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Spoilers for the Week of February 15; Updated 2/8
Topic Started: Feb 5 2016, 09:48 PM (37,685 Views)
trojangal
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I really hate that they are having Chase rape Ciara :shame:
I have a soft spot for the poor kid after losing both his parents & now
the writers are turning his character into a rapist . Ugh!
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Ophelia
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Now that I'm over my initial relief about which stories this spoiler doesn't relate to, I'll comment on the Chase-Ciara thing. I hate it. I hate everything about it. If this was a show that could be trusted to handle things well, it might be a different story. MIGHT. We're not going to get any acknowledgement that Steve was raped. Eric STILL hasn't gotten any help for the fact that he was raped, that it was recorded (like Steve) and played for his whole family, that it got him ousted from the priesthood. It's worse because rape has become a fallback story for the writers. I don't know if anyone here has read anything by Seanan McGuire (aka Mira Grant), but she has a fantastic bit on why she won't write rape into her characters' stories. Things I will not do to my characters. Ever. Edit: The comments are stellar.
Edited by Ophelia, Feb 13 2016, 12:21 AM.
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I am really tired of DAYS using rape as a plot device. They don't do these storylines well or sensitively, so they shouldn't do them at all.
Edited by countess_cutlass, Feb 13 2016, 12:56 AM.
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DiMera87
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Lysie mentioned that the show thinks VJ is great. We haven't seen that onscreen yet. I've thought she did well in the heavy scenes but she can't handle the little stuff.

I've personally heard that this story is why the show thinks so highly of her. I am holding out some hope.
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trojangal
Feb 12 2016, 11:31 PM
I really hate that they are having Chase rape Ciara :shame:
I have a soft spot for the poor kid after losing both his parents & now
the writers are turning his character into a rapist . Ugh!
My feelings are this exactly. I really like Chase. I hate this.
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am103
Feb 13 2016, 01:41 AM
trojangal
Feb 12 2016, 11:31 PM
I really hate that they are having Chase rape Ciara :shame:
I have a soft spot for the poor kid after losing both his parents & now
the writers are turning his character into a rapist . Ugh!
My feelings are this exactly. I really like Chase. I hate this.
Same. I don't mind Chase too much. He's a decent actor, the character has potential. But this is going to make me dislike him forever like EJ and Kristen.
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DiMera87
Feb 12 2016, 03:18 PM
where can i find these photos I remember on one of those cast photos in the pub, Ciara had pink streaks in her hair. At the time everyone was assuming that she was acting out because of Bo's death but now we know. Seems obvious that she's going to keep this a secret and end up acting out.
and also I just checked. Voldemort quotes Thaao as saying:
"Some of the things that Chase will do leaves even Andre in shock"
was this an article online
Edited by lisawinnie, Feb 13 2016, 08:16 AM.
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Hugo
Feb 12 2016, 04:22 PM
thepadange
Feb 12 2016, 04:11 PM
Hugo
Feb 12 2016, 03:49 PM

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I enjoy Pratt's writing in general. He surprises viewers and is unpredictable. But Y&R romances? I can't say I like how they write them. These two couples on the cover aren't what I'm looking forward to watch. One of them has some chemistry but their storyline was pretty horrible since Summer 2015 (she slept with his father not so long ago because she had some kind of partial amnesia but now she suddenly wants the son again), the other one is shoved down our throats 5/5 lately with a #3 recast but will most likely be finished (at least for a while) in a month or so. Y&R couples are pretty unstable.

But yes, the show isn't as dark as Days. Pratt is known for killing off legacy characters but CBS managed to handle it - they didn't allow him to do that (he stated it in one of his first interviews). Problem solved. I think NBC/Corday could do the same if they wanted. But they're probably ok with the darkness.
I think the current pairings they have are pretty good, I hope they won't be too much swaping again. I like Chelsea/Adam, Billy/Victoria, Hilary/Devon, Sharon/Dylan and even Nick/Sage. And the Noah/Marisa/Luca triangle. Meanwhile Days has a lot of mismatched couples right now: Rafe/Hope, Brady/Theresa, Nicole/Daniel, Eric/Jennifer, it's annoying.
I'm probably too picky in regards to pairings. I only liked (not sure I still like) Sharon/Dylan.

I always thought Y&R was more conservative than Days. "Sexy and hot" was what described Days. But Dena and Josh seem to be quite conservative re: love scenes. Not that I'm complaining, I have no interest in watching 80% of the current Days pairings in bed.
But just for comparision: one of Y&R' producers posted this promo:
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Edited by thepadange, Feb 13 2016, 08:36 AM.
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thepadange
Feb 13 2016, 08:23 AM
Hugo
Feb 12 2016, 04:22 PM
thepadange
Feb 12 2016, 04:11 PM

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I think the current pairings they have are pretty good, I hope they won't be too much swaping again. I like Chelsea/Adam, Billy/Victoria, Hilary/Devon, Sharon/Dylan and even Nick/Sage. And the Noah/Marisa/Luca triangle. Meanwhile Days has a lot of mismatched couples right now: Rafe/Hope, Brady/Theresa, Nicole/Daniel, Eric/Jennifer, it's annoying.
I'm probably too picky in regards to pairings. I only liked (not sure I still like) Sharon/Dylan.

I always thought Y&R was more conservative than Days. "Sexy and hot" was what described Days. But Dena and Josh seem to be quite conservative re: love scenes. Not that I'm complaining, I have no interest in watching 80% of the current Days pairings in bed.
But just for comparision: one of Y&R' producers posted this promo:
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I love Chadam and Villy
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am103
Feb 13 2016, 01:41 AM
trojangal
Feb 12 2016, 11:31 PM
I really hate that they are having Chase rape Ciara :shame:
I have a soft spot for the poor kid after losing both his parents & now
the writers are turning his character into a rapist . Ugh!
My feelings are this exactly. I really like Chase. I hate this.
This is why I don't want to watch this show anymore. I'm only hanging out with DAYS until the character I do like (who they have destroyed at least to a certain degree) is gone. If he comes back I'll come back, but that is just loyalty for the character on my part. They have destroyed all of the characters I cared about and Chase is just one more to mark off the list.

Characters the show has destroyed in my eyes:
Chase
Aiden
Eric
Nicole
Will (though he was destroyed by Tomsell)
Hope (though I don't really care about her)
Chad (because I don't really see him as an antihero and would rather see him closer to who he was under tomsell)
Steve and Kayla (characters not destroyed, but the Ava story is stupid)
Brady (though his destruction has been a long time coming)
Theresa (She's a better bitch)
Family relationships (Eric/Brady, Eric/Caroline, Eric/Theresa - that was something Tomsell did well)
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The sex scenes I've seen on Y&R recently were hot and tasteful. They don't have a lot of sex scenes on Days anymore, which is not necessarly a bad thing because the recent ones we got were not good. Hope and Aiden's first time was so weird, Serena and Eric looked like soft porn recorded on an old VHS, Paul and Will was disturbing because of Sonny almost walking on them, Ben and Abby had a weird one on some bad pop music, Daniel and Nicole in the shower looked nasty and what is there to say about Eve/JJ? The Chabby sex scene in the DiMera garden was probably the only good scene we got on this show recently.
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DiMera87
Feb 13 2016, 01:39 AM
Lysie mentioned that the show thinks VJ is great.
Just because TPTB think she's good, doesn't mean she really is. I can think of at least one other actress who TPTB were enamored with, but who was just unwatchable.
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Hugo
Feb 13 2016, 10:15 AM
The sex scenes I've seen on Y&R recently were hot and tasteful. They don't have a lot of sex scenes on Days anymore, which is not necessarly a bad thing because the recent ones we got were not good. Hope and Aiden's first time was so weird, Serena and Eric looked like soft porn recorded on an old VHS, Paul and Will was disturbing because of Sonny almost walking on them, Ben and Abby had a weird one on some bad pop music, Daniel and Nicole in the shower looked nasty and what is there to say about Eve/JJ? The Chabby sex scene in the DiMera garden was probably the only good scene we got on this show recently.
Love scenes on this show are really nonexistent or between the 'wrong' people. I agree the last good one was the DiMera garden.
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Ophelia
Feb 13 2016, 12:13 AM
Now that I'm over my initial relief about which stories this spoiler doesn't relate to, I'll comment on the Chase-Ciara thing. I hate it. I hate everything about it. If this was a show that could be trusted to handle things well, it might be a different story. MIGHT. We're not going to get any acknowledgement that Steve was raped. Eric STILL hasn't gotten any help for the fact that he was raped, that it was recorded (like Steve) and played for his whole family, that it got him ousted from the priesthood. It's worse because rape has become a fallback story for the writers. I don't know if anyone here has read anything by Seanan McGuire (aka Mira Grant), but she has a fantastic bit on why she won't write rape into her characters' stories. Things I will not do to my characters. Ever. Edit: The comments are stellar.
Totally agree. If you're going to go with something like rape, you don't use it for shock value, then just drop it like it never happened. You need to follow thru with the beats and get some sense of closure with it for the victims, and imo, the villains should pay. Days doesn't even seem to know the difference between the rapist and victim lately. Days just needs to stay away from it. I don't trust them at all after Eric.
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Lovejm
Feb 13 2016, 10:35 AM
Hugo
Feb 13 2016, 10:15 AM
The sex scenes I've seen on Y&R recently were hot and tasteful. They don't have a lot of sex scenes on Days anymore, which is not necessarly a bad thing because the recent ones we got were not good. Hope and Aiden's first time was so weird, Serena and Eric looked like soft porn recorded on an old VHS, Paul and Will was disturbing because of Sonny almost walking on them, Ben and Abby had a weird one on some bad pop music, Daniel and Nicole in the shower looked nasty and what is there to say about Eve/JJ? The Chabby sex scene in the DiMera garden was probably the only good scene we got on this show recently.
Love scenes on this show are really nonexistent or between the 'wrong' people. I agree the last good one was the DiMera garden.
I also like that on Y&R we see a lot of marital sex. I think they rarely show that on Days, it's usually single people having sex or someone cheating on their spouse.
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Hugo
Feb 13 2016, 10:46 AM
Lovejm
Feb 13 2016, 10:35 AM
Hugo
Feb 13 2016, 10:15 AM
The sex scenes I've seen on Y&R recently were hot and tasteful. They don't have a lot of sex scenes on Days anymore, which is not necessarly a bad thing because the recent ones we got were not good. Hope and Aiden's first time was so weird, Serena and Eric looked like soft porn recorded on an old VHS, Paul and Will was disturbing because of Sonny almost walking on them, Ben and Abby had a weird one on some bad pop music, Daniel and Nicole in the shower looked nasty and what is there to say about Eve/JJ? The Chabby sex scene in the DiMera garden was probably the only good scene we got on this show recently.
Love scenes on this show are really nonexistent or between the 'wrong' people. I agree the last good one was the DiMera garden.
I also like that on Y&R we see a lot of marital sex. I think they rarely show that on Days, it's usually single people having sex or someone cheating on their spouse.
I think YR builds solid relationships in contrast to DAYS where few couples stay together more than six months. I think YR realizes that you can have conflict and story with a happy couple and DAYS seems to think that the only way to create conflict is to tear the couple apart. That might be one of he reasons that I think the writing overall is better at YR than DAYS. They have more consistently happy couples. They don't always have perfect couples by any means, but they are more consistent. Pairings don't always work out, but I don't think I've seen a couple with amazing chemistry at YR that the show just decided to quit and change directions. I mean there is Nick and Sharon, but they are always in each others orbits and probably are never truly over. I guess my question would be, why is there that big difference? Is that Corday or poor writing, or is it actors that make demands? I only started watching YR consistently once DAYS started going in a direction I didn't like, but I have to admit that of the two shows YR is the better written show over the long haul. At least that is my opinion. I know others think differently and that is fine.
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Jasminemg
Feb 13 2016, 10:12 AM
am103
Feb 13 2016, 01:41 AM
trojangal
Feb 12 2016, 11:31 PM
I really hate that they are having Chase rape Ciara :shame:
I have a soft spot for the poor kid after losing both his parents & now
the writers are turning his character into a rapist . Ugh!
My feelings are this exactly. I really like Chase. I hate this.
This is why I don't want to watch this show anymore. I'm only hanging out with DAYS until the character I do like (who they have destroyed at least to a certain degree) is gone. If he comes back I'll come back, but that is just loyalty for the character on my part. They have destroyed all of the characters I cared about and Chase is just one more to mark off the list.

Characters the show has destroyed in my eyes:
Chase
Aiden
Eric
Nicole
Will (though he was destroyed by Tomsell)
Hope (though I don't really care about her)
Chad (because I don't really see him as an antihero and would rather see him closer to who he was under tomsell)
Steve and Kayla (characters not destroyed, but the Ava story is stupid)
Brady (though his destruction has been a long time coming)
Theresa (She's a better bitch)
Family relationships (Eric/Brady, Eric/Caroline, Eric/Theresa - that was something Tomsell did well)
Family relationships is the one that has me really shaking my head. Brady has no interaction with his Dad or Marlena. Its all but forgotten that Theresa is a Brady. I want to see her in more scenes with Eric and Caroline. Lucas should be shown more with Jennifer.
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Kyrai
Feb 13 2016, 10:36 AM
Ophelia
Feb 13 2016, 12:13 AM
Now that I'm over my initial relief about which stories this spoiler doesn't relate to, I'll comment on the Chase-Ciara thing. I hate it. I hate everything about it. If this was a show that could be trusted to handle things well, it might be a different story. MIGHT. We're not going to get any acknowledgement that Steve was raped. Eric STILL hasn't gotten any help for the fact that he was raped, that it was recorded (like Steve) and played for his whole family, that it got him ousted from the priesthood. It's worse because rape has become a fallback story for the writers. I don't know if anyone here has read anything by Seanan McGuire (aka Mira Grant), but she has a fantastic bit on why she won't write rape into her characters' stories. Things I will not do to my characters. Ever. Edit: The comments are stellar.
Totally agree. If you're going to go with something like rape, you don't use it for shock value, then just drop it like it never happened. You need to follow thru with the beats and get some sense of closure with it for the victims, and imo, the villains should pay. Days doesn't even seem to know the difference between the rapist and victim lately. Days just needs to stay away from it. I don't trust them at all after Eric.
The fact that this upcoming event hasn't been promoted at all gives me hope it isn't being used for shock value.
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lisawinnie
Feb 13 2016, 02:34 AM
DiMera87
Feb 12 2016, 02:18 PM
I remember on one of those cast photos in the pub, Ciara had pink streaks in her hair. At the time everyone was assuming that she was acting out because of Bo's death but now we know. Seems obvious that she's going to keep this a secret and end up acting out.
where can i find these photos

I am curious also. I would like to see the photos. Does anyone have a link?
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nananana7
Feb 13 2016, 11:59 AM
lisawinnie
Feb 13 2016, 02:34 AM
DiMera87
Feb 12 2016, 02:18 PM
I remember on one of those cast photos in the pub, Ciara had pink streaks in her hair. At the time everyone was assuming that she was acting out because of Bo's death but now we know. Seems obvious that she's going to keep this a secret and end up acting out.
where can i find these photos

I am curious also. I would like to see the photos. Does anyone have a link?
On set cake pic group shot from November.
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