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Monday, February 8th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 7 2016, 08:39 AM (14,716 Views)
Ocean
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Poor Steve has sex with Ava for nothing and he has to pay the price. Damn he was so good telling Eva there's nothing to tie us anymor and going back to love of his life his sweetness Kayla Brady Johnson. Yay. :rockon:
Edited by Ocean, Feb 8 2016, 10:01 PM.
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Feb 8 2016, 05:33 PM
Run Theo. I don't know but Ciara and Chase annoy me.

Abe just you wait until you find out what Hope and Rafe have done.

Abby, you should know better how weddings don't go off in Salem. Run for the hills with Chad and Thomas.

This Hope and Rafe storyline is wearing on me.

Please someone kill Ava and get her off my screen. I hope she is leaving soon. I don't want to have to endure months of this back and forth with will Kayla find out about Steve sleeping with Ava. I just wonder what new stunt the witch is going to pull?
I agree about Abby...just elope and have the big wedding later. Lol
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Feb 8 2016, 05:37 PM
Ocean
Feb 8 2016, 05:22 PM
My thoughts of today's show I should say wow, what an exciting show was today and most of all we didn't hear Dr Tan's name which is a bonus.I loved every minute of it,especially with Kayla/Joey, Steve, Abe, Andre and Chabby scenes. Lani was boring as usual just like Hope, Rafe and Ciara/Chase and Dr Tanfynn .
I thought today was dreadful! I fell asleep twice and that's with ffwd all the Hope, Rafe and Ciara scenes. The second time I fell asleep while I was ffwd and ended up having to go back and try and figure out where I had stopped. Afterwards I was sorry that I even bothered.

Really? That's ok you have different opinion and I do respect your thoughts,but For me I enjoyed it so much. sometimes I get frustrated or upset but not today. :D
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Feb 8 2016, 03:41 PM
OMG. TB was awful in that last scene. Talk about over the top.

Poor Chad, he already know if Hope murdered Steffi, it's going to come between him and Abby.Abby is already jumping to Hope's defense. Hence why he wants to elope.

Not interested in a Theo/Ciara/Chase triangle.

Sick of Andre.
I agree with you except I'm sick of Hope and Rafe. Without Hope, I don't think Andre would be on, not sure about Rafe. Only people involved in any way shape or form with Hope seem to be getting decent airtime.
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Bellarke <3

Ocean
Feb 8 2016, 05:40 PM
Poor Steve has sex with was raped by Ava for nothing and he has to pay the price. Damn he was so good telling Ava there's nothing to tie us anymore and going back to live his life his sweetness Kayla Brady Johnson. Yay. :rockon:
Fixed.
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Feb 8 2016, 05:57 PM
Ocean
Feb 8 2016, 05:40 PM
Poor Steve has sex with was raped by Ava for nothing and he has to pay the price. Damn he was so good telling Ava there's nothing to tie us anymore and going back to live his life his sweetness Kayla Brady Johnson. Yay. :rockon:
Fixed.
Lol.
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Feb 8 2016, 02:24 PM
Rafe's confrontation with Andre was dumb. I absolutely hate that Andre has the upper hand because for once he's right about his suspicions. They have to undo Hope's murder of Stefano ... I don't know how but it has to be done. I'm holding on a thin thread that someone Stefano orchestrated all of this and he'll make his big comeback and explain how he had to make it look like how Hope killed him because he feared that Andre was going to do him in ... and he wanted Andre to go after Hope hoping it would lead to his imprisonment ... I know it's a long shot but they can't leave it like this.

I just don't care about Chase and Ciara's drama ... I liked Theo but this drivel is dragging him down too. Sigh.

And I'm 100% convinced after watching today's episode that Chad and Abby's wedding isn't going to happen. Maybe Chad and a recast Abby will wed once TPTB determine whether the recast has chemistry with Billy Flynn or not. Too many anvils ... they might as well have had a neon sign flashing in the Horton living room - No wedding! No wedding! No wedding!

Poor Kayla, she knows there's more that went on than Joey's telling her but she can't get her son to spill.

I really hope this is the end of Ava's baby possibly with Steve as the father ... It's sad that a baby died but this was a dumb storyline from the get go. Unfortunately I'm also sure we haven't seen the last of Ava as yet. She's going to cause as much trouble as she can before she leaves town.

Um Hope, follow that thread you had ... if Andre got into the house and took the gun, what else did he do. Start looking for a camera or a listening device for heaven's sake! You're a cop, follow your instincts for once.
Rafe was SO stupid to go over and confront Andre. Sadly, stupid is about all I expect from him though. He was SO arrogant and smug about it too even though Andre was 100% right.
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Feb 8 2016, 06:51 PM
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Feb 8 2016, 02:24 PM
Rafe's confrontation with Andre was dumb. I absolutely hate that Andre has the upper hand because for once he's right about his suspicions. They have to undo Hope's murder of Stefano ... I don't know how but it has to be done. I'm holding on a thin thread that someone Stefano orchestrated all of this and he'll make his big comeback and explain how he had to make it look like how Hope killed him because he feared that Andre was going to do him in ... and he wanted Andre to go after Hope hoping it would lead to his imprisonment ... I know it's a long shot but they can't leave it like this.

I just don't care about Chase and Ciara's drama ... I liked Theo but this drivel is dragging him down too. Sigh.

And I'm 100% convinced after watching today's episode that Chad and Abby's wedding isn't going to happen. Maybe Chad and a recast Abby will wed once TPTB determine whether the recast has chemistry with Billy Flynn or not. Too many anvils ... they might as well have had a neon sign flashing in the Horton living room - No wedding! No wedding! No wedding!

Poor Kayla, she knows there's more that went on than Joey's telling her but she can't get her son to spill.

I really hope this is the end of Ava's baby possibly with Steve as the father ... It's sad that a baby died but this was a dumb storyline from the get go. Unfortunately I'm also sure we haven't seen the last of Ava as yet. She's going to cause as much trouble as she can before she leaves town.

Um Hope, follow that thread you had ... if Andre got into the house and took the gun, what else did he do. Start looking for a camera or a listening device for heaven's sake! You're a cop, follow your instincts for once.
Rafe was SO stupid to go over and confront Andre. Sadly, stupid is about all I expect from him though. He was SO arrogant and smug about it too even though Andre was 100% right.
That is totally how Higley has always written Rafe. It's why I have usually despised the character. When I came back to watching the series, he was threatening and abusing Anna, yet he was supposed to be the hero. It was nauseating.

ETA: Let me add that it might have worked if there had been some recognition of the hypocrisy in the disconnect between Rafe's smug attitude and his conduct, but nobody seemed to notice.
Edited by jwsel, Feb 8 2016, 07:10 PM.
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Feb 8 2016, 07:09 PM
wallflower
Feb 8 2016, 06:51 PM
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Feb 8 2016, 02:24 PM
Rafe's confrontation with Andre was dumb. I absolutely hate that Andre has the upper hand because for once he's right about his suspicions. They have to undo Hope's murder of Stefano ... I don't know how but it has to be done. I'm holding on a thin thread that someone Stefano orchestrated all of this and he'll make his big comeback and explain how he had to make it look like how Hope killed him because he feared that Andre was going to do him in ... and he wanted Andre to go after Hope hoping it would lead to his imprisonment ... I know it's a long shot but they can't leave it like this.

I just don't care about Chase and Ciara's drama ... I liked Theo but this drivel is dragging him down too. Sigh.

And I'm 100% convinced after watching today's episode that Chad and Abby's wedding isn't going to happen. Maybe Chad and a recast Abby will wed once TPTB determine whether the recast has chemistry with Billy Flynn or not. Too many anvils ... they might as well have had a neon sign flashing in the Horton living room - No wedding! No wedding! No wedding!

Poor Kayla, she knows there's more that went on than Joey's telling her but she can't get her son to spill.

I really hope this is the end of Ava's baby possibly with Steve as the father ... It's sad that a baby died but this was a dumb storyline from the get go. Unfortunately I'm also sure we haven't seen the last of Ava as yet. She's going to cause as much trouble as she can before she leaves town.

Um Hope, follow that thread you had ... if Andre got into the house and took the gun, what else did he do. Start looking for a camera or a listening device for heaven's sake! You're a cop, follow your instincts for once.
Rafe was SO stupid to go over and confront Andre. Sadly, stupid is about all I expect from him though. He was SO arrogant and smug about it too even though Andre was 100% right.
That is totally how Higley has always written Rafe. It's why I have usually despised the character. When I came back to watching the series, he was threatening and abusing Anna, yet he was supposed to be the hero. It was nauseating.

ETA: Let me add that it might have worked if there had been some recognition of the hypocrisy in the disconnect between Rafe's smug attitude and his conduct, but nobody seemed to notice.
I couldn't stand Higley Rafe - I was surprised how much I enjoyed Mar Dar Rafe.

Also surprised when I watched one of the web series and how enjoyable he was in that.

Liked most of TomSell Rafe too.


Although I did like Fafe.
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I thought Chase had overheard about Stefano's murder from recaps. Just watched, and whether he did or did not isn't at all clear.

I need Chad & Abby to set their wedding for the last week of February/first week of March because I wannnnttttt the Stefano murder cover-up story to be finished by then, lol. I wish *sigh* It's probably going to be closer to May sweeps. Yeah, that Chad & Abby wedding is definitely not happening. It'll just be an event for events to happen at (my guesses: Chase and/or Andre will do something crazy, Hope will probably confess, something will make Abby snap, Ben will be back, eta: oh, yeah, pain killer addicted Jennifer will probably be adding to the wedding day action!). I like that Chad is finally accepting that Hope may have snapped and done it. Chad is probably the only one that knows Aiden's murder attempt of Hope was on Andre. There needs to be something to level Andre off a bit regarding revenge on Hope and that could be it if Chad chooses to use it.


Edited by AngelaP, Feb 8 2016, 07:32 PM.
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I loved Rafe and Andre squaring off. I think Andre is hilarious. He's totally outplayed Rafe and Hope. But, I thought Rafe did a great job keeping his cool. He didn't give anything up or fold. My big concern is how do the writers pull Rafe and Hope out of the pickle they've placed them in. Now we have Chad and Abby talking about Hope and whether she could cross that line, Abe and Lani discussing her possible guilt, Ciara wondering. It's not just an ongoing battle between Rope vs Andre. Others are weighing in on their integrity. Did the writers think of how to redeem Hope and Rafe when they first set them on this path? I certainly hope they did because it sucks to see them written in a corner stuck there.

Are you going to tell me Rafe and Hope aren't going to sweep for bugs?!

Lani is so annoying. I really dislike pretty much everything about her.

Chase needs to be in counseling. He's acting out with the bullying and it frustrates me Hope hasn't set something up for him immediately with Marlena. I hope that's to come. I have to say Andre befriending Chase is a pretty smart move on his part. He's going to be easy to manipulate right now.

Chad's moving Abby into the mansion to begin their family life. Abby agrees with the plan. No wait. Chad is going to elope and take an extended honeymoon to get away from Andre's influence. Abby seems unsure about everything. ??? This story feels in flux. I want more than we are getting.

I have no sympathy for Ava. I have no interest in this story. I think Joey looks stoned half the time. I hate the gaped mouth. I also hate ragging on a newbie kid, but he's so weak.

I need them to write Ciara some sassy lines. She should be a pistol, full of attitude. Help the girl out if you are keeping her on.


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Oh look a repeat scene of Rafe and Andre and a long flashback sequence for Kayla and Joey. Looks like more cuts
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I really didn't need or want to see flashbacks of Steve and Ava.

Lani is awful. Get someone for the part who can act.
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Rafe is insufferable again. I hope Andre ruins him.
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#SorryNotSorry

First show for me in a while. Not terrible. Joey's reaction actually made more sense than I was thinking it might. I hope they play it out from here for a while, and don't have him turn on a dime when Steve gets back to town. Being protective of the single mom who raised him is where this story should have started in the first place.

With Kayla talking about pressing charges, Steve should have at least tried to put the fear of prosecution in Ava to keep her away from Salem. This storyline has been a mess, but at least it's pretty clear what he's thinking and feeling right now.

I didn't think Ava's breakdown was bad exactly, but I didn't feel anything except the guilty thought that the kid is better off.

I missed the context for the Chad/Abby and Rafe/Andre scenes, but I'll catch up. Ciara and Theo were cute.
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More flashbacks. What is going on today?
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Andre is really wiping the floor with Rafe today. Are we supposed to buy them as rivals?
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Thank you JCP.

Can you imagine the kind of mother she would have been, she would have used him to plot against her enemies.
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Feb 8 2016, 08:12 PM
I loved Rafe and Andre squaring off. I think Andre is hilarious. He's totally outplayed Rafe and Hope. But, I thought Rafe did a great job keeping his cool. He didn't give anything up or fold. My big concern is how do the writers pull Rafe and Hope out of the pickle they've placed them in. Now we have Chad and Abby talking about Hope and whether she could cross that line, Abe and Lani discussing her possible guilt, Ciara wondering. It's not just an ongoing battle between Rope vs Andre. Others are weighing in on their integrity. Did the writers think of how to redeem Hope and Rafe when they first set them on this path? I certainly hope they did because it sucks to see them written in a corner stuck there.

Are you going to tell me Rafe and Hope aren't going to sweep for bugs?!

Lani is so annoying. I really dislike pretty much everything about her.

Chase needs to be in counseling. He's acting out with the bullying and it frustrates me Hope hasn't set something up for him immediately with Marlena. I hope that's to come. I have to say Andre befriending Chase is a pretty smart move on his part. He's going to be easy to manipulate right now.

Chad's moving Abby into the mansion to begin their family life. Abby agrees with the plan. No wait. Chad is going to elope and take an extended honeymoon to get away from Andre's influence. Abby seems unsure about everything. ??? This story feels in flux. I want more than we are getting.




Hope, Chase and Ciara ALL need to be in counseling. (Along with Abby ... and now Jennifer). I remember Marlena being eager to get to the Horton Christmas (for customers) and that being dropped.

So much word on the sweeping for bugs.

Redemption.

Hope realizing she has to confess goes a long way to redemption but it needs to happen sooner than later. I get covering for a period, you have the prospect of leaving your family more vulnerable than ever if you do the right thing after snapping and doing the wrong thing (AND you have Rafe being a bad influence). I don't see how you get to redemption IF you don't have her falling her own sword so to speak and doing it closer to spring than to summer. Add some Jail/Sanitarium time where you rewind to November/December and go through the beats in an improved way.

Rafe is in a rougher position even though he didn't commit the murder. He's a cop with no respect for the law who is feeling no type of conflict about that (for the THIRD time?). Keep him in jail for a nice chunk of time. End the career as a cop. New path him when he gets out.

Abigail seems like a shell of herself which may mean they're returning to where they left off in December before it was taken to the brainwashing story. She should have been and should be affected by what happened. Better late than never.

Edited by AngelaP, Feb 8 2016, 08:47 PM.
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Feb 8 2016, 08:45 PM
Andre is really wiping the floor with Rafe today. Are we supposed to buy them as rivals?
I don't know, but I still can't stand Andre.
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