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Spoilers for the Week of February 15; Updated 2/8
Topic Started: Feb 5 2016, 09:48 PM (37,686 Views)
The Scorpion
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Hmm, I've never liked rape stories, and especially not on Daytime they never write good material with these kind of stories, and quite honestly Ciara and Chase? Do not even know if it's the right characters to join such a story? It feels fail even though the story has not been proven yet. Well, it remains to see how it all plays out, but I have no hope that this story will be worth seeing
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Hugo
Feb 12 2016, 03:49 PM
thepadange
Feb 12 2016, 03:42 PM
Hugo
Feb 12 2016, 03:35 PM
Meanwhile...

[twitter=YRInsider/status/698212035125850112]

:drunk:

Do you watch Y&R?
I have started again around the time JT joined them. I think it's good even if there's not a lot of stuff happening right now. The characters and stories don't make me want to punch myself. I with we could have nice things on Days too, where is the romance? :-/
I enjoy Pratt's writing in general. He surprises viewers and is unpredictable. But Y&R romances? I can't say I like how they write them. These two couples on the cover aren't what I'm looking forward to watch. One of them has some chemistry but their storyline was pretty horrible since Summer 2015 (she slept with his father not so long ago because she had some kind of partial amnesia but now she suddenly wants the son again), the other one is shoved down our throats 5/5 lately with a #3 recast but will most likely be finished (at least for a while) in a month or so. Y&R couples are pretty unstable.

But yes, the show isn't as dark as Days. Pratt is known for killing off legacy characters but CBS managed to handle it - they didn't allow him to do that (he stated it in one of his first interviews). Problem solved. I think NBC/Corday could do the same if they wanted. But they're probably ok with the darkness.
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thepadange
Feb 12 2016, 04:11 PM
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Feb 12 2016, 03:49 PM
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Feb 12 2016, 03:42 PM

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I have started again around the time JT joined them. I think it's good even if there's not a lot of stuff happening right now. The characters and stories don't make me want to punch myself. I with we could have nice things on Days too, where is the romance? :-/
I enjoy Pratt's writing in general. He surprises viewers and is unpredictable. But Y&R romances? I can't say I like how they write them. These two couples on the cover aren't what I'm looking forward to watch. One of them has some chemistry but their storyline was pretty horrible since Summer 2015 (she slept with his father not so long ago because she had some kind of partial amnesia but now she suddenly wants the son again), the other one is shoved down our throats 5/5 lately with a #3 recast but will most likely be finished (at least for a while) in a month or so. Y&R couples are pretty unstable.

But yes, the show isn't as dark as Days. Pratt is known for killing off legacy characters but CBS managed to handle it - they didn't allow him to do that (he stated it in one of his first interviews). Problem solved. I think NBC/Corday could do the same if they wanted. But they're probably ok with the darkness.
I think the current pairings they have are pretty good, I hope they won't be too much swaping again. I like Chelsea/Adam, Billy/Victoria, Hilary/Devon, Sharon/Dylan and even Nick/Sage. And the Noah/Marisa/Luca triangle. Meanwhile Days has a lot of mismatched couples right now: Rafe/Hope, Brady/Theresa, Nicole/Daniel, Eric/Jennifer, it's annoying.
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Based on nearly everything I've read, I'm dreading next weeks weekly preview. :shame:
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lysie
Feb 12 2016, 02:14 PM
cord08
Feb 12 2016, 02:12 PM
nananana7
Feb 12 2016, 02:06 PM
Someone posted on another thread that Deidre had posted that she would be doing doctor scenes with Ciara. Was that via twitter/facebook? or was it in an interview? Does anyone have a link, or know the approximate timeframe?
https://www.facebook.com/DeidreHallFanPage/photos/pb.200775673286852.-2207520000.1455304268./1060827627281648/?type=3&theater

She posted on December 19th, so we probably won't see them until June. :-/
She mentioned somewhere (day of days I think?) "that thing that happens with Hope's daughter", so maybe there's something before that, too.
It should be happening after what they had taped by the anniversary party though. Vivian Jovanni was asked who she wanted to work with and she said Deidre Hall, which would at least suggest they hadn't had proper scenes before then.

It would be pretty true to life if Ciara doesn't tell anyone at first, and it keeps growing into something that even a Hope with "Hey-Rafe-Let's-Murder-Andre" blinders on, can't ignore.
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Feb 12 2016, 04:30 PM
Based on nearly everything I've read, I'm dreading next weeks weekly preview. :shame:
I'm wondering which story they'll preview. If the viewers have no advance warning on the Ciara/Chase stuff, I actually think it's kind of irresponsible. I know some people hate the term and use of "trigger warning," but with some subjects, a heads up can be useful.
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Now that i've had time to adjust after my initial freakout, I think this has possibilities. My first thought was wanting Chase drawn and quartered but if Ciara can't tell anyone that could have some great beats, if VJ can handle the material. I absolutely can't imagine not knowing though and it coming out of nowhere. I am grateful to have had this spoiled and had time to adjust and adjust my thinking about it.
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It would be pretty true to life if Ciara doesn't tell anyone at first, and it keeps growing into something that even a Hope with "Hey-Rafe-Let's-Murder-Andre" blinders on, can't ignore.


Though, if he had let her murder Andre when she wanted to ... :-/
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Feb 12 2016, 12:46 PM
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Feb 12 2016, 12:41 PM
Lovejm
Feb 12 2016, 09:07 AM
The issue for me with the Ciara rape so soon after the Steve Ava stuff is that it's going to show the glaringly different ways the show treats it. They're already using the word betrayal with the Steve situation. And now you'll have a teenage rape situation as a constrast and I'm sure it'll be a big one.
The Steve/Ava thing should be treated differently because it is not "clear cut rape"....and IMO it is no where near the level of rape that happened to Eric with Kristen. Kristen DRUGGED Eric with something that would make him aroused and not remember anything...the same situation did not happen with Steve and Ava.

I will not call what happened between Steve & Ava as rape...it was wrong, but it was not rape...he could have done so many different things before he resulted to sleeping with her to save Kayla. Plus how did he "get it up" for her? How can I guy get it up for any women he so vehemently does NOT want to be around....of course unless his state has been altered in some way (ala when Kristen raped Eric and when Sami raped Austin).
Sex by blackmail is legally rape. People get convicted for rape when it happens in real life. I will say it's different though. Steve had a choice, but he really didn't. He loves Kayla more than his own life and she was going to die. I'm fine with the show treating it "differently" than what happens with Ciara because it is different. Still rape.
They are both rape and should be treated as such. All victims respond differently but I do think it is quite possible that a sixteen year old girl raped by her step brother by being physically overpowered should/would be very profoundly impacted by it. Not trying to say Steve isn't or shouldn't be but you could imagine a realistic situation where Ciara is more long term impacted by her rape.
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cord08
Feb 12 2016, 04:41 PM
I'm wondering which story they'll preview. If the viewers have no advance warning on the Ciara/Chase stuff, I actually think it's kind of irresponsible. I know some people hate the term and use of "trigger warning," but with some subjects, a heads up can be useful.
I agree.
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WLS Spoilers

Monday, February 15
Brady gets answers from Fynn about the mystery woman; Eduardo witnesses Deimos moving in on Kate; John gives Philip surprising information about Deimos; Belle comes to a decision about Philip.

Tuesday, February 16
Hope and Rafe carry out a plan to neutralize Andre; Andre takes advantage of Chase's distress; JJ is upset when he learns of Abigail's plans; Jennifer's addiction affects her work.

Wednesday, February 17
Chad suspects Andre may have killed Stefano; Ava returns to Salem just as Steve struggles to keep the truth from Kayla; Claire learns a shocking secret about Belle.

Thursday, February 18
Andre realizes Hope and Rafe set him up; Brady heads to California to track his dream woman; Shawn angrily tells Belle he's moving on... and arranges a date with someone else; Eric receives devastating news and ends up seeking comfort from Jennifer.

Friday, February 19
Kayla receives a shocking message from Ava; Brady runs into someone he knows as he seeks the mystery woman; Nicole and Theresa separately decide to follow Brady to California; Victor offers Philip a way to earn forgiveness.

http://www.welovesoaps.net/2016/02/days-of-our-lives-spoilers-february-15-19-2016.html#more
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About.com Spoilers

Monday, February 15
John gives Philip surprising information about Deimos.
Belle makes a decision about her relationship with Philip.

Tuesday, February 16
Andre manipulates a distraught Chase.
JJ is upset when he learns of Abigail’s plans.

Wednesday, February 17
Ava returns to Salem just as Steve struggles to keep the truth from Kayla.
Claire learns a shocking secret about Belle

Thursday, February 18
Andre is furious when he realizes Hope and Rafe have set him up.
Brady takes off for California to track down the woman in his dreams.

Friday, February 19
Kayla receives a shocking message from Ava.
Victor offers Philip a way to earn his forgiveness.

http://daysofourlives.about.com/od/scoopsandspoilers/fl/Days-of-our-Lives-Spoilers-February-15-to-19-2016.htm
Edited by WillFan, Feb 12 2016, 07:01 PM.
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lysie
Feb 12 2016, 03:18 PM
I thought VJ did well with the Bope stuff, so I'm hopeful she can pull this off. Of all the teens, she had the hardest job because Ciara is the child we were familiar with and had expectations for. We haven't had a kid like that in a really long time. Not even Will. He was onscreen a lot as a kid, but didn't really have his own personality like Ciara did. I don't remember Shawn D well enough to say if he was similar, but Carrie was in the 80s.
VJ hasn't had much to work with? She has had more material than any of those kids to work with including the young man who plays Joey.

I've said this before but when I returned to the show in November I was paying more attention to the old stuff I was watching on YouTube for the first time rather than the new stuff airing. A few weeks ago, I re-watched a lot of the Bo/Hope story from November and it really was well done IMO. All that trauma, the layers of palpable trauma, the foreboding of more trauma. Dark but good.

I'm pulling out two clip sets where I thought VJ did a pretty good job circa November. I was impressed with VJ in the last clip set here especially. VJ's had a few moments in the past few weeks where she's seemed more fluid (more fluid for her means "she's reminding me of 8 year old Ciara" so eh), but that set of clips is really the only time I can say I was impressed with her. I don't usually like her emotional stuff because there's a lot more to emotional scenes than being able to cry on cue which is all I'm usually getting from her in emotional scenes. I felt she brought more in these set of clips. Going into this next story, I really don't think she's completely hopeless but she's going to need to be able to do a lot more than 1-2 takes or this could be just bad on top of bad.





I think I just put my finger on why Chase creeped me out from the second I saw him back in November besides the story-line mixed with the character history. He was giving me "The Good Son" vibes (the look especially).








Edited by AngelaP, Feb 12 2016, 08:12 PM.
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I thought VJ worked pretty well with Peter. She hasn't impressed me at all since then though. She has been really bad a few times.


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Angie79
Feb 12 2016, 10:31 PM
I thought VJ worked pretty well with Peter. She hasn't impressed me at all since then though. She has been really bad a few times.


I feel the exact same way. She just clicked with Peter. It sucks that Bo isn't around for this. I'm not giving up on VJ yet though.
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The Scorpion
Feb 12 2016, 04:03 PM
Hmm, I've never liked rape stories, and especially not on Daytime they never write good material with these kind of stories, and quite honestly Ciara and Chase? Do not even know if it's the right characters to join such a story? It feels fail even though the story has not been proven yet. Well, it remains to see how it all plays out, but I have no hope that this story will be worth seeing
Yeah. I don't think the actors are strong enough to carry this type of story, plus Days hasn't done well with some rape storylines in the past and I wouldn't want that to happen again.
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laurondo
Feb 12 2016, 10:40 PM
The Scorpion
Feb 12 2016, 04:03 PM
Hmm, I've never liked rape stories, and especially not on Daytime they never write good material with these kind of stories, and quite honestly Ciara and Chase? Do not even know if it's the right characters to join such a story? It feels fail even though the story has not been proven yet. Well, it remains to see how it all plays out, but I have no hope that this story will be worth seeing
Yeah. I don't think the actors are strong enough to carry this type of story, plus Days hasn't done well with some rape storylines in the past and I wouldn't want that to happen again.
We won't know until we see them try. I thought Sami's rape as a teen was a good story from the clips that I saw. Of course that was back in 1994. I don't think many of the young actors involved in that story...AS, BD, PM, CC, and the guy who played Alan Harris (forget his name) were known as great actors. They got more takes back then I believe, so maybe that helped.
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^ Spoiler pic from twitter, somehow I lost the original tweet.
I think this is for week of Feb 15.

She seems to be looking through a window or glass door
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Restless84
Feb 12 2016, 10:47 PM
laurondo
Feb 12 2016, 10:40 PM
The Scorpion
Feb 12 2016, 04:03 PM
Hmm, I've never liked rape stories, and especially not on Daytime they never write good material with these kind of stories, and quite honestly Ciara and Chase? Do not even know if it's the right characters to join such a story? It feels fail even though the story has not been proven yet. Well, it remains to see how it all plays out, but I have no hope that this story will be worth seeing
Yeah. I don't think the actors are strong enough to carry this type of story, plus Days hasn't done well with some rape storylines in the past and I wouldn't want that to happen again.
We won't know until we see them try. I thought Sami's rape as a teen was a good story from the clips that I saw. Of course that was back in 1994. I don't think many of the young actors involved in that story...AS, BD, PM, CC, and the guy who played Alan Harris (forget his name) were known as great actors. They got more takes back then I believe, so maybe that helped.
You do make good points.

I guess I'll just not expect much from it and if it's handled well, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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nananana7
Feb 12 2016, 10:47 PM
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^ Spoiler pic from twitter, somehow I lost the original tweet.
I think this is for week of Feb 15.

She seems to be looking through a window or glass door
Looks like she's in a hospital room - likely the psych ward based on the casting call.
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No1_ILoveLucyFan
Feb 12 2016, 10:54 PM
nananana7
Feb 12 2016, 10:47 PM
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^ Spoiler pic from twitter, somehow I lost the original tweet.
I think this is for week of Feb 15.

She seems to be looking through a window or glass door
Looks like she's in a hospital room - likely the psych ward based on the casting call.
So she's behind some glass window, and Brady's talking to her?

Sigh. I hope this plays out better than it looks.
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