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Wednesday, February 17th episode discussion
Topic Started: Feb 16 2016, 07:14 PM (29,113 Views)
DaysFan2009


esp13
Feb 17 2016, 02:30 PM
DaysFan2009
Feb 17 2016, 02:25 PM
esp13
Feb 17 2016, 01:52 PM

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How does anyone know that Chase was not brainwashed or drugged. I found it a little odd that Andre was shoving food at Chase that he didn't touch himself. Just because it didn't happen on screen with a picture tutorial doesn't mean it didn't happen, so brainwashing or some sort of mind control could be a possibility as well. It seems clear to me that Andre is using Chase as a pawn in his revenge scheme. If he can do it to Chad, it shouldn't exactly be a shocker that he would do the same to Chase.
Well, I can only go by what was onscreen. There was no evidence of any drugging. And while Andre was certainly ... making suggestive comments to Chase, there was also no evidence of actual brainwashing (as opposed to Chad where we actually saw the brainwashing).

They could certainly retcon it, or have Chase react afterwards in a way that would suggest he was drugged. But, for right now, I don't have any evidence of either of those things so I don't think that happened. If they wanted to clearly give Chase an "out" they would have shown the drugging or the actual brainwashing. They didn't.
They showed Andre feeding him.....I think those dots could easily be connected. Some of people doing live tweeting today mentioned that Chase looked disoriented when he left Andre. It seems to me that there is just as much reason to think it happened than it didn't. Things frequently happen off screen that make sense later when a story comes full circle. I don't think Days would be very interesting if every little detail was shown on screen so we know exactly how it will play out. Every imposter story etc, has involved things happening off screen that were not revealed until later. There may not be on screen evidence that it happened, but there also is nothing saying it didn't. Having Chase too himself in a room, feeding him food that Andre wanted no part of, repeatedly saying bizarre things to him, & Chase leaving "disoriented" don't seem like random little details to me....just a matter of needing to read between the lines.
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anzu


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Feb 17 2016, 03:09 PM
Hugo
Feb 17 2016, 02:36 PM
I thought Chloe (not Chelsea) raped Billy? Their daughter died and she wanted to have another child from him.

Speaking of Y&R, Kevin raped Lily years ago and they are both still on the show, Kevin is mostly a good guy now. I think Chase can be redeemed but I think the writers are too lazy for that, I bet the rumor of Theo murdering Chase is true.
:facepalm:
But why should he be redeemed? He's not an important character, and he raped a young legacy character. Why can't he just be punished for what he did? The way rapists should be.
I mean.... he isn't a legacy character but he also isn't like... Rory. He's been on the show long enough that people might be concerned about how this ends for chase I think :shrug:
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Hugo


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Feb 17 2016, 03:09 PM
Hugo
Feb 17 2016, 02:36 PM
I thought Chloe (not Chelsea) raped Billy? Their daughter died and she wanted to have another child from him.

Speaking of Y&R, Kevin raped Lily years ago and they are both still on the show, Kevin is mostly a good guy now. I think Chase can be redeemed but I think the writers are too lazy for that, I bet the rumor of Theo murdering Chase is true.
:facepalm:
But why should he be redeemed? He's not an important character, and he raped a young legacy character. Why can't he just be punished for what he did? The way rapists should be.
I want him to be redeemed because I like the actor and I don't think this story should have happened.
If he gets an appropriate punishment for the rape, good, but that's not getting murdered by Theo.
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nananana7
Feb 17 2016, 02:30 PM
Deverauxfan
Feb 17 2016, 02:24 PM
Wasn't he the one who wrote Billy/Chelsea's rapemance?
Do you mean the rapemance between Billy and Chelsea on Y&R that was shown after Victoria and Billy broke up, and while Victoria was dating Stitch?
That was in 2014-2015.
Josh left Y&R in Oct 2013.

I'm not sure who was writing when Chelsea raped Billy in Asia. I wasn't watching back then.
Maria Arena Bell wrote Chelsea raping Billy in Myanmar
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PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

So Sami stole the DiMera money from inside the house?? :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: Once again, DiMera security sucks!!
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Again Steve you had the chance to tell Kayla the full story ... admit that Ava forced you to have sex with her so that Kayla could live ... but yet again you didn't take that chance. I suppose Kayla telling Roman that Ava kidnapped her will play into Ava's hand when she claims Kayla tried to kill her. Sigh, how much longer are we going to have put up with and craziness. Why in the heck don't they pair Andre and Ava ... two full blown crazies who in the end might just end up killing each other. That would tie up things nicely, don't you think?

I don't think Andre was hinting that Chase should force himself on Ciara when he said women like strong men ...but he also said that women like to know you would fight for her and do anything to be with her. Chase obviously took that as he should force himself on Ciara to prove to her that he'd do anything to be with her and that in the end she would like that. I think Chase is just one twisted, very confused young human being ... and they had him cross a line that there is no coming back from. If he does rape Ciara I hope she tells her Mom and that Chase is arrested. I seriously have no idea where they're taking this storyline. If he does rape her I hope she doesn't stay silent and I hope they don't try and sell it as a teen romance. I can always hold out hope that Ciara gets away from him or better yet Chase stops but I have this seeking feeling in the pit of my stomach that isn't going to happen.

I know that Chad now believes Andre about Stefano being dead ... I'm not sure that he believes that Andre isn't the one that took Stefano's life.

Liked seeing Joe and Theo interact again.
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crookedhalo


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Feb 17 2016, 03:01 PM
Ken Adams
Feb 17 2016, 02:44 PM
Ugh! Not to happy about the ending, I just hope they don't continue with that scene tomorrow. If it happens then just show the aftermath. :sadwalk: I can't believe it's happening in the Horton house. I wish Jennifer would come home from work right about now.

I understand that how a character was portrayed as a kid is not an indication of how they will be as they are growing up but I always felt that Ciara would be able to give a good fight if she was ever placed in a situation like this.

Didn't Ciara take karate classes or was that just Chase?
I remember Chase did as the pre-sora younger one. I am not sure if Ciara was taking karate lessons as well.
Is Andre still video taping...not another recorded rape... :sadwalk: :sadwalk: :sadwalk:

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PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

LOL @ Chad and Andre's wikipedia page comments.
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The only good scene Chad and Andre, IMO.
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PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Why are Hope and Rafe making me root for Andre?? DAMN!!
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PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Nice scenes between Theo and Joey.
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Hugo
Feb 17 2016, 03:12 PM
I want him to be redeemed because I like the actor and I don't think this story should have happened.
If he gets an appropriate punishment for the rape, good, but that's not getting murdered by Theo.
I've only seen the Theo stuff speculated on as a suggestion, is it a legit teaser/rumor with substance?

Personally, I want him to go to jail. Dying/being killed is not a punishment. Ever.
Edited by The Room Stops, Feb 17 2016, 03:20 PM.
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crookedhalo


PetrovaSalvatore
Feb 17 2016, 03:18 PM
Why are Hope and Rafe making me root for Andre?? DAMN!!
this is what I'm saying...that's so sad... :shame:
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PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Oh no Chase please don't!!!
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I don't think this episode was bad at all. I say watch it, unless the rape scene is triggering.

I did want to bang my head against a wall every time I saw Hope or Rafe, but that's to be expected at this point.
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crookedhalo


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Feb 17 2016, 03:19 PM
Hugo
Feb 17 2016, 03:12 PM
I want him to be redeemed because I like the actor and I don't think this story should have happened.
If he gets an appropriate punishment for the rape, good, but that's not getting murdered by Theo.
I've only seen the Theo stuff speculated on as a suggestion, is it a legit teaser/rumor with substance?

Personally, I want him to go to jail. Dying/being killed is not a punishment. Ever.
OMG, not fucking over two teenagers...what the hell? Of course If Ava's killed same difference...this and the heart to heart story... :shame:
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

I kind of want Chad and Andre to team up now and bust Rafael (as EJ called him).
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Thank you JCP.

I never thought Chase was meant to stay.
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DaysFan2009


Amy1970
Feb 17 2016, 03:00 PM
DaysFan2009
Feb 17 2016, 02:25 PM
esp13
Feb 17 2016, 01:52 PM

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How does anyone know that Chase was not brainwashed or drugged. I found it a little odd that Andre was shoving food at Chase that he didn't touch himself. Just because it didn't happen on screen with a picture tutorial doesn't mean it didn't happen, so brainwashing or some sort of mind control could be a possibility as well. It seems clear to me that Andre is using Chase as a pawn in his revenge scheme. If he can do it to Chad, it shouldn't exactly be a shocker that he would do the same to Chase.
Well that is not what they showed on-screen, he appeared to know exactly what he is doing.
I'm just not undersranding the notion of "if it doesn't happen on screen it didn't happen". Relevant details for stories happen completely off screen or are only implied all of the time, like inposter & "back from the dead" stories. Sometimes it's a matter of simple common sense & connecting the dots. Just because Andre didn't hold up a sign saying "now I am going to slip something in Chase's food", "off screen during the commercial break I am going to use a new mind control technique", doesn't mean it didn't happen. Considering that some of the live tweeting during the show described Chase as "disoriented", "knowing what he was doing" would also be open to interpretation & a matter of opinion, not a fact. It's quite possible that a door was left open to redeem Chase just as it was for Aiden. Chase is a mixed up traumatized kid being manipulated in likely more ways than one by a psychopath. What was Jack & EJ's excuse?
Edited by DaysFan2009, Feb 17 2016, 03:34 PM.
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bygnedys
Feb 17 2016, 03:23 PM
I never thought Chase was meant to stay.
What's the last evidence we've gotten of JMc being at the studio? If I had to guess, I'd say that Aiden's return is partly to usher Chase offscreen.
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