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Wednesday, February 17th episode discussion
Topic Started: Feb 16 2016, 07:14 PM (29,111 Views)
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Hugo
Feb 17 2016, 03:31 PM
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Feb 17 2016, 03:19 PM
Hugo
Feb 17 2016, 03:12 PM
I want him to be redeemed because I like the actor and I don't think this story should have happened.
If he gets an appropriate punishment for the rape, good, but that's not getting murdered by Theo.
I've only seen the Theo stuff speculated on as a suggestion, is it a legit teaser/rumor with substance?

Personally, I want him to go to jail. Dying/being killed is not a punishment. Ever.
If he was an adult, he should do jail time but he's a minor and I don't see a reason why he should be judged as an adult.

I would like the writers to stop doing those extreme storylines because it sends the wrong message if the character doesn't get punished but at the same time, I hate when characters with potential are sacrified. A lot of soap characters deserve to go to jail but they don't.
seems like all the characters I'm interested are leaving or probably should be. Chase and now Eric. I liked Eric with Nicole and I think that Chase was the best teen actor of the bunch.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Feb 17 2016, 03:47 PM
Like Bobbie Spencer told Elizabeth Webber on GH when Liz was raped at 16, this wasn't sex or making love. So there's no way I'll ever count this as Ciara's first time.

Agreed.
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Well EJ was forgiven cause he was charming and hot.

Jack was charismatic enough to turn his character around.

I dont see Chase being forgiven by the audience in a similar manner. I'm tired of crazy abusive men on this show!!! God where is Bo Brady to kick some serious ass when you need him?
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PetrovaSalvatore
Feb 17 2016, 03:51 PM
Well EJ was forgiven cause he was charming and hot.

Jack was charismatic enough to turn his character around.

I dont see Chase being forgiven by the audience in a similar manner. I'm tired of crazy abusive men on this show!!! God where is Bo Brady to kick some serious ass when you need him?
not to mention Jack went nuts started walking around talking to his dead fathers...thought he was becoming them...
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lysie


I understand that this story could absolutely end up sucking, but I don't understand all the"what's wrong with these writers" comments. They're writing a rape story. They didn't do it accidentally (like I suspect they may have done with Ava). It's a common soap story.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Feb 17 2016, 03:47 PM
I'm guessing that was Chase's "first time" too right? seriously WTF is wrong with these writers. We saw no signs of him being drugged or disoriented from all that food Andre fed him. Unless they give us some flashbacks later. Anyway I always feared it would come to this. Nick Fallon/Ben Weston in training. I honestly think Chase will either die or get shipped off somewhere. I can't see him co-existing with Hope's family anymore. Or anywhere near the Hortons and Brady's they'd eat him alive. That includes the Kiriakis!! If Victor can remember that Ciara is his granddaughter that is.

Ciara will be traumatized for months and probably won't say anything for several weeks until Theo or someone else finds out. Like Bobbie Spencer told Elizabeth Webber on GH when Liz was raped at 16, this wasn't sex or making love. So there's no way I'll ever count this as Ciara's first time.
They've already had Marlena say (more than once, I think) that rape is about power, not sex. I really hope they have her reiterate that to Ciara.

I do get a bit of a Liz/Lucky vibe from this. Theo will probably be there as a supportive friend, as Lucky was for Liz. Which, it was a highly discussed story that people rave about because of how they handled a very hard subject, so I guess they could certainly do worse.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Feb 17 2016, 03:51 PM
Well EJ was forgiven cause he was charming and hot.

Jack was charismatic enough to turn his character around.

I dont see Chase being forgiven by the audience in a similar manner. I'm tired of crazy abusive men on this show!!! God where is Bo Brady to kick some serious ass when you need him?
You're tired of crazy abusive men, so you want a man to come in and take care of it by being crazy and abusive? ;)
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lysie
Feb 17 2016, 03:54 PM
I understand that this story could absolutely end up sucking, but I don't understand all the"what's wrong with these writers" comments. They're writing a rape story. They didn't do it accidentally (like I suspect they may have done with Ava). It's a common soap story.
it's a stupid s/l a sad s/l a sadistic s/l...and two in a month...I agree "what's wrong with these writers?"
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crookedhalo
Feb 17 2016, 03:57 PM
lysie
Feb 17 2016, 03:54 PM
I understand that this story could absolutely end up sucking, but I don't understand all the"what's wrong with these writers" comments. They're writing a rape story. They didn't do it accidentally (like I suspect they may have done with Ava). It's a common soap story.
it's a stupid s/l a sad s/l a sadistic s/l...and two in a month...I agree "what's wrong with these writers?"
It's a soap storyline. And it may be two in a month, but it's also two different writers in a month. At least this one isn't ambiguous. :shrug:
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lysie
Feb 17 2016, 03:55 PM
PetrovaSalvatore
Feb 17 2016, 03:51 PM
Well EJ was forgiven cause he was charming and hot.

Jack was charismatic enough to turn his character around.

I dont see Chase being forgiven by the audience in a similar manner. I'm tired of crazy abusive men on this show!!! God where is Bo Brady to kick some serious ass when you need him?
You're tired of crazy abusive men, so you want a man to come in and take care of it by being crazy and abusive? ;)
what's crazy about a man punching his daughter's rapist? or abusive? Maybe in hindsight...OTT...maybe in hindsight a crime. Though I doubt any court would prosecute.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Feb 17 2016, 03:51 PM
Well EJ was forgiven cause he was charming and hot.

Jack was charismatic enough to turn his character around.
I never forgave EJ and I hated how the show wrote that. Just loathesome.

Jack was forgiven [or at least tolerated] because he went through a longterm inner battle and was truly remorseful.
Edited by nananana7, Feb 17 2016, 04:02 PM.
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Hugo


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Feb 17 2016, 03:48 PM
Chase was my favorite teen.I cant justify what has happened with him. He has been ruined. I really liked the young actor and thought he had a lot of potential. Let's face it the writers would rather play the cheap rape card than come up wit anything truly compelling.It's beyond sickening essentially having a child rape another child.
It's sickening but it happens in real life so I suppose it's a good thing that some shows tell those stories. Shoud Days be one of those shows? I don't know. First, it's airing in the middle of the day, a lot of kids might be watching. Second, soap writers work like crazy to produce 250 episodes every year and I don't think they have a lot of time to seek advice about what they write, unlike writers of primetime shows. I think Days should let a show like Law & Order: Special Victims Unit tell those stories because there's a good chance they won't do it right.
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crookedhalo
Feb 17 2016, 03:59 PM
lysie
Feb 17 2016, 03:55 PM
PetrovaSalvatore
Feb 17 2016, 03:51 PM
Well EJ was forgiven cause he was charming and hot.

Jack was charismatic enough to turn his character around.

I dont see Chase being forgiven by the audience in a similar manner. I'm tired of crazy abusive men on this show!!! God where is Bo Brady to kick some serious ass when you need him?
You're tired of crazy abusive men, so you want a man to come in and take care of it by being crazy and abusive? ;)
what's crazy about a man punching his daughter's rapist? or abusive? Maybe in hindsight...OTT...maybe in hindsight a crime. Though I doubt any court would prosecute.
I wouldn't either, but that doesn't change the statement.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Feb 17 2016, 03:51 PM
Well EJ was forgiven cause he was charming and hot.

Jack was charismatic enough to turn his character around.

I dont see Chase being forgiven by the audience in a similar manner. I'm tired of crazy abusive men on this show!!! God where is Bo Brady to kick some serious ass when you need him?
And EJ was not forgiven by a lot of people. I could never take him seriously after that. Even if they'd had chemistry, I could never have rooted for him with Sami. Because of the rape.

Jack was an entirely different story. They joked about the EJ/Sami rape. After some time, they had them talk about it like it was nothing. Jack, at least, was highly affected by what he did, even as time passed. Didn't forgive himself, and didn't belittle it. Jack hated himself, EJ didn't acknowledge it. That doesn't make either man right, but there's a difference.
Edited by The Room Stops, Feb 17 2016, 04:02 PM.
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I just fear the actress can't carry the story. But rape happens on a soap..Dunno if these young actors can pull off the beats.
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lysie


Apparently, Hope didn't realize that Ciara left home after she told her not to.
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

lysie
Feb 17 2016, 03:55 PM
PetrovaSalvatore
Feb 17 2016, 03:51 PM
Well EJ was forgiven cause he was charming and hot.

Jack was charismatic enough to turn his character around.

I dont see Chase being forgiven by the audience in a similar manner. I'm tired of crazy abusive men on this show!!! God where is Bo Brady to kick some serious ass when you need him?
You're tired of crazy abusive men, so you want a man to come in and take care of it by being crazy and abusive? ;)
Oh touché lol fair point. we can just ship Chase to have some needed therapy with some family somewhere far away from Salem and cool it with the abuse for a little while.
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crookedhalo


lysie
Feb 17 2016, 03:59 PM
crookedhalo
Feb 17 2016, 03:57 PM
lysie
Feb 17 2016, 03:54 PM
I understand that this story could absolutely end up sucking, but I don't understand all the"what's wrong with these writers" comments. They're writing a rape story. They didn't do it accidentally (like I suspect they may have done with Ava). It's a common soap story.
it's a stupid s/l a sad s/l a sadistic s/l...and two in a month...I agree "what's wrong with these writers?"
It's a soap storyline. And it may be two in a month, but it's also two different writers in a month. At least this one isn't ambiguous. :shrug:
no it's worse... Ambiguous is more entertaining.

This is a young guy raping his young friend that considers him like a brother to her, after being talked to by a psychopath that is being framed for his father's death by the woman that killed him...

I'll take ambiguous anytime...any day. And it maybe a common soap story, hell, it's a common life story... 1 out of 5...but it's still not entertaining.
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lysie


There's bloody bandages upstairs. Chad, when you buy a house, make sure the previous occupants take out the damn trash.
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lysie
Feb 17 2016, 03:54 PM
I understand that this story could absolutely end up sucking, but I don't understand all the"what's wrong with these writers" comments. They're writing a rape story. They didn't do it accidentally (like I suspect they may have done with Ava). It's a common soap story.
Yeah, it could suck. But we don't know. Because it literally just happened. And we just had a very clear shift in regime. Which, IMO, matters greatly in this case.
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