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| SON Reports: DAYS Renewed through September 2017 | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 11 2016, 03:30 PM (16,328 Views) | |
| laurondo | Feb 12 2016, 10:17 PM Post #181 |
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I agree 100%. |
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| laurondo | Feb 12 2016, 10:23 PM Post #182 |
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I don't think Hope would feel anything toward Chase if he raped Ciara besides possible guilt for even letting him continue to live with them when he never needed to in the first place. I don't think she'd hate him because she's grown to see him as her kid, but I'm not sure I'd say her heart would break for him. |
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| DiMera87 | Feb 13 2016, 12:46 AM Post #183 |
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Hope is nothing more than a guardian to Chase. If she feels anything for him, I will be completely disgusted. I think Hope shares some blame for this but c'mon. Ciara is her daughter... |
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| AngelaP | Feb 13 2016, 01:29 AM Post #184 |
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If they write her in character and they write this realistic, Hope's reactions should be multi-layered. Initially, I'm sure she will want to KILL him but she took this person in as a son, she has feelings for him. Hope didn't want to make Chase feel like he was some black mark in life when deep down they both know his presence was probably more of a nightmare than a gift to Hope (the reminder). She's going to feel guilty about that because that's going to come out if the writing is realistic. She's going to question why she fought that feeling (re: Ciara)? and why she couldn't fight that feeling (re: Chase)? She's going to feel guilty she didn't see the signs and get him help. She's going to feel guilty she put him and Ciara in the position where somebody like Andre could or would target them. |
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| Dreamy | Feb 13 2016, 01:52 AM Post #185 |
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Congrats to DAYS, actors/actresses, crews & fans! |
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| Amazee-Dayzee | Feb 13 2016, 02:06 AM Post #186 |
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Hope the storyline is not true. Bad enough they ruined Haidan but now they are fucking up his son? Great job Days. This storyline fucking sucks if its true. I'm sure the people who wanted Chase and Aiden gone just for moving on with Hope are happy. I remember some people wanted Chase gone after his father tried to kill Hope because they wanted all parts of Hope moving on gone. |
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| DOOLette | Feb 13 2016, 03:44 AM Post #187 |
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I think that Days would have been better served by leaving successfully on the crest of a wave instead of being drowned by poor writing and bull shit. |
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| Supergirlx2 | Feb 13 2016, 10:51 AM Post #188 |
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Hope was spared from being raped thanks to Bo & Shawn in 1983. She had gone off with some older guys & she was with them in their hotel room & one of the guys started to get aggressive with her. |
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| lbchatterbox | Feb 13 2016, 11:16 AM Post #189 |
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since were covering this storyline in so many other threads, I'm wondering has there been any actual updates about budget, who or what's been cut with this renewal? |
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| six | Feb 13 2016, 11:36 AM Post #190 |
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It's not Hope's fault, but if you raise a kid, and they screw up, you wonder where you went wrong. Sorasing has thrown the timeline off, but Ciara and Chase talk about knowing each other as kids. Hope has been Chase's mother figure for a large portion of his life, and even without the sorasing, she was his guardian after Aiden's death. I won't blame her for the rape, but she hasn't done the right thing for either one of those kids. They both went through some very traumatic things, but she hasn't offered much in the way of emotional support. I have no idea why in the world you would think anyone would be happy about this. There were ways to write Chase out that didn't involve him hurting Ciara. |
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| frivolity | Feb 13 2016, 11:43 AM Post #191 |
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She also fought off Will, one of Maxwell's henchmen who was "guarding" her, in 1984. Then when Bo ran into Will in 1985, Bo punched him out for trying to rape Hope. |
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| Restless84 | Feb 13 2016, 11:44 AM Post #192 |
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Chase lived with and was raised by his dad up until the Haiden wedding. Hope can feel guilty about it, mainly because she should have done something after finding out Chase had feelings for Ciara. They shouldn't be living in the same house IMO. She shouldn't be caring and concerned for Chase after learning what he raped Ciara nor should her heart be breaking for him. He's not a victim here. Her support should be 100% for Ciara. |
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| six | Feb 13 2016, 11:55 AM Post #193 |
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The four of them were a family unit. And he is a victim; not of Ciara, but he clearly needed help that wasn't provided to him - help that it was Hope's responsibility to provide. This is a complex situation, and it wouldn't be in character for Hope to suddenly act like Chase is some stranger off the street and not a child that she's been partially responsible for. |
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| Restless84 | Feb 13 2016, 12:05 PM Post #194 |
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I disagree and that's about all I have to say about that. |
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| AngelaP | Feb 13 2016, 12:34 PM Post #195 |
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Also, Jude in the shed. She took his eye out. And, Jude in the cabin during the long kidnapping. High fever and a lot of fast talking. Vin Ramsel. Bo made a scene in he hallway and she got out of that one. I will say, though, Stefano falls under rape. He brainwashed her with a computer chip/satellite and then proceeded to do an act with her that he knew dayumwell Hope would have never done with him EVER. That was not treated as rape to any strong degree, but still it happened.
They did have Marlena there to reveal to him what his father did and what that resulted in. Hope, Ciara & Chase all needed to be and IMO still need to be in therapy. You don't just get over what happened when ALL of that happened so abruptly. That's why it has sucked there's been almost no interaction from family and friends since the clock struck December. I do not blame Hope for what Chase will do, but she will feel responsibility for what Chase did and for what happened to Ciara, ultimately. Even if she had made sure he was seeing a therapist (and IMO he wasn't exactly an extreme case in terms of acting out), as a parent you will still question what you could have done different every single step of the way. Due to SORAS, while Aiden did primarily raise the kid separately from Hope/Ciara until he was 16, WE also have him being a part of Hope and Ciara's life since he was 8-9 instead of for just 2 years. You can't just throw away all emotional connection due to the "half life" thing in the picture. It's weird, we're supposed to believe Bo was gone for 3 years but the kids aged 7-8 years in that same time. Edited by AngelaP, Feb 13 2016, 12:37 PM.
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| six | Feb 13 2016, 01:04 PM Post #196 |
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Yes, they did have Marlena come in once, which I thought was great, but they never followed up on it. On the bold; agreed, and she should. I'm not saying she should feel guilty because it's her fault he becomes a rapist, but because that's a normal reaction to have. Hope, Ciara and Chase were all Aiden's victims, and to focus just on Chase for a second, there were points where he was struggling with what Bo did, feeling uncomfortable in the home, wondering if his father had killed his mother, asking Rafe to stay with him because he was having a hard time and Hope wasn't there, etc. Hope clearly isn't in a good place either, and she didn't make the choice to drop the ball, but she did, and that would be true even if Chase didn't become a rapist. I was lobbying for Chase to either move in with relatives, for jarlena to take an interest in him, or for the show to steal someone's suggestion that he be Benji's son, Steven, that way S&K could have taken him in. |
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| frivolity | Feb 13 2016, 01:10 PM Post #197 |
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Oh yeah. Duh. I wasn't watching the show during the incidents you mentioned, but I know about them. Hope was most definitely raped by Stefano. And technically, her sleeping with John while being brainwashed was also rape. So, Hope was the victim of three attempted rapes and two actual rapes. Wow. It's all pretty sick. It's estimated, conservatively, that 1 out of every 6 women in the U.S. are the victim of rape in their lifetime. What would the rate be on Days? 1/1???? |
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| AngelaP | Feb 13 2016, 02:33 PM Post #198 |
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If they really dig into the layers of this from November through the shooting and skip on down to the rape ... it's incredibly rich psychological land to dig into with all three characters. The complete mind---- they've all been through is a feast. The layers between them is a feast. Cover-up until this past week aside, where there was gloss put over all these stories for a period, the core you have here... Chase is essentially questioning if he was born bad due to what his father did to Hope and what he suspects his father may have done to his mother. [He probably remembers he killed his mother or he thought he killed his mother on some subconscious level.] Hope was not able to emotionally connect with him on any level for a good month and a half when he really needed her most - her especially - to look at him and tell him she didn't blame him at all and that he is not his father every single day. Completely innocently, completely innocently, Ciara jumps in and makes a point of playing into his insecurities a little too much. Hope. She was destroyed after the only man she had allowed herself to fall in love with besides Bo betrayed her in the most severe way possible, after losing the love of her life so abruptly ... and, after learning everything she thought was true, every instinct she let herself have for the past year was a complete lie and completely wrong. The level of self loathing, guilt, anger/rage that is inside her from just those things alone. She emotionally disengaged from everybody including those two kids who are her responsibility when they needed her most. She didn't have a choice (mental breakdown) but it happened. Chase, through no fault of his own, is the living embodiment of everything that essentially destroyed Hope but she made the choice to keep him. No matter how good of a person you believe yourself to be, that is a reminder and it's HARD. Then you have her missing small things now as she's trying to physically protect them and not have them lose more because of what she has done to try to find peace and , ironically, protect them. When this rape goes down and comes out, Hope is going to go over all of that on the front of both of those children - why did I? If only I had? Ciara had basically took on the role of trying to "take care" of both Hope (the fear of losing her mother for good physically and/or mentally hanging over her) and Chase (she basically had to be his primary support) when she also had/has to deal with the father figure she trusted almost killing her mother AND her her own father dying abruptly. She's just 16. Next up the rape. While she's caring and understanding, there's anger and resentment there that will eventually explode. |
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| WGuyMd35 | Feb 13 2016, 02:42 PM Post #199 |
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Is this rape story for real or speculation? Cause I can't see the actress playing Ciera pulling this off. |
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| cord08 | Feb 13 2016, 02:46 PM Post #200 |
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It's been indirectly confirmed by a few mods on this board. |
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