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Griffith OUT!
Topic Started: Feb 18 2016, 06:01 PM (63,270 Views)
Lovejm


cord08
Feb 19 2016, 09:26 PM
Lovejm
Feb 19 2016, 09:16 PM
The idea of a young, gay, Asian writer is really interesting to me. Having him anywhere near Higley frightens me.

If she really hasn't been back from LOA, they could potentially be looking for an experienced head writer to pair him with. So they're letting her return from LOA (where it's nearly impossible to fire someone from) and they'll replace her in the next few months once they have someone.

It could also tie into the extended break.
Gosh, now you're giving me more hope about this LOA thing. Ack. I cannot get my hopes up. LOL.

I mean, my gut says Higley's back and Josh got pushed out. Josh really seemed to like writing for Days, so I'm not sure why he'd just leave on his own. However, Josh was also allegedly fired from Y&R for creative differences and/or inability to work with the EP. So, maybe Higley wasn't the only reason he left/got fired. Maybe he had issues with someone else?

I know I'm grasping at straws here, but this whole situation is just so strange, and I want to be proven wrong on this whole thing about Dena.
I think the thing we can hold onto is that from all reports Higley hasn't even been back in the door yet. So while it's possible this was her return and pushed him out, maybe they weren't happy with either of them. So they let him go if it was that bad and figured they'd hang onto her until that can find someone. I mean someone has to be at least pretending to write until they get someone
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cord08
Feb 19 2016, 08:44 PM
Markc54
Feb 19 2016, 08:39 PM
Just an FYI, Ryan Quan's FB profile says he's in a relationship with Neil Hultgren.
Is Neil with the show? I guess I'm not sure why Ryan's relationship status is relevant? Lots of people in front of and behind the camera at soaps are gay. :shrug:
Isn't Josh Griffith gay?

I mean, it may be a big deal if he has a limited time to tell story and those characters available. He may take that chance and run with it.

Young, pretty new, Asian, gay? It'd be refreshing... if Dena is on that LOA or physically kept away. If not, the poor guy doesn't stand a chance of making a difference.
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Kenny
Feb 19 2016, 09:26 PM
Alex
Feb 19 2016, 09:13 PM
What did Dena do hen she wrote OLTL ?




Omg. .I remember that.
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cord08
Feb 19 2016, 09:26 PM
I mean, my gut says Higley's back and Josh got pushed out. Josh really seemed to like writing for Days, so I'm not sure why he'd just leave on his own. However, Josh was also allegedly fired from Y&R for creative differences and/or inability to work with the EP. So, maybe Higley wasn't the only reason he left/got fired. Maybe he had issues with someone else?

I know I'm grasping at straws here, but this whole situation is just so strange, and I want to be proven wrong on this whole thing about Dena.
That EP was Jill Farren Phelps. So... that's nothing to make a judgment on, JFP's record speaks for itself. Josh wasn't the first or the last in that situation.
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In a desperate attempt to cling to anything positive from this news I completely overlooked that it wouldn't be the first LGBT writer for Will & Sonny. I'm coming back down to earth now ^_^
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urbanlegend
Feb 19 2016, 09:37 PM
In a desperate attempt to cling to anything positive from this news I completely overlooked that it wouldn't be the first LGBT writer for Will & Sonny. I'm coming back down to earth now ^_^
My focus is more on the fact that he's unknown to us, really. He's not someone we already know is a hack. That's a big deal.

IF he's left alone.
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Lovejm
Feb 19 2016, 09:28 PM
cord08
Feb 19 2016, 09:26 PM
Lovejm
Feb 19 2016, 09:16 PM
The idea of a young, gay, Asian writer is really interesting to me. Having him anywhere near Higley frightens me.

If she really hasn't been back from LOA, they could potentially be looking for an experienced head writer to pair him with. So they're letting her return from LOA (where it's nearly impossible to fire someone from) and they'll replace her in the next few months once they have someone.

It could also tie into the extended break.
Gosh, now you're giving me more hope about this LOA thing. Ack. I cannot get my hopes up. LOL.

I mean, my gut says Higley's back and Josh got pushed out. Josh really seemed to like writing for Days, so I'm not sure why he'd just leave on his own. However, Josh was also allegedly fired from Y&R for creative differences and/or inability to work with the EP. So, maybe Higley wasn't the only reason he left/got fired. Maybe he had issues with someone else?

I know I'm grasping at straws here, but this whole situation is just so strange, and I want to be proven wrong on this whole thing about Dena.
I think the thing we can hold onto is that from all reports Higley hasn't even been back in the door yet. So while it's possible this was her return and pushed him out, maybe they weren't happy with either of them. So they let him go if it was that bad and figured they'd hang onto her until that can find someone. I mean someone has to be at least pretending to write until they get someone
Maybe that's part of the reason they "stopped" writing? Because they fired Josh and Dena was still on LOA?

I mean, even though I wish they weren't so far ahead, it is still strange to me that they'd go on hiatus right now unless there's something else going on. Trying to put in a new writing team (sans Dena) would make some sense.

Sigh. Yep, yep. The seven stages of grief. :blulaugh:
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Feb 19 2016, 09:39 PM
urbanlegend
Feb 19 2016, 09:37 PM
In a desperate attempt to cling to anything positive from this news I completely overlooked that it wouldn't be the first LGBT writer for Will & Sonny. I'm coming back down to earth now ^_^
My focus is more on the fact that he's unknown to us, really. He's not someone we already know is a hack. That's a big deal.

IF he's left alone.
I like that he learned under Reilly.

Say what you want about his writing style, but the man could craft the fuck out of a storyline.
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Feb 19 2016, 09:36 PM
cord08
Feb 19 2016, 09:26 PM
I mean, my gut says Higley's back and Josh got pushed out. Josh really seemed to like writing for Days, so I'm not sure why he'd just leave on his own. However, Josh was also allegedly fired from Y&R for creative differences and/or inability to work with the EP. So, maybe Higley wasn't the only reason he left/got fired. Maybe he had issues with someone else?

I know I'm grasping at straws here, but this whole situation is just so strange, and I want to be proven wrong on this whole thing about Dena.
That EP was Jill Farren Phelps. So... that's nothing to make a judgment on, JFP's record speaks for itself. Josh wasn't the first or the last in that situation.
Too true. Sigh.
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cord08
Feb 19 2016, 07:16 PM
..... if Dena's not coming back, why not announce her exit already? I assume her contract was as long as Griffith's, so if it was a year contract, they could just release her at this point....
Broken contracts can lead to litigation, which can lead to huge huge huge expenses. Expenses that would make Corday, Sony and NBC extremely unhappy. Unnecessary expenses will doom the show. That's all we need, some judge awarding DHig $10M if KennyBoy fails to meet the terms of the agreement.

Only the attorneys involved know specifically what is in the contract. It's very possible that there is a waiver/citation of some type that "voids" the time spent away from the job (sorta like how you don't accrue "company benefits" when you are on Maternity/Paternity/Medical leave or take an unpaid sabattical.) That may have even been part of the LOA arangement. DHig takes time off unexpectedly, and her contract is automatically extended to match the original length. Of course, that meant she wasn't likely paid during a LOA, which is how it would be with independent contractors

I have no clue how much headwriters make (300K? 500k? 75K?), but I also think that could be part of the reason she's still officially around. Maybe she is "affordable", sorta like the new designated co-head.

Anyway, her agenda won't be on our screens until after the Olympics. I have a feeling the unspoken part of this story is that the stories that JG crafted and taped are dreadful and we may be begging for a change by July.......
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Feb 19 2016, 09:47 PM
cord08
Feb 19 2016, 07:16 PM
..... if Dena's not coming back, why not announce her exit already? I assume her contract was as long as Griffith's, so if it was a year contract, they could just release her at this point....
Broken contracts can lead to litigation, which can lead to huge huge huge expenses. Expenses that would make Corday, Sony and NBC extremely unhappy. Unnecessary expenses will doom the show. That's all we need, some judge awarding DHig $10M if KennyBoy fails to meet the terms of the agreement.

Only the attorneys involved know specifically what is in the contract. It's very possible that there is a waiver/citation of some type that "voids" the time spent away from the job (sorta like how you don't accrue "company benefits" when you are on Maternity/Paternity/Medical leave or take an unpaid sabattical.) That may have even been part of the LOA arangement. DHig takes time off unexpectedly, and her contract is automatically extended to match the original length. Of course, that meant she wasn't likely paid during a LOA, which is how it would be with independent contractors

I have no clue how much headwriters make (300K? 500k? 75K?), but I also think that could be part of the reason she's still officially around. Maybe she is "affordable", sorta like the new designated co-head.

Anyway, her agenda won't be on our screens until after the Olympics. I have a feeling the unspoken part of this story is that the stories that JG crafted and taped are dreadful and we may be begging for a change by July.......
Nah KC is usually at least six months past the crappy writing airing before he makes a change lol

But you have an entirely possible point about the contract. It may still be valid with the LOA time removed.
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nananana7
Feb 19 2016, 09:04 PM
The Neil/Will kiss was hot.
Way way way way hotter than any moment between Jackson and Will. Lightyears and lightyears hotter than any moment portrayed by Guy Wilson.
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Feb 18 2016, 10:46 PM
kay
Feb 18 2016, 10:38 PM
Dreamy
Feb 18 2016, 06:51 PM
Now, Stayla is gone too? JG loved them!
Where did you see that information?
It was in interviews that JG loved them and was a huge of theirs.
I meant that "Stayla are gone."
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Feb 19 2016, 10:37 PM
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Feb 18 2016, 10:46 PM
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Feb 18 2016, 10:38 PM

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It was in interviews that JG loved them and was a huge of theirs.
I meant that "Stayla are gone."
I think that's speculation by fans. MBE and SN don't come "cheap," and Dena's writing for them is pretty questionable. So, if she's back and the budget's slashed, they may get cut.
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Alex
Feb 19 2016, 09:13 PM
What did Dena do hen she wrote OLTL ?
She also was behind Victor Jr.'s execution after Margaret and Spencer Truman faked her death and then Spencer somehow wiped her memory.
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Feb 19 2016, 05:32 AM
lysie
Feb 19 2016, 01:32 AM
Anyone want to help me send toilet paper to the set?
Do you want Cottonelle with Aloe & E or Cottonelle Extra Strength?
Get Walmart brand. That's all Dena's worth. ;)
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for the life of me i cant understand why they rehired dena higley in the first place. last time she wrote for days every strong female became a whiney sniveling crying depandant on a man woman or wanna be woman. the show lost ratings and viewers. now with this go around she is killing off everyone she either doesnt care for as a character ( or actor) and destroyed will and sonny. she is slowly destroying hope and taking rafe down to, soon there wont be anyone but the new generation of teenagers to watch. it is no wonder everyone is leaving when their contract is up. only good and interesting thing to watch is andre and diemos anymore
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Feb 19 2016, 05:57 PM
4ever DAYS
Feb 19 2016, 02:06 AM
lysie
Feb 19 2016, 02:00 AM
So here'd the thing. For those unhappy with Dena, we're really in a lurch here. We complain about Dena and they do what? Bring back Tomlin, Whitesell, or both. So I mean...be specific.
A campaign to fire Dena should be done in conjunction with a campaign to hire Sheri Anderson. If Sheri can't commit because of lousy pay, then fundraising should be a part of the campaign.
From what I've heard, Sheri's issue isn't money at all... it's the lack of freedom in getting to tell stories (which is what a headwriter is hired to do, tell stories.) Which is what troubled Sheffer his entire run. And IMO, probably what made Griffith walk or got him released from his contract.
Yeah, I think it's entirely possible that JG heard/was receiving more pressure from the TPTB to write for certain people and not others. That's another reason I'm nervous about the status of J/M and S/K. Josh allegedly loved writing for them, and if TPTB told him that they had to be backburnered (now or in the future), he might have balked and walked.

Damn. The more I think about it, the more that makes sense. Ugh.
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Feb 19 2016, 11:12 PM
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From what I've heard, Sheri's issue isn't money at all... it's the lack of freedom in getting to tell stories (which is what a headwriter is hired to do, tell stories.) Which is what troubled Sheffer his entire run. And IMO, probably what made Griffith walk or got him released from his contract.
Yeah, I think it's entirely possible that JG heard/was receiving more pressure from the TPTB to write for certain people and not others. That's another reason I'm nervous about the status of J/M and S/K. Josh allegedly loved writing for them, and if TPTB told him that they had to be backburnered (now or in the future), he might have balked and walked.

Damn. The more I think about it, the more that makes sense. Ugh.
Nah I don't think it was that specific. He probably wanted to get out of dodge before she got back.
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I like the theory that her LOA continues and that for sone reason she has not been let go yet. Maybe her replacement will be announced in a couple of months when Days returns from the hiatus.
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