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Griffith OUT!
Topic Started: Feb 18 2016, 06:01 PM (63,276 Views)
Lovejm


I just laughed to myself because it's almost exactly a year we had this same conversation when she got rehired. Except now it's worse because she seems totally solo. Josh tempered her as much as he could and then lost the battle. Exactly how we all thought it would happen.
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SoapsandDaysfan
Feb 19 2016, 11:08 AM
So are people more upset that Josh is out or that Dena is still in? Sounds like the latter. Because I don't think Josh is all that. He's ok but not a writing God or anything.
I certainly can't speak for everybody, but I think in general this is far more about Dena than Josh. If Josh left and they replaced him with just about anybody other than Dena or Gary Tomlin, I might be a little disappointed, but I certainly wouldn't be outraged. I liked some of what Josh did, but the show was hardly perfect - it was just 1000 times better than most of TomSell (particularly the last year) and infinity times better than Dena's version of the show.

So, for me and- I think - most, this is about Dena returning. We know what she does (pretty much nothing that isn't horrible) and there is absolutely no reason to believe it won't be that bad this time too.
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Lovejm
Feb 19 2016, 11:21 AM
I just laughed to myself because it's almost exactly a year we had this same conversation when she got rehired. Except now it's worse because she seems totally solo. Josh tempered her as much as he could and then lost the battle. Exactly how we all thought it would happen.
Yeah, I remember when the news broke. I was thrilled that TomSell was gone but then shocked that Dena was part of the headwriting team again. I tried to be optimistic, I really did. Even when TB's return as Ava was announced and I KNEW, KNEW that was such a bad sign, I still tried to convince myself that it couldn't be as bad as last time.

I guess I was both right and wrong about that because this version has been both better in some ways and far worse in others. But I should have gone with my gut instinct about what it meant (Dena back in charge doing her same old shit). Maybe I wouldn't be so upset now if I hadn't let myself be convinced that things were on the right track by the fall.

Fool me once, it's your fault. Fool me twice, that's on me.
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PhilipCanDoBetter
Feb 19 2016, 09:18 AM
Dena can suck it.

I hope BF doesn't lose his job over her!!! 😒
I would be completely shocked if they got rid of BF. Chad, if I'm not mistaken, was a character originally created by Dena, and he's literally one of the few younger leading men they have. I don't think he's going anywhere unless he decides to leave (which is totally possible I suppose).
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Kenny
Feb 18 2016, 10:48 PM
"Dena makes noises of, 'Oh yes you are wonderful, this and that' and then she writes nothing. She doesn't write stories, she writes events. It's like one event - 'let's have a bomb, let's have a plane crash' - but there is no story. She doesn't care about the rich history of the show, which is evident in what she writes. It's all out the window. She wants to write for her own characters and she wants to write stories that she thinks are interesting but nobody else does." - Erika Slezak
This quote should be mail blasted to the Corday Production offices, twitterbombed en masses to everyone at nbc, sony and the show.
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cord08
Feb 19 2016, 11:51 AM
PhilipCanDoBetter
Feb 19 2016, 09:18 AM
Dena can suck it.

I hope BF doesn't lose his job over her!!! 😒
I would be completely shocked if they got rid of BF. Chad, if I'm not mistaken, was a character originally created by Dena, and he's literally one of the few younger leading men they have. I don't think he's going anywhere unless he decides to leave (which is totally possible I suppose).
yeah Chad was created by Higley, the Hernandez were created by her, Freddie's Sonny, and there were 2 different Will's during her last run. So I'm not worried about her getting rid of the younger crowd.

I'm starting to worry after listening to you all about the vets, as I do want a good mix.
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Feb 19 2016, 11:17 AM
Let's get this campaign started. #NoMoreHigleyDAYS #NewDAYSBlood
Calling the studio on my lunch break. I encourage others to do the same. I need to find the direct numbers of people like Steve Kent. Greg Meng, etc. I should just find the old Fire Higley thread and pull from there :blulaugh: .

Very important too...try to get the hashtags trending during Days. That will help. Also, we need to be clear and those hastags are very good but make sure that any tweets that go with them indicate your just being a concerned fan. Don't go into who you want to return, what couples you want together, etc. Right now, the only mission is to oust Higley and make sure her replacement is not Tomsell.
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cord08
Feb 19 2016, 11:51 AM
PhilipCanDoBetter
Feb 19 2016, 09:18 AM
Dena can suck it.

I hope BF doesn't lose his job over her!!! 😒
I would be completely shocked if they got rid of BF. Chad, if I'm not mistaken, was a character originally created by Dena, and he's literally one of the few younger leading men they have. I don't think he's going anywhere unless he decides to leave (which is totally possible I suppose).

Is the guy who's playing Rafe's brother ( don't know the actors name) on contract or recurring?
Edited by peaches179, Feb 19 2016, 12:01 PM.
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Feb 19 2016, 11:59 AM
cord08
Feb 19 2016, 11:51 AM
PhilipCanDoBetter
Feb 19 2016, 09:18 AM
Dena can suck it.

I hope BF doesn't lose his job over her!!! 😒
I would be completely shocked if they got rid of BF. Chad, if I'm not mistaken, was a character originally created by Dena, and he's literally one of the few younger leading men they have. I don't think he's going anywhere unless he decides to leave (which is totally possible I suppose).

Is the guy whose playing Rafe's brother ( don't know the actors name) on contract or recurring?
Pretty sure he's contract.

Since he's a recast of another Higley creation, I don't really see him getting the ax at this point.
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PhoenixRising05
Feb 18 2016, 11:14 PM
Days22
Feb 18 2016, 11:12 PM
I dont think these petitions ever actually matter or get much done especially to this show that clearly just doesnt care but Ill tweet it out and tumblr it out anyway

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/get-dena-higley-out
In 2011, there was a huge campaign led by this board to oust Higley and it worked.

Petitions are good but more is needed. Social media is the best way. Twitter bombs, trending on twitter and facebook...get the attention of execs/cast/crew/writers on social media...that kind of thing. Call the studio and just keep hitting them in all these ways to the point where you annoy the hell out of them and they have to do something.

I didn't think it would work but it DID the first time. It could again with the same commitment and dedication.
We need to do this, we clogged up their telephones for weeks, unrelented them with twitter bombs, letters....everyone at the show and sony/Corday knew te fans had had enough and Dena was fired weeks after the campaign started..this was DR's finest hour.

We need someone high up here to help organization and help motivate.
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missmeka1987_
Feb 18 2016, 11:35 PM
Restless84
Feb 18 2016, 11:16 PM
Dena tweeted this back in August. You can't believe a thing she says. I don't see romance.

[twitter=DenaHigley/status/636023529423507456]


If she can keep her word and make this finally happen I'll be fine with her I'm tired of days looking primetime It's time for it to go back to looking like a soap..
You lost me after "if she can keep her word" lol this bitch couldn't walk straight if she wanted to, let alone keep her word.

She is the ultimate Daytime Poison.
Edited by Mitchapalooza, Feb 19 2016, 12:05 PM.
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lysie
Feb 19 2016, 12:00 AM
So I don't want to say much specific, but....

Fan comment line: 818 840 2067
NY Hotline: 212 664 2333
Corday Productions: 818 295 2821
Publicity: 818 840 2810
NBC Switchboard: 818 840 4444

Fan comment line: 818 840 2067
NY Hotline: 212 664 2333
Corday Productions: 818 295 2821
Publicity: 818 840 2810
NBC Switchboard: 818 840 4444

Fan comment line: 818 840 2067
NY Hotline: 212 664 2333
Corday Productions: 818 295 2821
Publicity: 818 840 2810
NBC Switchboard: 818 840 4444
Can we started a pinned thread for this?
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cord08
Feb 19 2016, 11:51 AM
PhilipCanDoBetter
Feb 19 2016, 09:18 AM
Dena can suck it.

I hope BF doesn't lose his job over her!!! 😒
I would be completely shocked if they got rid of BF. Chad, if I'm not mistaken, was a character originally created by Dena, and he's literally one of the few younger leading men they have. I don't think he's going anywhere unless he decides to leave (which is totally possible I suppose).
Actors being fired isn't the only concern. Keeping them around is just as bad. Dena's Chad isn't the Chad Billy has been playing.
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Mitchapalooza
Feb 19 2016, 12:02 PM
PhoenixRising05
Feb 18 2016, 11:14 PM
Days22
Feb 18 2016, 11:12 PM
I dont think these petitions ever actually matter or get much done especially to this show that clearly just doesnt care but Ill tweet it out and tumblr it out anyway

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/get-dena-higley-out
In 2011, there was a huge campaign led by this board to oust Higley and it worked.

Petitions are good but more is needed. Social media is the best way. Twitter bombs, trending on twitter and facebook...get the attention of execs/cast/crew/writers on social media...that kind of thing. Call the studio and just keep hitting them in all these ways to the point where you annoy the hell out of them and they have to do something.

I didn't think it would work but it DID the first time. It could again with the same commitment and dedication.
We need to do this, we clogged up their telephones for weeks, unrelented them with twitter bombs, letters....everyone at the show and sony/Corday knew te fans had had enough and Dena was fired weeks after the campaign started..this was DR's finest hour.

We need someone high up here to help organization and help motivate.
Agreed.

I mean, I can help motivate but my schedule is always changing so I'm not always around to post a ton. I am right now but next week, for all I know, I could be so busy I won't post at all. However, even if that would be the case, I would still be calling/tweeting/etc.

The only concern I have is that fans have been burned so much and I can already sense a degree of resignation. I get that and no one can and should be forced to campaign if they don't want to. I would just encourage people to do so on the premise that this did work before and could easily again and that is a very good reason IMO to do this. We can make a change happen but we all just need to commit and do all we can. Work around schedules and call/tweet/etc as much as possible. Get hashtags trending during Days. Encourage anyone you can to get involved.

Where is Kenny when you need him? He is really good at stuff like this :blulaugh:
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Kenny
Feb 19 2016, 01:08 AM
lysie
Feb 19 2016, 12:56 AM
Does anyone know where that interview is that Higley did...I think it was after she was fired in 2011, but before she was rehired in 2015, where she talks about how TPTB kept asking her "then what?"
I couldn't find that interview but I did find this one from 6 years ago.

http://talk.soapoperafan.com/days-spoilers-news-rumors/5231-sod-dena-higley-interview.html

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On her writing process: "It's very simple: I mull over story ideas all the time and I'll jot them down and bring all these little slips of paper. Chris and Gary and I will sit down and I will just run crazy, insane ideas by them. I'll see their faces like, 'Not so much' or 'Okay, that's a bad idea.' But then every once in a while, it will be like, 'Aha! That's something,' and the three of us will just start riffing. But it's got to come from me because that's my job. I don't want to look around at everybody going, 'Well did anybody see any movies last night? Does anybody have any ideas?' I've worked for head writers like that and it sucks. We're a team. Gary used to be a writer and he thinks like a writer, but Chris and I are still the writers and he doesn't push into our world. We get along really well. Chris is so talented and creative, and Gary is so brilliant, and it's so much fun and I feel safe enough to come in with really bad ideas."
This right here is her admitting to be a pure dim witted hack, she seriously sounds just so incredibly unprofessional and uneducated.
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lysie
Feb 19 2016, 01:32 AM
Anyone want to help me send toilet paper to the set?
yes yes yes!!! Please let's organize sometbing I'm am so ready!
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After sleeping on this, I'm even more bummed about how big of a blow this is going to be for cast/crew morale. As others have said, Josh was essentially the only writer any of the actors talked about in interviews, and one of the things they loved was how engaged he was with the material. He was on set all the time, and he seemed to like working with the actors if they thought some of the writing was off.

Now? That's gone, and I don't think Dena even lives in CA. Hopefully Albert Alarr is staying put, but man...it's going to be a tough transition for some actors, I think.

I just...I really do not understand this move. At. all.
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Feb 19 2016, 11:11 AM
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Feb 19 2016, 10:30 AM
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Feb 19 2016, 10:08 AM

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He will write what Queen Dena allows him to write.
This is something I have heard different things about for as long as I've glanced at a message board- did Higley not essentially "create" Sonny (not as a character but as an adult we would see onscreen)? I know she wasn't there during Wilson but there seems to be a discrepancy about her contribution to Sonny's character at least on every board/page I've seen and I would love some clarification if possible :) .
Based on when Sonny showed up (June 2011) Wikipedia says it was Higley/Whitesell writing that brought him back. Then Higley was on her own for a REALLY short stint without Whitesell, and then MarDar began writing in August 2011. I don't know what the actual gap is between writing and airdate, or when their first stuff would've started airing though. Sonny went missing completely in the spring of 2011, so I'd think it was MarDar that was responsible for Sonny's absence since the stuff that was airing then would've been 8 months after MarDar began writing.

Basically, we haven't seen Higley write any romance for Sonny, but she did create adult Sonny I guess, and involved him in family stuff for a while I think before MarDar took over and he disappeared.
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Mitchapalooza
Feb 19 2016, 12:07 PM
lysie
Feb 19 2016, 12:00 AM
So I don't want to say much specific, but....

Fan comment line: 818 840 2067
NY Hotline: 212 664 2333
Corday Productions: 818 295 2821
Publicity: 818 840 2810
NBC Switchboard: 818 840 4444

Fan comment line: 818 840 2067
NY Hotline: 212 664 2333
Corday Productions: 818 295 2821
Publicity: 818 840 2810
NBC Switchboard: 818 840 4444

Fan comment line: 818 840 2067
NY Hotline: 212 664 2333
Corday Productions: 818 295 2821
Publicity: 818 840 2810
NBC Switchboard: 818 840 4444
Can we started a pinned thread for this?
Start it and I'll pin it. I'm having to be more careful than I'd prefer.
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Mitchapalooza
Feb 19 2016, 12:12 PM
lysie
Feb 19 2016, 01:32 AM
Anyone want to help me send toilet paper to the set?
yes yes yes!!! Please let's organize sometbing I'm am so ready!
I'm so glad your so into this. Doesn't seem like too many people are.

I mean, I get it. This show continuously shooting itself in the foot is beyond old. If this board hadn't been successful in a campaign like this before, I would agree...why waste my time. However, it was successful. We got this hack canned the last time and that was when she wasn't nearly as vulnerable to being fired as she is this time. We have what could be a two month hiatus here. Let's use it to our advantage and make real change happen so when the show returns from it's production hiatus it really is a new beginning with no Higley in sight.
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