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Wednesday, February 17th episode discussion
Topic Started: Feb 16 2016, 07:14 PM (29,101 Views)
Kyrai
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I liked today's ep.

I didn't care for the way Claire spoke to Belle, but I liked Belle, Claire, and Shawn.

I hate that Steve can't make himself tell Kayla, but SN is really making me feel for him. I love Kayla wanting to get Ava over Joey. I'm dreading Kayla finding out, but I still think S&K can come out okay. I can't wait for Ava to get hers. I will say Ava is great at making me hate her.

I don't care for rape stories, particularly with teens and I don't even like seeing Chase and Ciara kiss. However, I'm going to keep an open mind and hope there is follow thru to make this worth while. I will say it's like watching a horror movie. You don't want to watch but do wondering what is going to happen, or to try anyway.

I care most about what Chad's thinking and what he will do. I think he believes Andre. The question is, how is that going to affect him? I absolutely hate Hope and Rafe for being so un-apologetically corrupt and want them to go down for it eventually (though I feel they won't), but I don't want friction between Hope to come between Chabby. Or maybe I do if it ends up being good friction, and the whole town slowly gets pulled in. Roman was brought in, John referenced and the stolen Dimera money becoming more important. I'm looking forward to seeing how Chad reacts, and how this unravels.
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DiMera87
Feb 17 2016, 09:06 PM
lysie
Feb 17 2016, 09:02 PM
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Feb 17 2016, 08:34 PM

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I think her guess was within reason. But you still don't call your mother a whore. Even if it's true.
It was a pretty great guess, BUT she knew about the DiMera money so it's a pretty bad sign that her first thought was Belle whoring herself out. I did love those scenes.
I think the scenes with Claire today were Belle's best since she returned. I'm in the minority, but I want Belle and Shawn to eventually get back together. I think MM and BB have chem. And I love Claire.
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Kyrai
Feb 17 2016, 09:07 PM
I liked today's ep.

I didn't care for the way Claire spoke to Belle, but I liked Belle, Claire, and Shawn.

I hate that Steve can't make himself tell Kayla, but SN is really making me feel for him. I love Kayla wanting to get Ava over Joey. I'm dreading Kayla finding out, but I still think S&K can come out okay. I can't wait for Ava to get hers. I will say Ava is great at making me hate her.

I don't care for rape stories, particularly with teens and I don't even like seeing Chase and Ciara kiss. However, I'm going to keep an open mind and hope there is follow thru to make this worth while. I will say it's like watching a horror movie. You don't want to watch but do wondering what is going to happen, or to try anyway.

I care most about what Chad's thinking and what he will do. I think he believes Andre. The question is, how is that going to affect him? I absolutely hate Hope and Rafe for being so un-apologetically corrupt and want them to go down for it eventually (though I feel they won't), but I don't want friction between Hope to come between Chabby. Or maybe I do if it ends up being good friction, and the whole town slowly gets pulled in. Roman was brought in, John referenced and the stolen Dimera money becoming more important. I'm looking forward to seeing how Chad reacts, and how this unravels.
I have a bad feeling the murder and cover up is going to be the direct cause of Chabby imploding.
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lysie
Feb 17 2016, 09:02 PM
Laur
Feb 17 2016, 08:34 PM
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Feb 17 2016, 08:15 PM

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I guess it's the writing for Belle these past few weeks that makes it harder for me to perceive that as Claire being rude versus making a guess that wasn't really that outlandish. I just wish Belle could see Claire's perspective a bit more rather than reacting on the whim.

I think she was portrayed slightly better as the episode went on, in terms of not slapping Claire and telling her the (somewhat) truth.

I also absolutely LOVE Claire and Shawn right now, so seeing them in some family scenes about the situation made me really happy. I'm looking forward to seeing one lighthearted scene of all of them together at some point.
I think her guess was within reason. But you still don't call your mother a whore. Even if it's true.
Seriously? I would. A whore is a whore. Giving birth doesn't earn you sainthood. Animals have offspring..... I've known some horrid "mothers".

I don't consider Belle a whore though.

Edit: My mother was the furthest thing from a whore. Loved her.
Edited by Half Halt, Feb 17 2016, 09:13 PM.
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KweenBoda
Feb 17 2016, 09:10 PM
Kyrai
Feb 17 2016, 09:07 PM
I liked today's ep.

I didn't care for the way Claire spoke to Belle, but I liked Belle, Claire, and Shawn.

I hate that Steve can't make himself tell Kayla, but SN is really making me feel for him. I love Kayla wanting to get Ava over Joey. I'm dreading Kayla finding out, but I still think S&K can come out okay. I can't wait for Ava to get hers. I will say Ava is great at making me hate her.

I don't care for rape stories, particularly with teens and I don't even like seeing Chase and Ciara kiss. However, I'm going to keep an open mind and hope there is follow thru to make this worth while. I will say it's like watching a horror movie. You don't want to watch but do wondering what is going to happen, or to try anyway.

I care most about what Chad's thinking and what he will do. I think he believes Andre. The question is, how is that going to affect him? I absolutely hate Hope and Rafe for being so un-apologetically corrupt and want them to go down for it eventually (though I feel they won't), but I don't want friction between Hope to come between Chabby. Or maybe I do if it ends up being good friction, and the whole town slowly gets pulled in. Roman was brought in, John referenced and the stolen Dimera money becoming more important. I'm looking forward to seeing how Chad reacts, and how this unravels.
I have a bad feeling the murder and cover up is going to be the direct cause of Chabby imploding.
I'm worried too. I certainly think it's gonna cause waves.
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Half Halt
Feb 17 2016, 09:11 PM
lysie
Feb 17 2016, 09:02 PM
Laur
Feb 17 2016, 08:34 PM

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I think her guess was within reason. But you still don't call your mother a whore. Even if it's true.
Seriously? I would. A whore is a whore. Giving birth doesn't earn you sainthood. Animals have offspring..... I've known some horrid "mothers".

I don't consider Belle a whore though.

Edit: My mother was the furthest thing from a whore. Loved her.
I didn't say anything about sainthood. And a whore is a whore. But in this case she was wrong anyway. Regardless, it's not something you spit at your mother. At least not when you're 15 and are taken care of, even if you don't have the best relationship.
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Kyrai
Feb 17 2016, 09:07 PM
I liked today's ep.

I didn't care for the way Claire spoke to Belle, but I liked Belle, Claire, and Shawn.

I hate that Steve can't make himself tell Kayla, but SN is really making me feel for him. I love Kayla wanting to get Ava over Joey. I'm dreading Kayla finding out, but I still think S&K can come out okay. I can't wait for Ava to get hers. I will say Ava is great at making me hate her.

I don't care for rape stories, particularly with teens and I don't even like seeing Chase and Ciara kiss. However, I'm going to keep an open mind and hope there is follow thru to make this worth while. I will say it's like watching a horror movie. You don't want to watch but do wondering what is going to happen, or to try anyway.

I care most about what Chad's thinking and what he will do. I think he believes Andre. The question is, how is that going to affect him? I absolutely hate Hope and Rafe for being so un-apologetically corrupt and want them to go down for it eventually (though I feel they won't), but I don't want friction between Hope to come between Chabby. Or maybe I do if it ends up being good friction, and the whole town slowly gets pulled in. Roman was brought in, John referenced and the stolen Dimera money becoming more important. I'm looking forward to seeing how Chad reacts, and how this unravels.
Your last paragraph is so true. People were getting pulled in a lot today. Roman.'s involved now. Rafes line about calling John for help about the money was out of left field. This may all tie into the cover up.
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lysie
Feb 17 2016, 09:19 PM
Half Halt
Feb 17 2016, 09:11 PM
lysie
Feb 17 2016, 09:02 PM

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Seriously? I would. A whore is a whore. Giving birth doesn't earn you sainthood. Animals have offspring..... I've known some horrid "mothers".

I don't consider Belle a whore though.

Edit: My mother was the furthest thing from a whore. Loved her.
I didn't say anything about sainthood. And a whore is a whore. But in this case she was wrong anyway. Regardless, it's not something you spit at your mother. At least not when you're 15 and are taken care of, even if you don't have the best relationship.

ICAM. One of the reasons I despised Sami so much.
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DiMera87
Feb 17 2016, 08:46 PM
Did anyone that actually watched the show think Andre sent Chase on a mission to rape Ciara? I'm so confused by this line of thinking. I really didn't even get the implications. Although he was creepy as all hell and putting dark thoughts in Chase's head. I think it was more about trying to blow up Hope's family than any exact outcome like that.
No, I didn't think he specifically set Chase on a mission to rape Ciara at all. Though, I'm not exactly sure why he was pushing Chase on the Ciara love front so much.

I do think he played on Chase's vulnerabilities on purpose and it played a part in Chase's mind set when he next saw Ciara.

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People were getting pulled in a lot today. Roman.'s involved now. Rafes line about calling John for help about the money was out of left field. This may all tie into the cover up.


Shawn is going to figure this out first thanks to Claire's drop, I think, and it'll have to happen fast now, no? And now that people are allowed out of their bubbles, maybe he'll get Hope to confess (at least to him).
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Wouldn't Bo have had a St Christopher's medallion, not St Jude? My brother is a police officer and has a St Christopher medallion. St Jude is the patron saint of lost causes. Medical staff usually have those.

See, Mom, I paid attention in Sunday School. ;)
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Feb 17 2016, 09:27 PM
DiMera87
Feb 17 2016, 08:46 PM
Did anyone that actually watched the show think Andre sent Chase on a mission to rape Ciara? I'm so confused by this line of thinking. I really didn't even get the implications. Although he was creepy as all hell and putting dark thoughts in Chase's head. I think it was more about trying to blow up Hope's family than any exact outcome like that.
No, I didn't think he specifically set Chase on a mission to rape Ciara at all. Though, I'm not exactly sure why he was pushing Chase on the Ciara love front so much.

I do think he played on Chase's vulnerabilities on purpose and it played a part in Chase's mind set when he next saw Ciara.

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People were getting pulled in a lot today. Roman.'s involved now. Rafes line about calling John for help about the money was out of left field. This may all tie into the cover up.


Shawn is going to figure this out first thanks to Claire's drop, I think, and it'll have to happen fast now, no? And now that people are allowed out of their bubbles, maybe he'll get Hope to confess (at least to him).
Someone must figure the money out. Too many people know. I forgot Philip knows too. Could tie back to hope finding out Deimos is behind this and not Stefano
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I was reading the interview VJ had said Greg Mang and Josh came to her about rape story and she said she was nervous about it. So looks like DenaHigley had nothing to do with rape story.
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Feb 17 2016, 04:00 PM
mel06
Feb 17 2016, 03:48 PM
Chase was my favorite teen.I cant justify what has happened with him. He has been ruined. I really liked the young actor and thought he had a lot of potential. Let's face it the writers would rather play the cheap rape card than come up wit anything truly compelling.It's beyond sickening essentially having a child rape another child.
It's sickening but it happens in real life so I suppose it's a good thing that some shows tell those stories. Shoud Days be one of those shows? I don't know. First, it's airing in the middle of the day, a lot of kids might be watching. Second, soap writers work like crazy to produce 250 episodes every year and I don't think they have a lot of time to seek advice about what they write, unlike writers of primetime shows. I think Days should let a show like Law & Order: Special Victims Unit tell those stories because there's a good chance they won't do it right.
Well, these kids who might see the show in the middle of the day will still be seeing the sex scenes which last longer and happen more often.
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Feb 17 2016, 09:41 PM
I was reading the interview VJ had said Greg Mang and Josh came to her about rape story and she said she was nervous about it. So looks like DenaHigley had nothing to do with rape story.
It was actually Albert Alarr who is the co-executive producer and Josh Griffith who presented the story to Vivian Jovanni.
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I definitely don't disagree that soaps overuse rape in general. Ciara's feels different to me so far. She's a character they seem to be invested in. That right there is one huge difference. There are a billion ways they could screw this up, but I can also see long term potential.

I think this will be Griffith's real test. How this is handled over the next couple of months will either make or break him for me.
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Feb 17 2016, 04:00 PM
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Feb 17 2016, 03:48 PM
Chase was my favorite teen.I cant justify what has happened with him. He has been ruined. I really liked the young actor and thought he had a lot of potential. Let's face it the writers would rather play the cheap rape card than come up wit anything truly compelling.It's beyond sickening essentially having a child rape another child.
It's sickening but it happens in real life so I suppose it's a good thing that some shows tell those stories. Shoud Days be one of those shows? I don't know. First, it's airing in the middle of the day, a lot of kids might be watching. Second, soap writers work like crazy to produce 250 episodes every year and I don't think they have a lot of time to seek advice about what they write, unlike writers of primetime shows. I think Days should let a show like Law & Order: Special Victims Unit tell those stories because there's a good chance they won't do it right.
It`s no worse than the Ava raping Steve story and they keep showing flashbacks of that.
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granolagirl
Feb 17 2016, 06:38 PM
Oh, the other thing today that was funny/frustrating was Kayla and Steve catching Roman up on the last forty-seven twists in the Ava story. Bubbles be gone.
God I can't wait till Ava is a thing of the past.....
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Feb 17 2016, 05:32 PM
The Room Stops
Feb 17 2016, 05:30 PM
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Feb 17 2016, 05:24 PM
I ask myself often nowadays, "How did THIS show get renewed?" :shrug:
A combination of good/current ratings rising, good morale all around, willingness to be flexible AND being able to show a good prospect for stuff to come that the network liked?
man from Today's show I was thinking a white witch and a hex bag.
Exactly. When I asked myself that question about renewal, I really wasn't expecting anyone to answer. . . but I'll go with hex bag and voodoo for the win in securing renewal. Because there's NOTHING I've seen overall the last couple of months that collectively would make me do a happy dance. Bones and scraps every once in awhile. . .that's it.
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Josh Griffith's test starts tomorrow. How are you writing this immediately after? What will the tone be and can VJ pull it off. I thought she did a good job today and I thought the way the rape occurred realistic. With the speculation Ciara hides the fact she was raped there will be many beats I need to see played in order to feel this is a worthwhile story for the show. Can they be respectful of the victim and give Ciara the deserving focus? I'm really hoping so.

Chase is 100% accountable for his action no matter what advice Andre gave him. I don't want any BS about his vulnerable state. He held his hand over Ciara's mouth and disregarded the tears in her eyes and words from her lips.
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AngelaP
Feb 17 2016, 08:35 PM
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So...maybe they cut some scenes....


Not cut as much as saved them for this part of the story? Steve's really heavy aggressiveness in those scenes? I wonder why they went with that angle. Seeing it makes me feel somewhat sympathetic to the rapist so I have to guess that is part of the reason.
My read is that they saved them to show Ava's delusions about Steve starting to break, and switching over into a different mode of crazy. There have been enough references to her liking rough sex and Steve manhandling her that I don't think that was the problem. His aggressiveness was to take some control back, in a situation that he did not control, and her reaction is just that she didn't get what she wanted out of it.
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