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Feb 7 2016, 10:16 AM
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The complaint about new people might be true if any of these characters were driving front-burner stories. But they aren't. Lani and Fynn have barely been used, Eduardo has been almost entirely a supporting character, and four of the characters you mention haven't even hit the screen yet to know what kind of story they have. Deimos is the only one to have been given significant story right off the bat and he's being well-received.
The major stories on the show have centered around long-term characters, even if some of those characters have been off the screen for awhile. That isn't the same as bringing in a bunch of new characters, centering story around them, and shoving vets/long-term characters off the show or into the background.
I'm not sure if this isn't worse. I hate when they bring a bunch of new characters and don't know what to do with them. What are some of these people paid for? I'd prefer they brought one character (eg.Eduardo) instead of the three and showed him in several stories 2 ep/week.
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Feb 7 2016, 10:19 AM
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The complaint about new people might be true if any of these characters were driving front-burner stories. But they aren't. Lani and Fynn have barely been used, Eduardo has been almost entirely a supporting character, and four of the characters you mention haven't even hit the screen yet to know what kind of story they have. Deimos is the only one to have been given significant story right off the bat and he's being well-received.
The major stories on the show have centered around long-term characters, even if some of those characters have been off the screen for awhile. That isn't the same as bringing in a bunch of new characters, centering story around them, and shoving vets/long-term characters off the show or into the background. It's not easy to do it right. So far, I think they have done a good job with Eduardo, Fynn and Deimos. Lani is another story, her introduction as Abe's daughter should have been a bigger story.
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Feb 7 2016, 04:35 PM
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where can i find this interview Josh seems to be repeating some things he wrote at Y&R so that's a clue and he also brought a dark tone to the show in the fall that seemed specific to him. He also gave some ideas in the interview last summer when he talked about writing for supercouples.
The best I could find is a summary of the interview. Is this the only at length interview he's done so far re:DAYS? - Quote:
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Copyright Violation/Post will be removed asks him what his first steps after being hired. Griffith says that Greg Meng and Ken Corday approached him after he left Y&R. He said he had never worked with Dena before so they met a few times and learned they were on the same page. The firing/hiring happened very quickly. He had to just dive in and reacquaint himself with Days. He has always been a fan and always watched the show so he knew what was going on. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed then asks if he had any ideas already in place when he came in. Griffith answers that he has ALWAYS wanted to write Days. He started watching in the late 80s/early 90s, and he loved it. He is very happy to that he is finally able to write for the show. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed wanted to know what it is about his vision for the show that had KC excited and how it will hit the mark. Griffith tells them that they wanted to center everything on the core families and the characters more than anything else. There were so many new characters that had come in under the old writers so he and Dena immediately started thinking on their own that they needed to bring back the old characters that everyone loved. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed asks how they even began looking at a show that was in such a bad place and decide how to fix it. Griffith replies that with any show he went into, he had to ask himself what the show had that he wanted to see, what would he want to write, and what would bring back that feel that it used to have. Then he just ran with it. Once you get an idea of where you want to go, you just look at where they are at that moment and figure out what you need to do to get it from there to where you want it to be. Sometimes it is easy, sometimes it is not and you need to blow things up. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed next wanted to know how this serial killer story is going to be different than those that Days has done in the past. Griffith told them that they have the opportunity to tell an intense and suspenseful story and can show the audience that they are not playing around. People are going to die, and the audience is going to be shocked and not expect it. He said it was a chance to grab the audience and say, “Guess what??? We’re not pulling any punches!” He thinks that the surprises they have coming in the story will have the viewers gasping. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed says that knowing the 50th was coming, did it make it easier or tougher to come up with story line. Griffith says that it was actually easier. Ken had a great idea to do the Bicentennial Celebration and tie the history of the town to the story so it made it easy. They didn’t want to just bring on all the veteran characters to just say Hi and then go away again. They built a story that gave them a reason to come to town and be involved, not just a stunt with flashy material, the Bicentennial is grounded and story driven, not just lip service for the 50th. They brought back all the people in a heavy duty story line that will spin into even more stories. They are now writing for March and are still playing off the story they had in place for the 50th. They are sure the fans will be very happy with what they have done. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed wanted to know what he felt the show needed to focus on to improve. Griffith says that the word improvement is subjective. They looked at it and asked themselves what they wanted to see and said that they wanted a show that was heavy on romance, mystery, suspense, and action. He says those are all things Days has been known for in its history and has done it better than anyone else. He says that they wanted to make it an incredible place to be for an hour every day. It isn’t about what the previous writers were doing wrong, it was about what they were going to do to fix it. What he and Dena came up with was exactly what Corday wanted too. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed wanted to know if there were any characters that were already there that needed more screen time and who they were. Griffith said that everything came out of the stories they have written. Once they decided on what they were going to do, then that decided who was going to be brought to the front. Many of the core characters had been pushed aside before and they wanted to fix that. Teams come on and have their faves and they want to write for them, there is only so much time in a day that you can fit in so a lot were being pushed to the side. They focused on the stories and pulled from the show’s history, so it naturally brought those characters back to the front and pushed the newer ones to the sides. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed wanted to know who will be seen. Griffith says that Steve and Bo are back. Andre, Shawn, and Belle are coming. Philip is back. Ava is back. Lots of good things are coming. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed wanted to know whether it was important to put Bo & Hope, John & Marlena, Steve & Kayla all back on the front burner. Griffith says that it was absolutely important. They are the top three couples that made him fall in love with Days. There is such exciting, emotional, action, suspenseful, romantic stuff with those three couples and there is no way to go wrong with them in the front. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed asks what Griffith can tell them about John-Paul Lavoisier as Philip. Was he casted because Josh & Dena knew him from OLTL? Griffith said they casted him because he is fantastic and they knew that he was from both working with him, but not at the same time. They were saying that they needed to bring Philip back and Josh was looking at Copyright Violation/Post will be removed and seeing all the info on Winterthorne. He saw JPL’s picture and said that he was Philip. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed asked what he wanted the fans to know about how serious he was on restoring Days. Griffith says that he wants them to know that he is so entrenched in it and so determined to make it a show they want to watch and love again. He says that it is an iconic Days but one that will be made for the 21st century. They are taking everything that they loved about Days and pushing it forward. It will be faster moving. The look, the feel will be much more “prime time” like. It is the best of all worlds and he thinks the fans will love going on the ride. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed asked if it felt like an eternity waiting for their stuff to air. Griffith says that it has been challenging. They are going with their instinct. He is the kind of writer who loves being down on the floor, watching the tapings. He loves being on set. So he is seeing the dynamic. He is seeing the stuff that is working and that so far, everything is working. The actors are taking it to new levels and it is exciting to watch. It has been frustrating that it is not on the air, but he is seeing the results and he never imagined it would be so good. He feels the fans are going to agree with him. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed asked how he would describe his style..does he like meeting the cast and getting to know them. Griffith says that he has always liked meeting his cast. He says the cast at Days knows what they are doing, what they have done and where they come from. Hearing that from them is necessary to being able to write for them. They know the history of the show and their characters so who better to listen to? He likes getting input from them and they discuss things and tweak things together. He loves being in the thick of things and getting feedback and he feels the actors like it too. It is a collaboration. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed asked if Josh has had any “pinch me” moments since he wanted to write for Days for so long. Griffith says absolutely! He was talking with Mary Beth Evans once and he was saying to himself in his head, “This is Kayla! I am talking to Kayla!” He was in love with her for 25 years and there he was talking to her. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed asks if Josh feels that knowing Days so well helped in his approach to writing and Josh says definitely. The other shows he went into he learned to love as he was writing. With Days, he was already in love with so he didn’t need to learn everything in order to fall in love with it. It’s a dream come true for him. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed wanted to know if there was anything he could tease about upcoming story. Griffith said that the whole story building up to and surrounding the return of Bo will be huge and the serial killer story will connect to that story and then it will spin out even more. Future story will rock the DiMeras, Kiriakis, and Bradys for a long time and will affect others throughout Salem. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed then asked if there were any lessons learned from Josh’s time at other soaps that he is using at Days. Griffith says that first…don’t bring on a ton of new people! To stay true to your vision and keep the fans happy. That is hard to do because there are so many fan bases out there, you can’t please everyone. He feels though that when you center the show within the show they all grew up on, keep the core that they know and love, you will be in good shape. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed wanted to know if Josh has any goals set for the show that he wants to see. He says his goal is to never allow there to be a lull. To keep the stories flowing into one another, all crests and no drops. That and to stay true to what they are setting out to do, which is to make the show the best on the air. He wants it filled with romance, action, and suspense….the Hitchcock of daytime TV. Copyright Violation/Post will be removed asks if he feels pressure to live up to any hype and to that he answers that he tries not to think about the pressure or he’d be going nuts. He never wants to take it for granted or rest on his laurels. To finish up, Copyright Violation/Post will be removed wants to know how Griffith would describe Salem under him and Dena. Josh says it is the most dynamic, exciting, romantic city on the planet. They are coming at us with everything they have. Be prepared, it’s going to be the ride of our lives! https://www.facebook.com/notes/days-of-our-lives-forum-spoiler-page/sod-interview-with-josh-griffith/1003540706343816/
I did that synopsis of the interview and it is pretty much exactly from the magazine that shall not be named. All I did was use some synonyms for things JG said and added the "Josh said" rather than quoting him. I did it from a screen shot someone posted on Twitter of the interview. ;)
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Feb 7 2016, 04:53 PM
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The complaint about new people might be true if any of these characters were driving front-burner stories. But they aren't. Lani and Fynn have barely been used, Eduardo has been almost entirely a supporting character, and four of the characters you mention haven't even hit the screen yet to know what kind of story they have. Deimos is the only one to have been given significant story right off the bat and he's being well-received.
The major stories on the show have centered around long-term characters, even if some of those characters have been off the screen for awhile. That isn't the same as bringing in a bunch of new characters, centering story around them, and shoving vets/long-term characters off the show or into the background.
I'm not sure if this isn't worse. I hate when they bring a bunch of new characters and don't know what to do with them. What are some of these people paid for? I'd prefer they brought one character (eg.Eduardo) instead of the three and showed him in several stories 2 ep/week. How do you know they don't know what to do with them? Maybe they are doing what people have been asking them to do for years. That is to slowly work new characters into the show without pushing them down viewers throats.
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Feb 7 2016, 05:00 PM
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Any more spoilers for next week?
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Feb 7 2016, 05:02 PM
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There will be Monday.
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Feb 7 2016, 05:42 PM
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Considering the last two weeks has been so bad I couldn't even muster enough enthusiasm to post anything positive, these sound like an improvement. I have been so turned off by the Ava crap and Steve's writing in this. The fact he never saw that Kayla was alive & just left town leaving Kayla somewhere probably injured was some of the worst stuff I've seen. Then for him to sleep with Ava before she told him where Kayla was and to really "give it to her" like she'd want was disgusting. Why not just let her do her thing while he lie there. I was sick how he was aggressive with her& she loved it. She had already told him if he left with her, she'd call Joey and tell her where Kayla was but instead she now demanded sex first. Another stupid piece of writing making Steve look gullible. She lied about everything, being sick, etc, but yes, Steve, she's not lying about a baby. It's just horrendous. And I can't believe Kayla has to put up with this crap. I'm almost ready to quit again. It's that bad.
I really don't want Kayla forgiving Steve any time soon and I want her to go out with someone else. I'm sick of Steve doing the screwing and leaving as far as their relationship is concerned. And I'm one of the biggest Stayla fans. This is how sucky writing loves to ruin Super Couples. They've almost ruined every SC we've had during a stretch of terrible writing. I just don't know why they allowed it to go this far. The August to November stuff was working and on fire and it was about couples and then they go and decide cheap thrills (or Dena did), cheating spouses, bed hopping, coming between couples with nasty exes or brainwashing and a whole lot of Dicole mourning for weeks was the way to go. They (she) was wrong.
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Feb 7 2016, 06:15 PM
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Considering the last two weeks has been so bad I couldn't even muster enough enthusiasm to post anything positive, these sound like an improvement. I have been so turned off by the Ava crap and Steve's writing in this. The fact he never saw that Kayla was alive & just left town leaving Kayla somewhere probably injured was some of the worst stuff I've seen. Then for him to sleep with Ava before she told him where Kayla was and to really "give it to her" like she'd want was disgusting. Why not just let her do her thing while he lie there. I was sick how he was aggressive with her& she loved it. She had already told him if he left with her, she'd call Joey and tell her where Kayla was but instead she now demanded sex first. Another stupid piece of writing making Steve look gullible. She lied about everything, being sick, etc, but yes, Steve, she's not lying about a baby. It's just horrendous. And I can't believe Kayla has to put up with this crap. I'm almost ready to quit again. It's that bad.
I really don't want Kayla forgiving Steve any time soon and I want her to go out with someone else. I'm sick of Steve doing the screwing and leaving as far as their relationship is concerned. And I'm one of the biggest Stayla fans. This is how sucky writing loves to ruin Super Couples. They've almost ruined every SC we've had during a stretch of terrible writing. I just don't know why they allowed it to go this far. The August to November stuff was working and on fire and it was about couples and then they go and decide cheap thrills (or Dena did), cheating spouses, bed hopping, coming between couples with nasty exes or brainwashing and a whole lot of Dicole mourning for weeks was the way to go. They (she) was wrong. I agree with every thing you said. My big question is why didn't he drag Ava right back and charge her with kidnapping and holding Kayla hostage. And also she attacked her, too. Why does she continue to be free?
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Feb 8 2016, 12:08 AM
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Buzzworthy Spoilers For Week of February 15
-Belle makes a decision about her relationship with Philip.
-Hope and Rafe carry out a plan to neutralize Andre.
-Andre manipulates a distraught Chase.
-Ava returns to Salem, while Steve struggles to keep the truth from Kayla.
-Brady rushes off to California to track down the mysterious woman in his dreams.
-Victor offers Philip a way to earn back his forgiveness.
Edited by AngelaP, Feb 8 2016, 12:11 AM.
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Feb 8 2016, 12:09 AM
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Oops, post the same time as Angela. Here is the link:
http://buzzworthyradiocast.com/?p=2385
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Feb 8 2016, 12:10 AM
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Please don't let Victors forgiveness effort be related to Phillip bedding Belle I'm sick of these parents over invested in their children's love lives.
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Feb 8 2016, 12:11 AM
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These are in order. The second and third are both Tuesday.
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I've enjoyed Philip but Victor holding this over him now isn't fun
Steve. Really? You didn't tell her what happened? And I thought they'd save that story for me by having Steve stop the blackmail.
Edited by Lovejm, Feb 8 2016, 12:13 AM.
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Feb 8 2016, 12:13 AM
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Please don't let Victors forgiveness effort be related to Phillip bedding Belle I'm sick of these parents over invested in their children's love lives. Why would Victor want Philip to bed Belle? They are already sleeping together anyways.
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Feb 8 2016, 12:14 AM
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Oh shoot, that means Ava will be blackmailing him some more. Will this nightmare of a story ever be over?
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Steve Steve Steve ...... just tell her.
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Feb 8 2016, 12:20 AM
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I've enjoyed Philip but Victor holding this over him now isn't fun
Steve. Really? You didn't tell her what happened? And I thought they'd save that story for me by having Steve stop the blackmail. Yeah, I'm not really feeling Victor at this point. I don't want to get rid of Stefano and his ridiculous control over the "Family" to only have that story be doubled-down on by Victor. I mean, Victor's done that before, but I don't need to see it again and again.
The only way they could save the Steve/Ava crap is if they had Steve be reluctant to say anything because he is somehow psychologically traumatized by what happened (which would actually be, you know, realistic. Not to mention consistent with the Johnson self-loathing complex). But...I am 99% sure they'll play it as adultery. :drunk: :shame:
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Ava returns to Salem, while Steve struggles to keep the truth from Kayla.
Idiot says what?
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Feb 8 2016, 12:26 AM
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So that seems to confirm that Ava isn't in Salem for the Valentine's Day episode... So stupid not to just let her be off screen for five minutes, shift the focus back to S&K where it belongs at this point in the story, let Steve try to get his life back together, and then have her pop up again.
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Feb 8 2016, 12:27 AM
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I've enjoyed Philip but Victor holding this over him now isn't fun
Steve. Really? You didn't tell her what happened? And I thought they'd save that story for me by having Steve stop the blackmail.
Yeah, I'm not really feeling Victor at this point. I don't want to get rid of Stefano and his ridiculous control over the "Family" to only have that story be doubled-down on by Victor. I mean, Victor's done that before, but I don't need to see it again and again. The only way they could save the Steve/Ava crap is if they had Steve be reluctant to say anything because he is somehow psychologically traumatized by what happened (which would actually be, you know, realistic. Not to mention consistent with the Johnson self-loathing complex). But...I am 99% sure they'll play it as adultery. :drunk: :shame: Ava was already holding it over him on Thursday so I bet it's just more of that.
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