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Wednesday, February 17th episode discussion
Topic Started: Feb 16 2016, 07:14 PM (29,107 Views)
lysie


Well, I liked today better than I have most days recently. My only real complaint is that there was too much going on. At least one story should have been saved for a different day.
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lysie
Feb 17 2016, 04:58 PM
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Feb 17 2016, 04:57 PM
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Feb 17 2016, 03:31 PM

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He's old enough to know that "No means NO". Being sixteen is not an excuse. :-/

I liked Chase, but if the writers want to redeem him, they have a lot of work to do.
This reminds me of when the argument that Sami kidnapped Belle because she was confused comes up.
I say at even 16 if you have to put your hand over a girl's mouth...you know that it's rape.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Feb 17 2016, 02:47 PM
Oh Claire!! "You whore yourself to Philip" and Belle almost slapping her... WOW Claire I love you and I'm 100% on your side but calm down a little. she's still your mother and you should still respect her if I don't.
yea, I thought she was a bit unhinged there. :o
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Lovejm


I think we can link to this. VJ said she met with Albert and Josh about the rape story.

https://twitter.com/soapdigest/status/700078186282016768
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lysie


I thought VJ did well, and her scenes with Theo are a reminder that sometimes acting isn't the most important thing. I'm cautiously optimistic.
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lysie
Feb 17 2016, 04:03 PM
There's bloody bandages upstairs. Chad, when you buy a house, make sure the previous occupants take out the damn trash.
I think they seriously need new staffing in the Dimera mansion.
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lysie
Feb 17 2016, 04:05 PM
I feel like Hope should be like, "Oh hey Shawn. Where'd you come from? You work here now? Where do you live?"
And perhaps, "Gee you look different than the last time I saw you?"
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I don't really get why Andre has been wasting all his time with Chase. If he wasn't drugging him or brainwashing him how can he be sure Chase is going to go and rape or hurt Ciara? And how does this help him get Hope for killing Stefano? It's all so contrived. :rolleyes: Why can't they just write character driven stories?
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Chase should been gone has soon as his father was
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lysie
Feb 17 2016, 04:41 PM
I need someone to point out to Andre that Stefano's victims haven't been getting justice either.
Marlena still doesn't know when she learned to play chess.
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Sick of belle she is



Sick of belle she is nothing but cold bitch to shawn but she stay whoring herself to philip
I don't blame claire for being mad at her





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lysie
Feb 17 2016, 04:58 PM
This reminds me of when the argument that Sami kidnapped Belle because she was confused comes up.
"But mommy, I was confused! So I kidnapped a tiny infant! But like, she was related to me, so it's less horrible. At least I love her. Sort of. Well, I also despise her existence, but... DADDY COME HUG ME AND LET ME LOOK AT YOU INAPPROPRIATELY!"
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Feb 17 2016, 04:39 PM
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Feb 17 2016, 04:16 PM
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Feb 17 2016, 03:48 PM

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Yes, we will see how it plays out. if I had a dollar for every Days story that had pertinent details happen off screen or implied, & become relevant later I would be very wealthy, & much of what transpired today is open to interpretation. And you certainly don't have to make a point if addressing me in your post to get that point across. It's clear from twitter that there were many interpretations of what happened today. I certainly don't think this should be assumed to be an exit story for Chase because there is no redemption for him. I guess if he is too be locked up & labeled ruined he better save a spot in the cell in case Jack or EJ come back from the dead..... right? There are lots of different ways this can play out, & given the fact that Aiden is returning (quite possibly with a redemption story since it appears DC is still filming & therefore will be airing for months) anything is possible for Chase as well.
I quoted a post that had restless at the bottom and yours at the top. Half my response was for restless and the other half for you, hence why I addressed you in the part that was meant for you not for Restless. :shrug:

I never said this was an exit story for Chase. The only point Im trying to make is so far, today, we are to believe Chase was not drugged or brainwashed. Thats it. In 4 months they want to show us a flashback that shows he was drugged, ok, but right now nothing points that way and we are supposed to believe Chase was of clear mind.

Andre couldve been feeding Chase food to try to gain his trust and rapport. To get Chase to feel like someone cares for him so Andre could get close to him. I honestly never really thought much about the food thing. Its not like they zoomed in on it with some creepy music to show us the food is somehow bad (?) Plus didnt I read somewhere that even Andre will be surprised at what Chase does?
Thaao did make that comment on AfterBuzz, but the way he speaks in riddles who knows what it really meant. Maybe he is surprised at how successful his plan was? I think most if us can at least agree that no one knows for sure how this will turn out, especially with Aiden's return in the mix. At one point in Salem history it looked like Marlena was a serial killer, until the shocking truth was revealed. Assuming the worst, & a incredibly mixed up & traumatized Chase did do this.... Should he face consequences? Yes.....Do I feel horrible for Ciara? Yes.....Do I think it makes him completely unredeemable? No. Just because his last name is Jennings does not make a completely new set of rules apply to him. If he is unredeemable, then the same should apply to an alive Jack or EJ. If anything, Chase is an even more sympathetic character than those two. They didn't suffer unimaginable trauma & at the very least manipulation by a psychopath. Not necessarily on this board, but I see tons of people rooting for hero Theo to "kick Chase's ass" & even kill him. If Jack were to get a ninth life, should Steve kill him or kick his ass before he is sent off to a prison cell to rot? Steve & Kayla, and Jack & Jen seemed to move past things & exist as a family. I find the double standards incredibly frustrating. Many characters on the show have committed crimes worse than or equal too Aiden & Chase, it seems unfair that a different set of "rules" apply to them & they are labeled unredeemable. I am fairly certain that if DC's return is long term Aiden will be redeemed with an imposter story given the body double, etc., but I'm sure that won't be good enough.it seems that treading on sacred "Bope ground" creates a whole new set of rules for a character.
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Feb 17 2016, 05:11 PM
I don't really get why Andre has been wasting all his time with Chase. If he wasn't drugging him or brainwashing him how can he be sure Chase is going to go and rape or hurt Ciara? And how does this help him get Hope for killing Stefano? It's all so contrived. :rolleyes: Why can't they just write character driven stories?
Did Andre want Chase to rape her? I'm confused. I haven't watched the whole ep yet.

Didn't TP specifically say that Andre is shocked at what Chase does? That he went too far even for that maniac's taste?
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PetrovaSalvatore
Feb 17 2016, 03:07 PM
I really hate Rafe right now. And Hope for going along with this. Yes Andre deserves it BIG TIME!! But they're supposed to be the "heroes" they're meant to be better than this.
I think it was all Hope's idea, and Rafe is the one going along with it. Not that it matters LOL
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Feb 17 2016, 05:22 PM
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Feb 17 2016, 05:11 PM
I don't really get why Andre has been wasting all his time with Chase. If he wasn't drugging him or brainwashing him how can he be sure Chase is going to go and rape or hurt Ciara? And how does this help him get Hope for killing Stefano? It's all so contrived. :rolleyes: Why can't they just write character driven stories?
Did Andre want Chase to rape her? I'm confused. I haven't watched the whole ep yet.

Didn't TP specifically say that Andre is shocked at what Chase does? That he went too far even for that maniac's taste?
That's what he said.
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I ask myself often nowadays, "How did THIS show get renewed?" :shrug:
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lysie
Feb 17 2016, 04:59 PM
Well, I liked today better than I have most days recently. My only real complaint is that there was too much going on. At least one story should have been saved for a different day.
Agreed, I found today's show pretty enjoyable. In particular I liked the Shawn/Hope, Claire/Belle, and Theo/Ciara scenes.
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Feb 17 2016, 05:22 PM
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Feb 17 2016, 05:11 PM
I don't really get why Andre has been wasting all his time with Chase. If he wasn't drugging him or brainwashing him how can he be sure Chase is going to go and rape or hurt Ciara? And how does this help him get Hope for killing Stefano? It's all so contrived. :rolleyes: Why can't they just write character driven stories?
Did Andre want Chase to rape her?
No.
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Feb 17 2016, 05:22 PM
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Feb 17 2016, 05:11 PM
I don't really get why Andre has been wasting all his time with Chase. If he wasn't drugging him or brainwashing him how can he be sure Chase is going to go and rape or hurt Ciara? And how does this help him get Hope for killing Stefano? It's all so contrived. :rolleyes: Why can't they just write character driven stories?
Did Andre want Chase to rape her? I'm confused. I haven't watched the whole ep yet.

Didn't TP specifically say that Andre is shocked at what Chase does? That he went too far even for that maniac's taste?
Well, I didn't get the feeling Andre wanted Chase to rape Ciara and I didn't hear him suggest it, but given what Rope are doing to Andre coupled with his sociopath-type personality, I can't imagine that he'll be too shocked or displeased to find out the news of Ciara's rape simply because "anything that hurts Hope is good".

I certainly hope that we see a "Hope is imagining all of this and is institutionalized" because if not, I'm not sure how much longer all of US can hang on. It grows more tedious by the day and a labor (not necessarily of love either).
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