyed every damn character I care about! I liked Aiden, Chase, Eric (and yes to a degree even though he's coming off sympathetic these hack writers have destroyed who he was at his core), Nicole (because this isn't the Nicole I know and love). You can add Belle to that list because I one time I liked her. And Phillip because JPL isn't portraying Phillip the way he should be.
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Lovejm
Feb 12 2016, 09:07 AM
The issue for me with the Ciara rape so soon after the Steve Ava stuff is that it's going to show the glaringly different ways the show treats it. They're already using the word betrayal with the Steve situation. And now you'll have a teenage rape situation as a constrast and I'm sure it'll be a big one.
They'll only use rape re Steve/Ava if the audience starts using it (but they're 6 months ahead, so the story will be over in 6 months and they probably will never address it as a rape). I don't think they were planning to use "rape" in Eric/Kristen case either. Their first terms were "seduced", "seduction" etc.
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The exact wording from voldemort (issue on newsstands Jan 29)
- in the Feb sweeps item:

"Ciara is torn between Theo and Chase, but a traumatic incident changes everything."

The first part of the sweeps spoiler sentence:
It would seem the word "torn" meant that Ciara is friends with both boys, and then learns one boy has bullied the other -- and she tried to get Chase to apologize to Theo, and she wants to keep her friendship with both boys -- and then she also feels conflicted after learning both boys have crushes on her, when she was focused on friendship.
She's not torn about herself being romantically interested in both boys. It's the reverse.
But mostly it's all the emotions about having one friend/stepbrother who just lost his dad, and the other dealing with bullying, and she wants to be there for both of them, but it's overwhelming.

The second part of the sweeps spoiler sentence:
"A traumatic incident changes everything".
Now that it was spoiled that Chase rapes Ciara, the wording "traumatic incident" makes sense.
Edited by nananana7, Feb 12 2016, 11:03 AM.
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thepadange
Feb 12 2016, 09:19 AM
Lovejm
Feb 12 2016, 09:07 AM
The issue for me with the Ciara rape so soon after the Steve Ava stuff is that it's going to show the glaringly different ways the show treats it. They're already using the word betrayal with the Steve situation. And now you'll have a teenage rape situation as a constrast and I'm sure it'll be a big one.
They'll only use rape re Steve/Ava if the audience starts using it (but they're 6 months ahead, so the story will be over in 6 months and they probably will never address it as a rape). I don't think they were planning to use "rape" in Eric/Kristen case either. Their first terms were "seduced", "seduction" etc.
I assume you are talking about before the wedding reveal, maybe when Kristen was talking about what she did to Eric? I don't know. I think they planned on calling it rape because of the October rape accusation between Eric and Nicole. Would they have known by then that the audience reaction? I don't think they would have because that would only be about 4 months and they were still pretty far ahead by that time. I am glad though that whether they planned on calling it rape or not it was called rape. There were some pretty good scenes that came from that even up to the summer 2014 scenes when Kristen returned.
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Lovejm
Feb 12 2016, 09:07 AM
The issue for me with the Ciara rape so soon after the Steve Ava stuff is that it's going to show the glaringly different ways the show treats it. They're already using the word betrayal with the Steve situation. And now you'll have a teenage rape situation as a constrast and I'm sure it'll be a big one.
I just realized that they're going to have Steve struggling to tell Kayla about Ava likely on the same day that Chase might rape Ciara. So, who knows? Maybe they are going to draw some parallels. I'm not holding my breath, but the timing is interesting.
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nananana7
Feb 12 2016, 11:02 AM
The exact wording from voldemort (issue on newsstands Jan 29)
- in the Feb sweeps item:

"Ciara is torn between Theo and Chase, but a traumatic incident changes everything."

The first part of the sweeps spoiler sentence:
It would seem the word "torn" meant that Ciara is friends with both boys, and then learns one boy has bullied the other -- and she tried to get Chase to apologize to Theo, and she wants to keep her friendship with both boys -- and then she also feels conflicted after learning both boys have crushes on her, when she was focused on friendship.
She's not torn about herself being romantically interested in both boys. It's the reverse.
But mostly it's all the emotions about having one friend/stepbrother who just lost his dad, and the other dealing with bullying, and she wants to be there for both of them, but it's overwhelming.

The second part of the sweeps spoiler sentence:
"A traumatic incident changes everything".
Now that it was spoiled that Chase rapes Ciara, the wording "traumatic incident" makes sense.
OMG!! I just realize Ciara was going to be raped, hadn't read the spoiler. I know what mean for the Ciara/Chase relationship, but what will it mean for Ciara/Theo relationship. I just hope Ciara reveal what happens and not try to hide it.
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I'm hoping that they edit out the "rape" part of the episode. I don't care if they keep the implication that it happened, I just have no interest in seeing the actual act occur on screen.

I wonder if TPTB had Rope's framing Andre be successful so that that story could be put on pause & free Hope to be able to focus her attention on Ciara & Chase.
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I cant believe I was excited for Days renewal and the return of Aiden eventually. I have always liked Chase and really wanted to see a complex, character driven story for him but nope. The writers are too damn lazy for that. Instead lets have him rape the girl he has been friends with since they were little kids. I keep seeing little Ciara and Chase and I am just repulsed.I am just beyond pissed.
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I was really getting the sense Chase would rape Ciara since the Feb sweeps spoilers. Then the Andre/Chase article last week with the "Sick Revenge"/"Even shocks Andre" etc. I just hoped if I didn't type it out-loud...
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Feb 12 2016, 08:27 AM
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Looks like a new Nicole and Theresa pic.
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Feb 12 2016, 11:03 AM
thepadange
Feb 12 2016, 09:19 AM
Lovejm
Feb 12 2016, 09:07 AM
The issue for me with the Ciara rape so soon after the Steve Ava stuff is that it's going to show the glaringly different ways the show treats it. They're already using the word betrayal with the Steve situation. And now you'll have a teenage rape situation as a constrast and I'm sure it'll be a big one.
They'll only use rape re Steve/Ava if the audience starts using it (but they're 6 months ahead, so the story will be over in 6 months and they probably will never address it as a rape). I don't think they were planning to use "rape" in Eric/Kristen case either. Their first terms were "seduced", "seduction" etc.
I assume you are talking about before the wedding reveal, maybe when Kristen was talking about what she did to Eric? I don't know. I think they planned on calling it rape because of the October rape accusation between Eric and Nicole. Would they have known by then that the audience reaction? I don't think they would have because that would only be about 4 months and they were still pretty far ahead by that time. I am glad though that whether they planned on calling it rape or not it was called rape. There were some pretty good scenes that came from that even up to the summer 2014 scenes when Kristen returned.
You're probably right. They were about 3 1/2 months ahead at the time, but their scripts were probably already written for October when the rape scenes started airing, so unless they decided to make last minute changes, they probably planned it.
It's just that I don't remember them using the word "rape" in their June promos and spoilers.
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ssedai2
Feb 12 2016, 01:34 AM
nananana7
Feb 12 2016, 12:14 AM
Copying over from the week Feb 22nd thread
lysie
Feb 11 2016, 11:39 PM
It probably happens on the day we don't have a 4th spoiler. And it's not a pregnancy or a return or a death or anything to do with Jeneric.
What if Rafe/Hope boink? Definitely vomit inducing without any of the other horrendous things we've guessed.
This is not it
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I cant see them cutting the rape. They likely shot soo much aftermath from it, how can they cut all that too? I dont think we will see a long graphic scene of it onscreen or anything, but I think it will still happen to Ciara (if this spoiler is legit)
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DiMera87
Feb 12 2016, 07:53 AM
I also hope that Hope is destroyed with guilt if this happens. It's been so freaking awkward how she has forced Ciara to deal with Chase multiple times now. She has constantly guilted Ciara into going to chase and trying to make him feel better. It's been sickening and extremely weird. Ciara made it clear that she's uneasy around Chase.
THIS!

Hope is being a bad parent in all of these cases...she is missing red flag after red flag....Chase should have been out of her house the moment she learned of the Theo thing...especially after learning that Chas has FEELINGS for Ciara...that alone is enough to warrant him being out of the same house...these two are TEENS...not adults...I would never allow a boy who has romantic feelings for my daughter to LIVE in the same house as her...especially after he hatefully bullied an austistic teen. Not to mention his SHIT behaviour towards Hope...the way he has spoken to her is outrageous.
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lysie


My only "issue" with it is their ages. But it could be a compelling story. I was just picturing the pbps next week being "Chase rapes Ci...Days renewed!"

Im also not thrilled with the timing in regards to Steve. But they were never going to treat Stava the way they should have anyway.
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