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Monday, February 8th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 7 2016, 08:39 AM (14,718 Views)
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So, I double checked and saw that for the 2/4/16 ep, Dena Higley's name appears 1st as Head writer, but today's ep, 2/8/16, Josh Griffith's is 1st. Does that mean anything?
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Feb 8 2016, 03:20 PM
So, I double checked and saw that for the 2/4/16 ep, Dena Higley's name appears 1st as Head writer, but today's ep, 2/8/16, Josh Griffith's is 1st. Does that mean anything?
Not necessarily. I think Jason said before that their names alternate in credit position about every other week.
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Today definitely sounded like there was movement to the Hope Rafe reveal and maybe a direction change for the Ava story. Which is good news. I do agree with someone who mentioned it may take a few more weeks until sweeps ends to wrap this stuff up.

I'm also still hoping Chad and Abby elope. Every day it seems less likely a wedding in Salem happens.
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cord08
Feb 8 2016, 02:57 PM
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Feb 8 2016, 02:47 PM
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Feb 8 2016, 02:40 PM

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I think Steve's reaction may have been a tweak. I wouldn't have been surprised if Higley would have had him wiping away Ava's psychotic tears. But there have been a lot of dead baby anvils since the beginning, and the show never had the characters talk about the kid like the adult it would have been in the world today, if they found it... so I never really sensed a plan there.

TB being seemingly so short term is why I was kind of surprised that this ended up being a baby story at all.
You're probably right about Steve's reaction. Damn, that would have been disgusting to see him consoling her. Big ups to the person who may have rewritten that.

I think the whole, "never sensed a plan" applies to the whole story. And that's why the overall writing of it has been so messy.
I pretty much agree, although I think there were a few hints from the start of what the writers were committed to in this story... Steve and Kayla needed to be together for the story, Ava was going to sleep with someone, and Joey was going to play a major role (one that I don't think has played out yet, although I've been wrong about a lot). The exact how/what/why to accomplish that has felt more haphazard.
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I think you might be able to repair Hope, IMO, after today's show...there is no way, to repair Rafe.
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PALMommy
Feb 8 2016, 02:41 PM
I actually wondered if this "baby" has been a scheme cooked up all along by Ava and there never was a baby, only a ploy to sleep with Steve? That even today's stuff was all fabricated by her.
I think there was a baby but she knew it was dead.
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Feb 8 2016, 02:00 PM
Lovejm
Feb 8 2016, 12:15 PM
Rafe threatens to arrest Andre. I really can't stand Rafe now.
For what, I wonder? :shrug: Trepassing on the demo site? Making a prank call of opera? Not having a facial wound taken care of?
Maybe he's jealous he's getting better lines and a better s/l...it definitely is a television crime
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Lovejm
Feb 8 2016, 03:35 PM
Today definitely sounded like there was movement to the Hope Rafe reveal and maybe a direction change for the Ava story. Which is good news. I do agree with someone who mentioned it may take a few more weeks until sweeps ends to wrap this stuff up.

I'm also still hoping Chad and Abby elope. Every day it seems less likely a wedding in Salem happens.
I don't think a wedding going to happen....its all about drama. I can just picture somebody interrupting the wedding or something and Abby freaks out.. All down hill from there.

Where is the romance? Def. not at days. 🙄
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OMG. TB was awful in that last scene. Talk about over the top.

Poor Chad, he already know if Hope murdered Steffi, it's going to come between him and Abby.Abby is already jumping to Hope's defense. Hence why he wants to elope.

Not interested in a Theo/Ciara/Chase triangle.

Sick of Andre.
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Feb 8 2016, 02:09 PM
Well, I for one thought it was a decent episode. Friday was better but today showed signs of change once again in terms of more and more Griffith and stories changing gears/ending.

I agree that it does seem like someone pushed the gas pedal on the Hope/Rafe/Andre stuff. As I said on Friday, it's clear Griffith's influences are becoming more and more prominent and while Rafe was nothing like he was in the Fall, I don't think he will be for awhile. I think we will see Rafe and Hope both pay for what they did and the scenes with Andre today called out Rafe on everything he has done and everything Hope has done. Under Higley, they were both being painted as being justified but, today, it didn't come off that way. That, to me, already signifies a major shift and we also have those Abe/Lani scenes and even Abby wondering about Hope. I suspect it will all climax at the Chad/Abby wedding in a big way and I can't wait, especially now that the Higley impact seems to be lessening. I enjoyed all the scenes today in this story and how others are getting involved.

Also, another big sign of change was the Theo/Ciara stuff. It finally felt like a story and was treated as more than filler. I actually LIKED VJ in that last scene with KP. Hopefully this continues because this is the first time I felt this was treated right.

The Chad/Abby stuff was more buildup but very effective.

I also felt a change in the Kayla/Steve/Ava stuff. I think the baby being dead is an obvious rewrite because this all got handled way too quick. TB was good today but I'm just glad it looks like Griffith jettisoned the long-term ramifications of this and is just going to burn through this, just like the Hope/Rafe stuff, and deal with the fallout. Nothing more that can be done, really. But it is obvious the Ava stuff along with the Rafe/Hope stuff got accelerated today and that definitely signifies further significant change.

I didn't mind Kayla not telling Finn or the cops right away either. She knows how dangerous Ava is and that Steve has been dragged into that mess so she probably wanted to wait until she knew more before acting. As soon as she learned Steve was with Ava, she wanted to call Roman. It made sense IMO.

All in all, I feel each episode is progress in terms of eliminating the garbage Higley put on screen. It will likely take the rest of sweeps to get rid of the bulk of it but whatever. I feel each episode is showing improvement so it's at least going in the right direction. It didn't get horrible overnight and it won't get great overnight either.
You may be right in the small changes we're seeing today and I'm hopeful. But what a mess to clean up and salvage.
The whole Stefano murder/cover-up, the Steve/Ava/Kayla storyline and the never-ending Daniel worshiping reeks of Higley. All the good that was accomplished in the fall, in terms of character & storyline development went down the tube in less than 2 months. Let's hope Higley's "leave of absence" is PERMANENT! DAYS definitely doesn't need recycled stories that failed previously and somehow I think the actors are not enjoying them either.
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I haven't watched yet, but reading from the recaps I'm so ticked off that Chabby were barely on. This was the one day this week they were suppose to be on besides the dream episode on Friday. Just frustrating.
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Feb 8 2016, 03:40 PM
Lovejm
Feb 8 2016, 03:35 PM
Today definitely sounded like there was movement to the Hope Rafe reveal and maybe a direction change for the Ava story. Which is good news. I do agree with someone who mentioned it may take a few more weeks until sweeps ends to wrap this stuff up.

I'm also still hoping Chad and Abby elope. Every day it seems less likely a wedding in Salem happens.
I don't think a wedding going to happen....its all about drama. I can just picture somebody interrupting the wedding or something and Abby freaks out.. All down hill from there.

Where is the romance? Def. not at days. 🙄
I'm very disappointed in the lack of romance. It is nonexistent right now and the Valentine's episode isn't even real.

Personally I think they really dropped the ball with Chad and Abby. They should be getting huge romance now and it's anvil central and reduced airtime instead.

It's almost like they don't know what to do with happy couples. I'd bet we barely see J&M until things go haywire for them with the assassins. Which again is fine considering how bad the writing is now.
Edited by Lovejm, Feb 8 2016, 03:56 PM.
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Feb 8 2016, 03:53 PM
I haven't watched yet, but reading from the recaps I'm so ticked off that Chabby were barely on. This was the one day this week they were suppose to be on besides the dream episode on Friday. Just frustrating.
its like they are filler material, I can see it now after June I won't be watching Days outside of chabby there is nothing holding my interest.
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Kiki
Feb 8 2016, 02:41 PM
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Feb 8 2016, 01:52 PM
PetrovaSalvatore
Feb 8 2016, 12:09 PM
What is it with Abigail and fiancé's who keep wanting to elope?
Well for Chad he has to think back to their past. Abby broke up with him because she was hot for Austin; then she broke up with him over his lie to Cameron & told Chad she wouldn't have picked him, she would have chosen Cameron; she went on sleep with his engaged brother & then chose Ben over him just 6 months ago. Now add in his issues with Andre, wanting to live in the house & a missing father & he's a smart man to push to elope.
These are highlights but there were extenuating circumstances. I think Abby only chose Ben because she thought he was Thomas' father and she clearly wanted Chad to be the father even then, given her reaction to the original paternity results.

As far as Cameron, I think she was trying to hurt Chad even though she loved him because she was hurt that he had been underhanded.

The first time Chabby dated, I don't think either was especially serious or invested. He was attracted to Melanie and she was attracted to Austin.

As for EJ, I have nothing. She was lonely, but come on.

That said, Chad would be crazy not to want to elope given the current climate. Abby should look around and see that he's right. People can see how much they love each other once they are married.

Ben only wanted to elope to get her away from Chad.

The first time Chabby dated, it was more Chad itching to break up so he could swap tongues with Melanie. Abby had a big-time crush on Austin and was obsessive, sort of what we just watched with Joey and Ava. She then came to her senses that it was misguided. Yes, Chabby have had their ups and downs but their love has endured. I don't know what long-term relationship on a soap isn't complicated and messy.
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Feb 8 2016, 02:41 PM
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Feb 8 2016, 01:52 PM
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Feb 8 2016, 12:09 PM
What is it with Abigail and fiancé's who keep wanting to elope?
Well for Chad he has to think back to their past. Abby broke up with him because she was hot for Austin; then she broke up with him over his lie to Cameron & told Chad she wouldn't have picked him, she would have chosen Cameron; she went on sleep with his engaged brother & then chose Ben over him just 6 months ago. Now add in his issues with Andre, wanting to live in the house & a missing father & he's a smart man to push to elope.
These are highlights but there were extenuating circumstances. I think Abby only chose Ben because she thought he was Thomas' father and she clearly wanted Chad to be the father even then, given her reaction to the original paternity results.

As far as Cameron, I think she was trying to hurt Chad even though she loved him because she was hurt that he had been underhanded.

The first time Chabby dated, I don't think either was especially serious or invested. He was attracted to Melanie and she was attracted to Austin.

As for EJ, I have nothing. She was lonely, but come on.

That said, Chad would be crazy not to want to elope given the current climate. Abby should look around and see that he's right. People can see how much they love each other once they are married.

Ben only wanted to elope to get her away from Chad.

I get the extenuating circumstances, but she still chose Ben over Chad. She knew she loved Chad, she could have just co-parented her child with Ben, but she chose to move in with him & accept his proposal. And that was after Chad poured his heart out to her more than once.


And it was Cameron's text that we saw Abby crying over on NYE 2013, not Chad's. Then she slept with EJ the next day. It doesn't matter if she was lonely, she still slept with Chad's big brother. It obviously hurt Chad that she did that or he wouldn't have been so awful to her when he returned.








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Feb 8 2016, 03:53 PM
I haven't watched yet, but reading from the recaps I'm so ticked off that Chabby were barely on. This was the one day this week they were suppose to be on besides the dream episode on Friday. Just frustrating.
I get the frustration, but with the shit that's airing now, I think they're dodging a bullet by getting little airtime at this point.
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Feb 8 2016, 03:35 PM
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Feb 8 2016, 02:57 PM
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Feb 8 2016, 02:47 PM

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You're probably right about Steve's reaction. Damn, that would have been disgusting to see him consoling her. Big ups to the person who may have rewritten that.

I think the whole, "never sensed a plan" applies to the whole story. And that's why the overall writing of it has been so messy.
I pretty much agree, although I think there were a few hints from the start of what the writers were committed to in this story... Steve and Kayla needed to be together for the story, Ava was going to sleep with someone, and Joey was going to play a major role (one that I don't think has played out yet, although I've been wrong about a lot). The exact how/what/why to accomplish that has felt more haphazard.
True. And for all we know, that's largely the extent of the notes Dena gave the breakdown and script people: Put S&K back together, have Ava sleep with someone, and shove Joey in there somehow.

Lysie has said a few times that is kind of Dena's style, and it would explain why some things have felt so nonsensical and slapped together.
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It is interesting because I feel like the lack of Chad/Abby may be because the brainwashing stuff was supposed to go on longer. We know BF hated it and maybe that story was easy for Griffith to influence/end while the others weren't. I mean,we know Griffith was still there and just because he didn't have the kind of influence he had in Fall doesn't mean he wasn't doing anything. I could see him getting his way there and Higley probably being ok with it because they had gotten to the point where they needed to move Belle into the Philip story anyway so they no longer had to have Belle involved with Chad to give her something to do. It was probably a way for Dena to get her way on other stories by tossing Griffith a bone with the Chad/Abby stuff (just like Griffith would throw Higley the occasional bone in the Fall whenever there was a Justin/Adrienne/Lucas episode or some Rafe/Hope pushing and such). Griffith wrote a ton for them in the Fall so I can see him being really protective of that and pushing to at least get a hold of that and I think it's obvious he did because once we got beyond the brainwashing, they no longer seemed to get the same crap writing as everyone else.

Every writer has their own style and feel and you can easily tell what is Higley and what isn't.
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You know I think Billy Flynn is a great actor and has brought the role of Chad to life for me, but I have realize I do need to have a romance to keep my interest, because although his non romance scenes are good, the romance is where you see the heart of Chad come shining through. I watch soaps for romance so I always have to have a underline romance in a story to keep my interest.
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

I'm not interested in this Theo/Ciara/Chase triangle but Ciara and Theo did give me some sparks today!! Their chemistry is stronger than Chase and Ciara's.

But as much as I don't care I still prefer this to Shawn/Belle/Philip round 462!!
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