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| Wednesday, February 17th episode discussion | |
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| Mitchapalooza | Feb 17 2016, 01:34 PM Post #161 |
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| esp13 | Feb 17 2016, 01:34 PM Post #162 |
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I don't think they are going to use Andre's influence to "excuse" Chase's behavior as much as they used it to create the ... motivation, I guess. And I'm also sure that Ciara's initial response (kissing Chase back) will be a party of the story, but that doesn't mean it won't be a rape story or that it will mean Chase didn't do anything wrong. Unfortunately, even in this day of "no means no" there are too many people, including victims, who think that if a woman is kissing a guy, or seems into him, then they "started it" and it's at least partly their fault. If the show is going to do with story, and obviously it is, then do it right and address those issues. If Ciara blames herself (at least at first) that's not necessarily bad writing, it's realistic writing. If she doesn't tell anyone (which it appears she doesn't) that doesn't necessarily mean that Chase is going to "get away with it," it's how so many of these crimes occur. This may be a horrible storyline if they don't address it properly. Jack raping Kayla could have been a horrible storyline if they hadn't handled it right. But they didn't handle it right and it became a very powerful storyline. This can too, but we won't know until it plays out. For those who want to assume that it's not going to be handled right, that's fair enough. Personally, I'll wait and see. The set-up for this wasn't great (thanks BTS bullshit) but we have seen Chase kind of obsessed with Ciara. He tried to kiss her right after everything went down with Bo and Aiden. He's been stalky and creepy (lots of people have commented on it). There was the bullying thing that tied back to Ciara. As I said, it hasn't been great, but there was enough before Andre's involvement for me not to feel this comes completely out of the blue. Now we'll see what they do with it. |
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| Mitchapalooza | Feb 17 2016, 01:38 PM Post #163 |
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This is truly shocking to me, could they not have used the park set or any other set....Alice and Tom's house :-( |
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| Mitchapalooza | Feb 17 2016, 01:40 PM Post #164 |
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| bygnedys | Feb 17 2016, 01:40 PM Post #165 |
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Thank you JCP.
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I think the poor pacing might have been done partly because of the time element of making so much happen in November for anniversary and held back story progress to happen at a certain time. Hopefully with Josh back he can pace things out better. |
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| Peanut | Feb 17 2016, 01:40 PM Post #166 |
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This episode was so fucked up. I literally just started watching again last week, but it looks like I'm going to have to go on another break already. I will NOT watch "Rapes of Our Lives." :angry: |
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| elizhope | Feb 17 2016, 01:41 PM Post #167 |
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I agree with all that. ANd I do think this has the potential to be an amazing story for Days. Even be a huge storyline for starting the Ciara/Theo's romance. I think my faith in Days writing team has just been bruised that they will do it correctly, so im wary until I see it play out |
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| Mitchapalooza | Feb 17 2016, 01:43 PM Post #168 |
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He also pushed her down on the couch, and covered her mouth. |
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| Inara Serra | Feb 17 2016, 01:45 PM Post #169 |
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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.
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| Mitchapalooza | Feb 17 2016, 01:47 PM Post #170 |
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Well we know he does fallout because of his writing on Y&R and OLTL...his stories all had huge fallout and were drawn out. |
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| anzu | Feb 17 2016, 01:48 PM Post #171 |
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Let me preface this statement by saying I despise everything about Andre. He's an absolute cartoon and I prefer realistic soap with characters who might actually exist. Let me also preface this statement by saying I generally like Hope and enjoyed bouncer Rafe. Let me also preface by saying both Andre and Stefano are horrible human beings....... All that said..... I am rooting for Andre over the supposed "good guys" and I probably shouldn't be. I don't know if this is some weird attempt to make Andre some sort of antihero or what but if I'm supposed to look at this storyline and be loyal to Hope till the end.... it's not really working for me? I don't know if DAYS understands the concept of rooting for the underdog (I know for sure Corday doesn't) or what but... I am confused about what I am supposed to be feeling here. Unrelated: Joey really reminded me of Massey's Will when he was going off on Steve when he first came home. |
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| bygnedys | Feb 17 2016, 01:49 PM Post #172 |
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Thank you JCP.
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You wouldn't have wanted to watch during the 70's and 80's then. Raped: Marlena Julie Kimberly Kayla Jennifer-1990"s Sami-Alan and then E.J. |
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| Vero43 | Feb 17 2016, 01:50 PM Post #173 |
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Sick sl now they'll be the next Sami and Ej... |
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| esp13 | Feb 17 2016, 01:52 PM Post #174 |
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Oh, I absolutely agree on that part. It's hard to have faith, although I have more faith in Josh (who I firmly believe is behind this story) than Dena (who clearly didn't follow up on the set-up Josh started). I know people (not you necessarily) think that Andre's role is provide Chase an "out" but I really don't think it is. First off, I'm not sure how it would - he wasn't drugged, or subjected to brainwashing, he was simply influenced. Second, I really think it was just a way for Josh to speed up the set-up which was supposed to be happening for the last three months. And, ironically, one of the reasons I have a little faith that this might be handled better is the Steve and Kayla stuff. I know Steve hasn't told the whole truth (and that's going to blow up his face) but he's been a lot more honest with Kayla than ever thought he would be. And his reactions - both immediately after he was forced to have sex with Ava and since he's been home - have been far more layered than I expected. Even though I fully believe what happened in that hotel room was rape, I never expected the show to treat it that way (for numerous reasons). But (stupid promo voiceovers aside) they are treating it as consensual or something "he wanted" either. I don't know that I can explain it exactly, but they've handled the aftermath of that quite differently than I feared they would and I guess that gives me hope that now that Josh is back in charge, this Ciara story will be handled better as well. |
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| Kyrai | Feb 17 2016, 01:53 PM Post #175 |
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Maggie too. |
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| Deverauxfan | Feb 17 2016, 01:55 PM Post #176 |
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Bellarke <3
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This storyline involves heavy material that I don't really see VJ handling it well. I just can't see the fallout being anywhere close to what viewers got after Marty's rape on OLTL. SH killed that. |
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| bygnedys | Feb 17 2016, 01:57 PM Post #177 |
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Thank you JCP.
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Lousy acting on the rape. |
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| karenap63 | Feb 17 2016, 01:58 PM Post #178 |
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Lane Davies, I can't remember who he played on Days, but I loved him as Mason Capwell on Santa Barbara. He was the best. |
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| The Room Stops | Feb 17 2016, 01:58 PM Post #179 |
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And it's not like Chase has been the portrait of perfection up until now, a fully fleshed out "good" character. He's a recently SORASed teenager who has already shown little regard for other people in relation to his victim. Too little lead up? Yes, absolutely... We should have seen Chase shown violent tendencies. But, very few people get a "Hey, this guy may force himself on you" warning before they are violated in real life. And it happens too often with someone they know, love and trusted before the rape. Which often happens in an environment that is supposed to be safe. And as tends to be forgotten, rape is about power, not sex. And we have seen Chase be controlling with Ciara recently (to the point where he treated Theo like shit to "get" her). Is it a clear line from that to forcing himself on her? Thankfully, in most cases, no. But this is a soap. What will sink or save this story is what follows. Not tomorrow or Friday, but in weeks to come, in character portrayal. How they portray it, which, let's be fair, we can't possibly know yet because it hasn't happened. Most people here raged against the "Ben is the killer" angle. Most of us ate our words, didn't we? There is still a chance that'll happen here. I hope, and actually think, we'll see Chase leaving soonish. And honestly, that's a good thing in this. He's unnecessary, a terribly constructed character and a waste of airtime. As with Ben, they took someone who should be written out anyway, and might use them to tell a story without being left with a legacy character that almost has to be redeemed. My biggest issue with it is acting wise, as of right now. I don't know if VJ will be able to step up. I hope so. |
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| Rosebud | Feb 17 2016, 02:00 PM Post #180 |
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I don't understand the disparity in how different character's wounds heal on this show. Brady's open heart surgery has no scar but Andre's face will never be without that wound. It will surely become a permanent scar. |
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