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Griffith OUT!
Topic Started: Feb 18 2016, 06:01 PM (63,273 Views)
esp13
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Just because something isn't in print doesn't mean it's speculation.

And, for that matter, just because it is in print doesn't mean it's fact.
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esp13
Feb 19 2016, 05:20 PM
Just because something isn't in print doesn't mean it's speculation.

And, for that matter, just because it is in print doesn't mean it's fact.
I guess I was asking what the source was of the supposed issues?
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Come on Ron, We are counting on YOU !!

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Feb 19 2016, 04:13 PM
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Feb 19 2016, 01:31 PM
lysie
Feb 19 2016, 12:09 PM

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I said that to someone earlier. She'll turn him into EJ.
That was one of the concerns I brought up over Abby's dream during the Valentine's Day episode. It seemed like they were headed to EJami 2.0 with Chad wanting to be a good man for Abby/Thomas yet retain his "DiMera" heritage.
But Ej didn't want robe a Good man
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Maybe Dena is partial to Asians. She has an Asian daughter.
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Feb 19 2016, 05:22 PM
esp13
Feb 19 2016, 05:20 PM
Just because something isn't in print doesn't mean it's speculation.

And, for that matter, just because it is in print doesn't mean it's fact.
I guess I was asking what the source was of the supposed issues?
Aside from the general knowledge of how Dena has operated in the past, the abrupt change in December, and Dena's LOA, there is enough out there from people I trust to believe it's true. It's not a matter of just linking to something because it's not always that openly stated.

But, generally speaking, if somebody's speculation/information is just wrong and somebody around here knows it's wrong, then something will be said. Nobody has ever refuted the idea that there were major issues between Dena and Josh.
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Feb 19 2016, 01:04 AM
pinkcovergirl
Feb 19 2016, 01:01 AM
Remind me what TPTB did to Sheffer?
They pushed him out for a writer who would agree to scab during the writer's strike. Of course, they lied and claimed it was Dena's husband and not Dena so they could keep her after the strike.
And before it ever got to that, they also took away the characters he wanted to write for. A lot were characters we loved. Core four four times a month, more EJ/Sami, more teens, all kinds of nonsense. They had him kill John (to which he demanded someone who knew his history at least get to write the funeral), only for Dena to bring him back in the worst way three months later. They made it impossible for him to be... Sheffer. They made him be "their writer", instead of "the guy who writes their show".

Casiello made it sound like he was basically frustrated as hell most of his run.

That's what they do to good writers. Writers with good reputations, and who have shown they can write good soap stories. They make them small, put them into a box and then force them out for people who have been fired over and over again.
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4ever DAYS
Feb 19 2016, 02:06 AM
lysie
Feb 19 2016, 02:00 AM
So here'd the thing. For those unhappy with Dena, we're really in a lurch here. We complain about Dena and they do what? Bring back Tomlin, Whitesell, or both. So I mean...be specific.
A campaign to fire Dena should be done in conjunction with a campaign to hire Sheri Anderson. If Sheri can't commit because of lousy pay, then fundraising should be a part of the campaign.
From what I've heard, Sheri's issue isn't money at all... it's the lack of freedom in getting to tell stories (which is what a headwriter is hired to do, tell stories.) Which is what troubled Sheffer his entire run. And IMO, probably what made Griffith walk or got him released from his contract.
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Tammy
Feb 19 2016, 01:21 AM
Seriously, the top actors on this show need to do a mass walk-out or something!

If any of the big names get let go this time around... they are flippin' idiots if they EVER come back! And honestly, if I was them I would friggin quit first and not give them the satisfaction!
I'm salivating over the idea of this right now.

Deidre, Drake, Stephen, Mary Beth, maybe the support of Bill, Susan, Martha and Brandon, walking into Corday's office and saying "She goes, or we go. Your choice." It'll never happen, but I can dream.
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Dena sucks so bad but I also wasn't a fan of Josh's dark tone,
though I think the production values have improved a lot since they took over.

What I worry about is if Dena gets canned who is Corday the Liar
going to hire? Tomlin again ? MarDar ?
:headbang:
I swear Days is the definition of TIIC -The Idiots In Charge
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4ever DAYS
Feb 19 2016, 05:39 PM
Maybe Dena is partial to Asians. She has an Asian daughter.
Maybe she's partial to people who will put her post its into a script and turn her bad ideas into a television program.
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Feb 19 2016, 05:59 PM
Tammy
Feb 19 2016, 01:21 AM
Seriously, the top actors on this show need to do a mass walk-out or something!

If any of the big names get let go this time around... they are flippin' idiots if they EVER come back! And honestly, if I was them I would friggin quit first and not give them the satisfaction!
I'm salivating over the idea of this right now.

Deidre, Drake, Stephen, Mary Beth, maybe the support of Bill, Susan, Martha and Brandon, walking into Corday's office and saying "She goes, or we go. Your choice." It'll never happen, but I can dream.
I think it would need to be KA and GG. From SN/MBE and the DHs it would look self serving. She's scuttled them before.
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Feb 19 2016, 05:57 PM
4ever DAYS
Feb 19 2016, 02:06 AM
lysie
Feb 19 2016, 02:00 AM
So here'd the thing. For those unhappy with Dena, we're really in a lurch here. We complain about Dena and they do what? Bring back Tomlin, Whitesell, or both. So I mean...be specific.
A campaign to fire Dena should be done in conjunction with a campaign to hire Sheri Anderson. If Sheri can't commit because of lousy pay, then fundraising should be a part of the campaign.
From what I've heard, Sheri's issue isn't money at all... it's the lack of freedom in getting to tell stories (which is what a headwriter is hired to do, tell stories.) Which is what troubled Sheffer his entire run. And IMO, probably what made Griffith walk or got him released from his contract.
With the tape to air schedule as it is, Sheri would've benefited because NBC had no control, unless it was Corday and/or Sony being restrictive.
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Feb 19 2016, 05:59 PM
Tammy
Feb 19 2016, 01:21 AM
Seriously, the top actors on this show need to do a mass walk-out or something!

If any of the big names get let go this time around... they are flippin' idiots if they EVER come back! And honestly, if I was them I would friggin quit first and not give them the satisfaction!
I'm salivating over the idea of this right now.

Deidre, Drake, Stephen, Mary Beth, maybe the support of Bill, Susan, Martha and Brandon, walking into Corday's office and saying "She goes, or we go. Your choice." It'll never happen, but I can dream.
I am not sure I would take that gamble if I were one of the Vets.
The show probably had their budget cut once again as a
part of the renewal & vets cost $

I have a feeling some of those you mentioned will be
dropped to recurring status or barely used in the future
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sitrian
Feb 19 2016, 06:02 PM
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Feb 19 2016, 05:59 PM
Tammy
Feb 19 2016, 01:21 AM
Seriously, the top actors on this show need to do a mass walk-out or something!

If any of the big names get let go this time around... they are flippin' idiots if they EVER come back! And honestly, if I was them I would friggin quit first and not give them the satisfaction!
I'm salivating over the idea of this right now.

Deidre, Drake, Stephen, Mary Beth, maybe the support of Bill, Susan, Martha and Brandon, walking into Corday's office and saying "She goes, or we go. Your choice." It'll never happen, but I can dream.
I think it would need to be KA and GG. From SN/MBE and the DHs it would look self serving. She's scuttled them before.
Yeah, I think Corday would definitely listen if they were in the mix -- especially KA. And let's be honest, Dena is the whole reason GG is even there, so he probably likes her.
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Of course he is. And Dena is still at the helm. I will never understand this kind of blatant mismanagement. They hire Higley, she proves she's terrible and extremely unpopular with the consumer, so they fire her. They hire her again and she's as predictable and "popular" as ever, so they fire her again. Then they decide it's a great idea to hire this HACK again. I have no sympathy for such blatant disregard for the fans and for such stupidity. This show blows. Chunks.
Edited by andromeda, Feb 19 2016, 06:22 PM.
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I dread to see what more she is going to do to Nicole. "sigh"

I wonder if we will ever see Lucas again?
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In trying to find a little spark of optimism in this dark crap hole last night, all I could find was the glimmer of hope that Higley is still on LOA. In which case, she'd still officially be the head writer that's left with Griffith leaving, but not actually, physically, going back to work. Ryan Quan is Beth Milstein ala summer 2006 (interim), while they are scrambling trying to secure or find a new head writer.

And that's my message of hope.
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Woohoo! He brought a lot of good stuff to the show (or his regime did), but the show is pretty terrible right now and showing no signs of improving so I am glad some changes are being made.
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Feb 19 2016, 06:51 PM
In trying to find a little spark of optimism in this dark crap hole last night, all I could find was the glimmer of hope that Higley is still on LOA. In which case, she'd still officially be the head writer that's left with Griffith leaving, but not actually, physically, going back to work. Ryan Quan is Beth Milstein ala summer 2006 (interim), while they are scrambling trying to secure or find a new head writer.

And that's my message of hope.
Yeah, there is that slim possibility. But I mean, if Dena's not coming back, why not announce her exit already? I assume her contract was as long as Griffith's, so if it was a year contract, they could just release her at this point.

The fact that they never officially confirmed Dena's LOA or Beth joining is interesting, though.

God, I hope you're somehow right.

Another name I saw thrown out there today as a possible replacement is Sri Rao. He wrote for GH: Night Shift, a GH spinoff from the 2000s. I didn't watch, but a lot of people seemed to like it. And according to a tweet from January, he'd still be interesting in head writing GH if given the opportunity. He's also Indian American, if I'm not mistaken. An Indian and Asian American heading a soap? Damn. Call him up, Days!

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Feb 19 2016, 07:01 AM
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Feb 19 2016, 06:24 AM
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Feb 19 2016, 03:14 AM

Rafe will be on everyday and if she's forced to give up Rope, she will just try to start a new supercouple for him. I wouldn't be surprised if Tamara Braun returned as Taylor and she tried to make her the show's leading lady.


I couldn't find Hugo's original post, so I copied and pasted. But what I want to know is, why do you say that Tamara Braun returned as Taylor and Higley making her the leading lady? First of all, Tamara is currently on the show as Ava, a role she won the Emmy for. Taylor in the incarnation of both Natalia Livingston and Tamara was a disaster, so no chance that character darkens "Days'" door again. As for making Tamara the show's leading lady, I can tell you Tamara wouldn't want that. If she did sign a long term deal, she wouldn't want to usurp any of the ladies who are currently the leading ones. So I don't know where you're getting that from.
It's pure speculation on my part based on the assumptions that:
1. Higley adores Tamara Braun
2. Ava has been killed off

I don't really think it will happen but I won't be shocked if it does.
So what if Higley adores Tamara. I adore Tamara, but I don't want her sticking around a sinking boat or having to be made a mockery by a writer who clearly has no direction for her. And clearly I'm not a fan of Higley's ability to write for Tamara. This is what happened on GH when Charles Pratt and Bob Guza kept having her Carly as a retainer for Sonny and not going full steam ahead with the more favoured pairing for Carly with Lorenzo. Then Tamara left GH in 2005. She came to DOOL back in Feb 2008 with what I thought was going to be a killer story and being able to be paired with another of my favourite actors on daytime in Stephen Nichols. Half way through that story though, suddenly she was being flung into John and Marlena's story without reason. Then she goes to AMC where she's going to be paired with an iconic daytime character in Bianca, none other than the daughter of Erica Kane. So then this idea of this groundbreaking story with the first gay wedding on daytime television, comes, and what does Charles Pratt do? Has Reese kissing the husband of her wife-to-be's sister. So that automatically made her persona non grata on that show because of the shoddy writing. So come 2011, it's announced Tamara is coming back to Days, but not as Ava (her Emmy Award Winning Role) but as a recast Taylor, a character who wasn't well liked because of Natalia Livingston and the "scarfmance" stupidity, but also because of the Ejami and Ejole fans who were hitting the roof because she was an interloper. So once again Tamara is written off (September 2011). Then last July it's announced Tamara is coming back as Ava. Well talk about having hope that finally she would be getting the writing worthy of her. Nope! If any of what we're seeing is anything Higley has written, or the indicator of where she plans on going with Ava should Tamara sign long-term.... As a dedicated Tamara Braun fan, I don't want it and won't watch. So even if as you say Higley adores Tamara, her writing sure hasn't proven that one bit.

As to the second point, tell me where has Ava been "killed off"? She wasn't killed off the last time, and I doubt she will be IF Higley as as fond her as you say. But again, this card carrying Tamara Braun fan has nothing to be happy about considering the crap they've given her so far.
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