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Griffith OUT!
Topic Started: Feb 18 2016, 06:01 PM (63,277 Views)
Mister
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It seems like Corday makes all his executive decisions while high on crack.

Every few months there's some knee-jerk decision that does nothing to improve the show. He just seems really...stupid, to be honest.

Oh well.
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Hugo


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Feb 19 2016, 09:51 AM
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Feb 18 2016, 06:37 PM
anzu
Feb 18 2016, 06:26 PM
Anyone have a rundown of Higley's favorites and disliked characters?
Fave: Rafe and Hope

Least fave:
Everyone else
Really have to wonder what could have enticed Freddie Smith to return as Dena had a reputation for not wanting to write the gay storyline. And if there is any truth to the mega buzz about Chandler Massey possibly returning I can't imagine what could induce him to do it knowing Will and Sonny were not close to top shelf to Dena.
I hope Quan will be the one writing for Sonny and Paul (and Will if he's back), he follows Freddie and Christopher on twitter.

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Anyway, this works fine. Honey, you look horrific.

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It was so nice seeing Patch, Kayla, John and Marlena for the short time we had them. Wonder how much longer we get them before they are gone?
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5-6 months if they don't, you know, just not air filmed scenes like the last time SN and MBE were let go.

I don't mind calling Corday's offices and publicity. I've got a voice for radio. I sound great on the phone. But honestly, I'm at a loss of what to say.
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Hugo
Feb 19 2016, 10:08 AM
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Feb 19 2016, 09:51 AM
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Feb 18 2016, 06:37 PM

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Really have to wonder what could have enticed Freddie Smith to return as Dena had a reputation for not wanting to write the gay storyline. And if there is any truth to the mega buzz about Chandler Massey possibly returning I can't imagine what could induce him to do it knowing Will and Sonny were not close to top shelf to Dena.
I hope Quan will be the one writing for Sonny and Paul (and Will if he's back), he follows Freddie and Christopher on twitter.

He will write what Queen Dena allows him to write.
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PhoenixRising05
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dooldooldool
Feb 19 2016, 03:48 AM
I have watched DOOL for 30+ years and I enjoy this message board. I can appreciate the spirited discussions and devotion that many express.

But honestly, I think folks need to chill for a moment.

No studio/producer is gonna whiplash fire/change their mind about any BTS decisions because a few dozen folks on a message board suddenly go bonkers/crazy with tweets and pages-long board topics.

This is show business. And clearly business decisions are being made. It's already been theorized that Griffith's 1-year contract came to an end. Either he didn't want to stay, was offered a low-ball $$$ extension (welcome to daytime), or he was fired (based on what has been taped and will air until the Olympics).

As for his co-writer, we know she was on a LOA. What we don't know is how that affected her contractually. If it was unpaid, then she still has a contract and it's cheaper to keep her around than to buy her out. That could mean she's out the door once her earlier contract ends.

Regardless, we don't know squat.

What we do know is that the show is renewed, with an option. Clearly, these BTS machinations were part of the negotiations. Perhaps that added to the delay in the announcement.

We also know that the ratings have been more than decent, even with the hackneyed storytelling of the past couple months. Yet, ratings rise.

That's what the suits care about. They don't care about airtime for aging supercouples. They don't care whether the storylines are inconsistent. They don't care about message boards, filled with posts from folks who openly say they "haven't watched in weeks" or "read the recaps".

They care about making money. And DOOL will make money when it cuts costs and gains/holds ratings.

We all know the cast is too large. There's a fanbase which will squeal and moan with every change/departure. There's also likely a group of actors who basically work for scale/insurance and they won't go anywhere.

The same dynamic likely exists behind the scenes. I doubt we will see any stability for awhile. The now-rumored TWO month break in taping may help them down the road to yank bad (ie badly rated stories) sooner. That is a good thing.

This is a business to make money. As long as DOOL makes money, NBC will keep renewing it and Corday will keep the cameras rolling.

In the meanwhile, we have 5-6 months of one writer's direction. It could be gangbusters or it could be horrific. We aren't going to see another direction until after the Olympic break.

Ratings will ultimately decide what happens next.
I usually agree with you and always enjoy your posts and I actually agree with you on most of what you said except one thing...this CAN be changed. This board was involved in a campaign that aided in ousting Higley before. It can happen again, especially given her history and given the fact that it's obvious she only has one supporter and that is Corday.

Your right in that the ratings so far this year do help her argument and that is what happens with Dena. The first few months of her reign always seem to bring in decent ratings and then they fall off when the audience sees through all the stunts and events that lead to nothing. No fallout. No repercussions. You just go from event to event with very little story in between. That type of writing only goes so far and committing to her long-term will lead to the same type of disaster that she has brought on in the past.

As lysie said, with the 1-2 month hiatus coming up, this is the perfect time to campaign and bring about change. The show can implement any changes and come back from the break with things in place and all planned out. Maybe your right in that this is only temporary or things may not go as seemed but I don't think that is a risk worth taking. There is nothing wrong with fans campaigning out of concern for the show and it's future. It worked before and could work again.
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I might get more worked up later, but I'm content right now. I'd made my peace with never watching Days again after Dena was rehired, and I only returned because a couple of people whose opinions I trusted assured me that it was good. They were right; those first few months were classic Days. Steve, Bo and original Shawn returned. Sami returned long enough to pull a scheme (even though it was stupid). jarlena, S&K and bope were written in character again. It was like a finale, in a way; just about everyone was happy, or had a chance for happiness on the horizon. I'm okay with ignoring the sharp decline and letting the summer and part of fall be my last Days memories.

I might watch again if or when Dena leaves, or if people recommend it again, and I wish Days the best, but I just don't have it in me anymore to campaign to beg Corday not to kill his own show. If he wants Dena, then fine. Good luck with that.
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Kenny
Feb 18 2016, 10:48 PM
"Dena makes noises of, 'Oh yes you are wonderful, this and that' and then she writes nothing. She doesn't write stories, she writes events. It's like one event - 'let's have a bomb, let's have a plane crash' - but there is no story. She doesn't care about the rich history of the show, which is evident in what she writes. It's all out the window. She wants to write for her own characters and she wants to write stories that she thinks are interesting but nobody else does." - Erika Slezak
Swiped and tweeted. I shall slap myself on the wrist if necessary.
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Guess Dena will be able to do her Bricole/Thrady triangle she was probably gonna do before her LOA :drunk:
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PhoenixRising05
Feb 19 2016, 10:39 AM
dooldooldool
Feb 19 2016, 03:48 AM
I have watched DOOL for 30+ years and I enjoy this message board. I can appreciate the spirited discussions and devotion that many express.

But honestly, I think folks need to chill for a moment.

No studio/producer is gonna whiplash fire/change their mind about any BTS decisions because a few dozen folks on a message board suddenly go bonkers/crazy with tweets and pages-long board topics.

This is show business. And clearly business decisions are being made. It's already been theorized that Griffith's 1-year contract came to an end. Either he didn't want to stay, was offered a low-ball $$$ extension (welcome to daytime), or he was fired (based on what has been taped and will air until the Olympics).

As for his co-writer, we know she was on a LOA. What we don't know is how that affected her contractually. If it was unpaid, then she still has a contract and it's cheaper to keep her around than to buy her out. That could mean she's out the door once her earlier contract ends.

Regardless, we don't know squat.

What we do know is that the show is renewed, with an option. Clearly, these BTS machinations were part of the negotiations. Perhaps that added to the delay in the announcement.

We also know that the ratings have been more than decent, even with the hackneyed storytelling of the past couple months. Yet, ratings rise.

That's what the suits care about. They don't care about airtime for aging supercouples. They don't care whether the storylines are inconsistent. They don't care about message boards, filled with posts from folks who openly say they "haven't watched in weeks" or "read the recaps".

They care about making money. And DOOL will make money when it cuts costs and gains/holds ratings.

We all know the cast is too large. There's a fanbase which will squeal and moan with every change/departure. There's also likely a group of actors who basically work for scale/insurance and they won't go anywhere.

The same dynamic likely exists behind the scenes. I doubt we will see any stability for awhile. The now-rumored TWO month break in taping may help them down the road to yank bad (ie badly rated stories) sooner. That is a good thing.

This is a business to make money. As long as DOOL makes money, NBC will keep renewing it and Corday will keep the cameras rolling.

In the meanwhile, we have 5-6 months of one writer's direction. It could be gangbusters or it could be horrific. We aren't going to see another direction until after the Olympic break.

Ratings will ultimately decide what happens next.
I usually agree with you and always enjoy your posts and I actually agree with you on most of what you said except one thing...this CAN be changed. This board was involved in a campaign that aided in ousting Higley before. It can happen again, especially given her history and given the fact that it's obvious she only has one supporter and that is Corday.

Your right in that the ratings so far this year do help her argument and that is what happens with Dena. The first few months of her reign always seem to bring in decent ratings and then they fall off when the audience sees through all the stunts and events that lead to nothing. No fallout. No repercussions. You just go from event to event with very little story in between. That type of writing only goes so far and committing to her long-term will lead to the same type of disaster that she has brought on in the past.

As lysie said, with the 1-2 month hiatus coming up, this is the perfect time to campaign and bring about change. The show can implement any changes and come back from the break with things in place and all planned out. Maybe your right in that this is only temporary or things may not go as seemed but I don't think that is a risk worth taking. There is nothing wrong with fans campaigning out of concern for the show and it's future. It worked before and could work again.
Would it be too much to ask if they were to take a full 5-6 months off and literally have her write nothing? Cause I'd totally be okay with that. Otherwise #FireDenaHigley needs to happen.
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Corday really doesn't get it does he? WHY does he keep bringing Dena back? Well they did finally find someone different in Josh, but it sounds like they chased him away.

This show is so screwed.
Edited by Peanut, Feb 19 2016, 11:08 AM.
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Feb 19 2016, 10:08 AM
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Feb 19 2016, 09:51 AM
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Feb 18 2016, 06:37 PM

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Really have to wonder what could have enticed Freddie Smith to return as Dena had a reputation for not wanting to write the gay storyline. And if there is any truth to the mega buzz about Chandler Massey possibly returning I can't imagine what could induce him to do it knowing Will and Sonny were not close to top shelf to Dena.
I hope Quan will be the one writing for Sonny and Paul (and Will if he's back), he follows Freddie and Christopher on twitter.

He even follows Spencer Neville. Didn't see Guy or Chandler though.
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So are people more upset that Josh is out or that Dena is still in? Sounds like the latter. Because I don't think Josh is all that. He's ok but not a writing God or anything.
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Feb 19 2016, 10:30 AM
Hugo
Feb 19 2016, 10:08 AM
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Feb 19 2016, 09:51 AM

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I hope Quan will be the one writing for Sonny and Paul (and Will if he's back), he follows Freddie and Christopher on twitter.

He will write what Queen Dena allows him to write.
This is something I have heard different things about for as long as I've glanced at a message board- did Higley not essentially "create" Sonny (not as a character but as an adult we would see onscreen)? I know she wasn't there during Wilson but there seems to be a discrepancy about her contribution to Sonny's character at least on every board/page I've seen and I would love some clarification if possible :) .
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Feb 19 2016, 11:08 AM
So are people more upset that Josh is out or that Dena is still in? Sounds like the latter. Because I don't think Josh is all that. He's ok but not a writing God or anything.
He is 1000 times better than Dena ever thought about being.
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Let's get this campaign started. #NoMoreHigleyDAYS #NewDAYSBlood
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Feb 19 2016, 11:08 AM
So are people more upset that Josh is out or that Dena is still in? Sounds like the latter. Because I don't think Josh is all that. He's ok but not a writing God or anything.
No, JG is no writing God, but last fall was, IMO, the best writing we've had in at least a decade. The show was smart. The characters were smart. Each age group had a story. Characters who had never interacted before were interacting. I can only imagine how some of the actors feel. After all the bs they've had in the last 10-15 years, they could finally recognize their characters and now this.
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Feb 19 2016, 10:50 AM
I wish Days the best, but I just don't have it in me anymore to campaign to beg Corday not to kill his own show. If he wants Dena, then fine. Good luck with that.
This is kind of where I'm at, finally. As a social worker I tell my clients all the time: "You know, at some point, you've got to step up and help yourself." If Corday/the show are going to continue to make disastrous choices, one right after the other, they sunk themselves. I'm sorry, and it's sad -- but that's on them.

I have really fond memories of watching Days as a kid, a teen, a young adult, a new mom, a not-so-new-mom... But I think this is where I can finally let go of the merry-go-round. As long as Corday and Higley are there, it's just a bust. I wish Days the best, and while I might swoop by and watch the PBP every once in a while, it's time to let go.
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