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Topic Started: Feb 8 2016, 01:29 AM (76,593 Views)
Mitchapalooza
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lysie
Feb 9 2016, 03:57 PM
am103
Feb 9 2016, 03:53 PM
Yeah, that article is definitely confusing. I thought NBC/Corday was responsible for the large tape-to-air gap because of how cost-effective it is? It seems odd that they'd now be the ones calling for a smaller gap. I certainly wouldn't complain if that happened though!

I wanna know how long Days' pending renewal is for. I hope somebody makes a statement soon.
They had to adapt that model when NBC changed the licensing fee. So unless NBC has decided to give them more money to work with (yeah...right) then that doesn't make sense at all. As mentioned yesterday, the licensing fee is probably the hold up again, and they're probably trying to figure out how to manage any changes without doing what they did last time. And changing the production model isn't the only thing they did.
Well maybe Sony is leveraging another shows rights with NBC to get a DAYS renewal...we know Sony used COMMUNITY as leverage to get the DAYS renewal with NBC last time.
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Jasminemg
Feb 9 2016, 04:15 PM
What is really sad is that I'm so much more interested in this drama than what is airing.
this has pretty much been the case for this show for the last 5-7 years running...the BTS antics is more entertaining and shocking than what is being produced for air.
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Jason47
Feb 9 2016, 10:58 PM
urbanlegend
Feb 9 2016, 10:36 PM
Sindacco
Feb 9 2016, 10:14 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deepThey could always just simply slow down the rate at which they tape - switch to 5 episodes per week as opposed to 8 or 9
My guess is you have to pay your crew and maybe actors a lot less if they tape multiple episodes in one day rather than paying them a day's salary every time you tape an episode on a different date?
You get paid per episode, not for how many days it takes to tape an episode. Alexander Bruszt, for example, gets $1,000 per episode (info thanks to the contest rules), which is close to the SAG-AFTRA minimum for a principal role. Doesn't matter if he tapes scenes for the same episode over four days or all in the same day.

The crew, as mentioned above, however gets paid per day. So that's where the bulk of the money is saved with the quicker taping schedule.

Taping 7.5 episodes per week over the course of 36 weeks, as opposed to taping 5 episodes per week over the course of 48-49 weeks, saves a lot of money, since the crew gets paid per day, not per episode.
Right, the savings is in the crew costs not the cast costs....cast is paid regardless of this taping schedule....the only thing they can control cast wise is negotiating what they pay each actor per episode, which I am sure has become the norm for DAYS actors.
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Mitchapalooza
Feb 10 2016, 12:53 PM
Jasminemg
Feb 9 2016, 04:15 PM
What is really sad is that I'm so much more interested in this drama than what is airing.
this has pretty much been the case for this show for the last 5-7 years running...the BTS antics is more entertaining and shocking than what is being produced for air.
To keep us entertained, maybe we need a thread on BTS antics. (Hint, hint) ;)
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Feb 10 2016, 12:44 PM
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Feb 9 2016, 12:44 PM
Hamilton
Feb 9 2016, 09:28 AM

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I find her scripts overrated, back in 2013 there was this big hype that she was the best writer to ever hit Days. Aside from that, she annoys me. There have been time periods when she has acted like the show was called "EJami of our Lives". She hangs out with people who hate the show.

As for David Cherrill, he has really stepped up his game after Josh and Dena replaced TomSell.

My favorites are the Cullitons.
SO MUCH THIS!

Melissa Salmons is the most overrated writer by a fucking mile...her scripts have been pure shit for a while now. If there are writers out, I hope she is one of them....her and David Cherill and of course Mark Higley.
I'm not familiar enough with the writing styles of the various break-down/script writers to comment specifically on who should go/stay, but ITA - Mark Higley needs to be one of the ones shown the door. The less influence Dena has on ANY aspect of Days, the better.
Edited by No1_ILoveLucyFan, Feb 10 2016, 01:06 PM.
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Mitchapalooza
Feb 10 2016, 12:44 PM
Sindacco
Feb 9 2016, 12:44 PM
Hamilton
Feb 9 2016, 09:28 AM

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I find her scripts overrated, back in 2013 there was this big hype that she was the best writer to ever hit Days. Aside from that, she annoys me. There have been time periods when she has acted like the show was called "EJami of our Lives". She hangs out with people who hate the show.

As for David Cherrill, he has really stepped up his game after Josh and Dena replaced TomSell.

My favorites are the Cullitons.
SO MUCH THIS!

Melissa Salmons is the most overrated writer by a fucking mile...her scripts have been pure shit for a while now. If there are writers out, I hope she is one of them....her and David Cherill and of course Mark Higley.
I agree about Melissa. Her scripts have just...not been good since the writing switch. If yesterday's episode was any indication, I think she's guilty of writing a lot of character propping dialogue. Super annoying. I was just looking a Jason's site, and I'm surprised that Melissa Salmons has only been at Days since 2012. I thought she had a longer history with Days.

If they go by "last in, first out," here's how the longevity shakes out. (Some of these writers have left and come back, but if the base it on when they last came back...).

Newest hire - oldest hire:
1. Mark Higley (2015)
2. Danielle Paige (2015)
3. David Cherrill (2013)
4. Melissa Salmons (2012)
5. Jeanne Marie Ford (2012)
6. Carolyn Culiton (2010)
7. Richard Culiton (2008)

So, say they cut three writers and went by longevity of their last hiring date: Higley, Paige, and Cherrill would likely be the ones to go. I wouldn't mind losing Higley and Cherrill, but I think Paige has been pretty solid with her scripts.

Now, say they want to clear out all remnants of the hires during Tomsell's tenure. Then, Cherrill, Salmons, and Ford would be the more likely candidates.
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Hugo
Feb 10 2016, 12:02 PM
Mitchapalooza
Feb 10 2016, 11:59 AM
granolagirl
Feb 8 2016, 08:21 PM
GH has cut its budget and shooting schedule over the past few years as well, although it's not as dramatic as DAYS. I think they shoot five shows in four days, or something like that (?).

I think in the end, NBC is going to keep lowballing the license fee, even when DAYS increases its ratings year over year. At some point the show just won't be able to do it.
I think they can totally do it....but they would need to seriously purge the cast and bring the contract based down to 15-20 actors only.
That would mean cutting more than half the cast since they currently have 40 contract players, I don't think they would need to go that far.
I doubt they would need to go that far either...but if they had to I think it would still work....both B&B and Y&R have way smaller contract casts than DAYS and GH...this makes no sense to me....Y&R/B&B have higher ratings and higher budgets.
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Feb 10 2016, 01:06 PM
Mitchapalooza
Feb 10 2016, 12:44 PM
Sindacco
Feb 9 2016, 12:44 PM

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SO MUCH THIS!

Melissa Salmons is the most overrated writer by a fucking mile...her scripts have been pure shit for a while now. If there are writers out, I hope she is one of them....her and David Cherill and of course Mark Higley.
I'm not familiar enough with the writing styles of the various break-down/script writers to comment specifically on who should go/stay, but ITA - Mark Higley needs to be one of the ones shown the door. The less influence Dena has on ANY aspect of Days, the better.
I don't even think MH scripts are half bad...but I want him out JUST for the fact that he is associated with Dena Higley...that may sound incredibly unfair...but I give no fucks for MH.
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No1_ILoveLucyFan
Feb 10 2016, 01:06 PM
Mitchapalooza
Feb 10 2016, 12:44 PM
Sindacco
Feb 9 2016, 12:44 PM

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SO MUCH THIS!

Melissa Salmons is the most overrated writer by a fucking mile...her scripts have been pure shit for a while now. If there are writers out, I hope she is one of them....her and David Cherill and of course Mark Higley.
I'm not familiar enough with the writing styles of the various break-down/script writers to comment specifically on who should go/stay, but ITA - Mark Higley needs to be one of the ones shown the door. The less influence Dena has on ANY aspect of Days, the better.
I like Mark Higley's scripts. Poor guy doesn't deserve to be bashed because of his wife :blulaugh: .
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cord08
Feb 10 2016, 01:07 PM
Mitchapalooza
Feb 10 2016, 12:44 PM
Sindacco
Feb 9 2016, 12:44 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
SO MUCH THIS!

Melissa Salmons is the most overrated writer by a fucking mile...her scripts have been pure shit for a while now. If there are writers out, I hope she is one of them....her and David Cherill and of course Mark Higley.
I agree about Melissa. Her scripts have just...not been good since the writing switch. If yesterday's episode was any indication, I think she's guilty of writing a lot of character propping dialogue. Super annoying. I was just looking a Jason's site, and I'm surprised that Melissa Salmons has only been at Days since 2012. I thought she had a longer history with Days.

If they go by "last in, first out," here's how the longevity shakes out. (Some of these writers have left and come back, but if the base it on when they last came back...).

Newest hire - oldest hire:
1. Mark Higley (2015)
2. Danielle Paige (2015)
3. David Cherrill (2013)
4. Melissa Salmons (2012)
5. Jeanne Marie Ford (2012)
6. Carolyn Culiton (2010)
7. Richard Culiton (2008)

So, say they cut three writers and went by longevity of their last hiring date: Higley, Paige, and Cherrill would likely be the ones to go. I wouldn't mind losing Higley and Cherrill, but I think Paige has been pretty solid with her scripts.

Now, say they want to clear out all remnants of the hires during Tomsell's tenure. Then, Cherrill, Salmons, and Ford would be the more likely candidates.
Salmons has been in a decline for a while, even before the writing switch....she had a few shittier writers to hide behind though under the old headwriting team (Janet Iacobuzio ect)...now that some of those writers have been fired, her crap scripts are finally being exposed IMO.
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thepadange
Feb 10 2016, 01:12 PM
No1_ILoveLucyFan
Feb 10 2016, 01:06 PM
Mitchapalooza
Feb 10 2016, 12:44 PM

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I'm not familiar enough with the writing styles of the various break-down/script writers to comment specifically on who should go/stay, but ITA - Mark Higley needs to be one of the ones shown the door. The less influence Dena has on ANY aspect of Days, the better.
I like Mark Higley's scripts. Poor guy doesn't deserve to be bashed because of his wife :blulaugh: .
If you are that stupid to marry a crazy, self-serving, maniacal bitch like Dena Higley then.....lol I'm just kidding...he doesn't deserve it...but at the same time, I still want him out. :flipoff:

Edited by Mitchapalooza, Feb 10 2016, 01:13 PM.
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I wish we knew which breakdown writer wrote what episode (like we know scriptwriters). I think the problem might be there (or as stated earlier Dena has problems communicating with breakdown writers).
Edited by thepadange, Feb 10 2016, 01:21 PM.
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frivolity
Feb 10 2016, 01:02 PM
Mitchapalooza
Feb 10 2016, 12:53 PM
Jasminemg
Feb 9 2016, 04:15 PM
What is really sad is that I'm so much more interested in this drama than what is airing.
this has pretty much been the case for this show for the last 5-7 years running...the BTS antics is more entertaining and shocking than what is being produced for air.
To keep us entertained, maybe we need a thread on BTS antics. (Hint, hint) ;)
I'm pretty sure we had one a couple months ago. I think we went through most of the BTS drama and ran out of new info. :)
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thepadange
Feb 10 2016, 05:10 AM
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Feb 10 2016, 02:47 AM
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Feb 10 2016, 02:00 AM

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Good question!

Since 2009, the show's roughly gotten one month ahead, on average, each year. So, based on that, it would stand to reason that for every 12 months an actor works, the episodes are airing over a 13 month span.

Molly Burnett's a good example to look at, since she joined the show in June 2008, just before the changes in production started in Feb. 2009. She left after her 4 years was up in June 2012, but because the new taping schedule was in place, she kept airing until September 2012. So, based on that, she did exactly four years of taping, but aired for 4 years, 3 months.

If you break up her four years into these cycles, then it sort of worked out that way, with each year she worked accounting for about 13 months of airdates on the show.

So, a rough estimate shows she had perhaps a 2.5 guarantee the first year, then upped to 3.5 guarantee for her second and third year, and then cut down to around a 2 guarantee for her final year.

132 (7/08-7/09)
183 (8/09-8/10)
165 (9/10-9/11)
110 (10/11-9/12)

Thank you.
It seems that Eileen Davidson's contract (2012) was for one year of taping (plus one additional week the show asked for) as well (airing 13+ months).

10/11/12-11/13/13. So, yes, that fits that time frame perfectly. One year of taping = 13 months of airing (plus the pre-taped video scene episode in December).
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Feb 10 2016, 05:10 AM
But..... we heard that Kate Mansi left in December but according to Billy Flynn her contract was up several months ago, and she agreed to stay on the show only to wrap her story up. It's a little bit confusing because she started in December.
Checking the DR archives, Kate Mansi's signing was announced here on 12/1/10, so she must have signed a few weeks earlier in November 2010, and then stayed an extra month until 12/16/15.
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nananana7
Feb 10 2016, 05:20 AM
Are the "episode guarantees" set for the taping period or the airing period?

If an actor is guaranteed an average of 3 episodes per week over a year ...
is that a year of taping or a year of airing?
They've been taping about 13 months of air shows over every 12 month period, so my guess would be is it's for the taping period, not airing period. We can use the Alexander Bruszt contract as an example. It says he is guaranteed a minimum of 13 episodes at $13,000 for each 13-week cycle (up to 4 cycles). To me, that would mean he's guaranteed to appear in 13 episodes over a 13-week taping period (not airing period).
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nananana7
Feb 10 2016, 06:39 AM
Bo died Friday Nov 20th, with the death replayed on Mon Nov 23rd.

What were PR's scenes from Nov 24 - Dec 2nd?

Were they all "Hope's subconscious revenge"???

or were there any actual flashbacks from when Bo was alive?
For any episodes I credited Peter for (or anyone else), they appear in new material. If it was just flashbacks, I would just list him as FB and not count it an airdate.
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Feb 10 2016, 01:50 PM
[twitter=DaysHayes/status/697491724755533824]
I hope we get more Doig and Julie
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nananana7
Feb 10 2016, 07:07 AM
Thanks for all your replies.

So then, according to Jason47, Peter Reckell aired 8/28/15-12/2/15.

Bo's official first air date (as promoted) was Tues Sept 8th.

I remember Friday Aug 28th was just a one-minute (or shorter) scene of Bo lying on the prison floor at the end of the episode. Not sure if his face was shown, maybe just his tattoo -- but enough for viewers to know it was Bo.

But then Bo wasn't seen until Sept 8th -- and he began airing more regularly after that.

Bo's death was Friday Nov 20th, and repeated Monday Nov 23rd.

PR's scenes as SubconsciousHope were were after that -- through Dec 2nd. Thank you for clarifying that PR spoke during some of those scenes.

I suppose I could say that PR's scenes aired Sept 8 - Dec 2nd
(With Aug 28th as a glimpse of his body).

Although he was technically a "U/5" for August 28th, I suppose he got contract pay for that.

What matters is what episodes PR got paid for.
If his contract dates were for the episodes that aired Aug 28-Dec 2, then he did air for more than three months.
Pete was flying out to LA briefly and taping bulks of episodes all at once, and then flying back home. He was not a U/5 for 8/28 (he's listed as Bo). As I said back then, I have the papers for those episodes. He taped his first 6 episodes back all in one day (April 7), which aired 8/28-9/4-9/8-9/9-9/10-9/17. And then we know from an April Blobby that he taped another 5 episodes on a Monday. And then from the Stephen Nichols' tweet in May, he stated that he and Pete taped 7 episodes in 2 days.

Marie Wilson's first airdate was promoted as 2/5, but she actually appeared 2/2. I guess the dates they send Soap Digest are for when you see their face for the first time, but it's not necessarily their actual first airdate.
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