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Griffith OUT!
Topic Started: Feb 18 2016, 06:01 PM (63,259 Views)
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lysie
Feb 22 2016, 01:32 PM
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Feb 22 2016, 01:28 PM
Restless84
Feb 22 2016, 01:20 PM
We all pretty much knew something like this happened, but Jamey Giddens is reporting (from his sources) that Josh quit.
Well that's better than the show choosing Higley over Griffith.
Well they technically did. They let him quit rather than dump her.
So he was essentially goaded into the quitting the show, backstage Days continues to be far more compelling than the actual show.
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Hugo
Feb 22 2016, 01:41 PM
So Griffith quit because they told him he had to work with Higley again? :facepalm:
Griffith seems to be a person who likes to work quietly without conflicts or tension. He couldn't work with Maria Arena Bell and Jill Farren Phelps on Y&R. Dena is too irrational to be JG's partner.
Edited by thepadange, Feb 23 2016, 09:58 AM.
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Feb 22 2016, 01:43 PM
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Feb 22 2016, 01:31 PM
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Feb 22 2016, 01:28 PM

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Josh couldn't even stand to be in the same room with Dena. Jamie is essentially backing up what has been reported in this thread. The stories from Ciara's rape onward (when Dena went on her LOA) are Josh's stories sans Dena.
Is he doing a podcast?
It's on this week's new DC podcast on iTunes. That's the only place it's avalaible to listen to right now. DC should have it up on their website this week. Someone was tweeting what Jamey said.
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Feb 22 2016, 01:51 PM
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Feb 22 2016, 01:43 PM
Restless84
Feb 22 2016, 01:31 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep
Is he doing a podcast?
It's on this week's new DC podcast on iTunes. That's the only place it's avalaible to listen to right now. DC should have it up on their website this week. Someone was tweeting what Jamey said.
Thanks.
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Feb 22 2016, 11:40 AM
I'm lost.

Is there supposed to be something wrong with Dena Higley's confession of depression, etc?

I'm bewildered by "MagentaPoppy's" use of it as some kind of proof or evidence that people with depression shouldn't have jobs.

Dena Higley is a bad writer. What does her depression have to do with it?
As someone who has also struggled with depression for many years, and who has struggled with anxiety and knows what it's like to love a job it turns out you're not right for, one problem is that she keeps being chosen for a job she's not right for. Both because she's a terrible writer for this show, but more importantly because working for this show is not good for her. According to her own words.

The fellow human being in me also thinks someone (either she or someone else) needs to friggin' put her health first. She herself says this job does unhealthy things to her. I LOVED my job, I was good at it, but your health should always, always come first. In this case, that may also mean keeping hundreds of people employed for another year, keeping this woman healthy (which she deserves to be) and fans happy. I despise every story and character destructive move this woman has done for this show I love, but aside from what *I* selfishly want for the show, I truly hope she chooses health. I can separate person and work.

She herself says this job made her sick, that it made her unhappy. And I don't know if it's some form of pride or just a lack of self-awareness about it that makes her insist on trying again and again, but it should stop. They tried, it made her sick and she destroyed the show.
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Jamey also said that, contrary to popular belief, the murders were a joint story pitch. It wasn't all Josh.

This just pisses me off even more. I really wonder what story it was that prompted Dena's LOA if the SK stuff was a joint effort. Frankly, I don't blame Josh for quitting if he couldn't stand her. He obviously knows when to walk away if something is just not working and detrimental to your work life.
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Feb 22 2016, 02:30 PM
Jamey also said that, contrary to popular belief, the murders were a joint story pitch. It wasn't all Josh.

This just pisses me off even more. I really wonder what story it was that prompted Dena's LOA if the SK stuff was a joint effort. Frankly, I don't blame Josh for quitting if he couldn't stand her. He obviously knows when to walk away if something is just not working and detrimental to your work life.

Maybe it wasn't a story, maybe they just couldn't work together.
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cord08
Feb 22 2016, 02:30 PM
Jamey also said that, contrary to popular belief, the murders were a joint story pitch. It wasn't all Josh.

This just pisses me off even more. I really wonder what story it was that prompted Dena's LOA if the SK stuff was a joint effort. Frankly, I don't blame Josh for quitting if he couldn't stand her. He obviously knows when to walk away if something is just not working and detrimental to your work life.
Popular belief? Funny. I haven't seen that. I did see Dena say it was inherited from TomSell, though. The LOA happened a few months after the SK stuff. The LOA happened during what we just watched.
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lysie
Feb 22 2016, 02:44 PM
cord08
Feb 22 2016, 02:30 PM
Jamey also said that, contrary to popular belief, the murders were a joint story pitch. It wasn't all Josh.

This just pisses me off even more. I really wonder what story it was that prompted Dena's LOA if the SK stuff was a joint effort. Frankly, I don't blame Josh for quitting if he couldn't stand her. He obviously knows when to walk away if something is just not working and detrimental to your work life.
Popular belief? Funny. I haven't seen that. I did see Dena say it was inherited from TomSell, though. The LOA happened a few months after the SK stuff. The LOA happened during what we just watched.
Yeah, I always assumed the SK story was a joint effort because of Dena's comment about inheriting it.
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Feb 22 2016, 02:53 PM
lysie
Feb 22 2016, 02:44 PM
cord08
Feb 22 2016, 02:30 PM
Jamey also said that, contrary to popular belief, the murders were a joint story pitch. It wasn't all Josh.

This just pisses me off even more. I really wonder what story it was that prompted Dena's LOA if the SK stuff was a joint effort. Frankly, I don't blame Josh for quitting if he couldn't stand her. He obviously knows when to walk away if something is just not working and detrimental to your work life.
Popular belief? Funny. I haven't seen that. I did see Dena say it was inherited from TomSell, though. The LOA happened a few months after the SK stuff. The LOA happened during what we just watched.
Yeah, I always assumed the SK story was a joint effort because of Dena's comment about inheriting it.
Corday stated the same. He said they were discussing it a year ago (he said it in August, I think). Maybe it was his idea?
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Corday and dh there is something not right there, meaning what kind of a hold does she have on him! anyone else would be fired if they wrote terrible storey like she does.
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Is it possible that they can't legally fire Head writers if the ratings are high enough, and that's why Dena is still a co-HW?
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thepadange
Feb 22 2016, 03:48 PM
Is it possible that they can't legally fire Head writers if the ratings are high enough, and that's why Dena is still a co-HW?
Well, there are usually a number of different clauses put into contracts, so I suppose it's a possibility. It might explain why the ratings are usually in the toilet for a while before any kind of change occurs. Kind of a shitty way to run a business, IMO, but whatever.

One thing I forgot to add about the DC podcast bit that I listened to is apparently the new co-head, Ryan, is very well-liked and respected at Days. So, I guess there's that.
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thepadange
Feb 22 2016, 03:48 PM
Is it possible that they can't legally fire Head writers if the ratings are high enough, and that's why Dena is still a co-HW?
I still feel like her LOA may have something to do with why she's still there. There may be some weird clause that got screwed up by her being out and her time is still on the clock.

It's also possible that maybe they really almost got caught having zero head writers and are keeping her long enough to find a co for Ryan
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Feb 22 2016, 04:09 PM
thepadange
Feb 22 2016, 03:48 PM
Is it possible that they can't legally fire Head writers if the ratings are high enough, and that's why Dena is still a co-HW?
I still feel like her LOA may have something to do with why she's still there. There may be some weird clause that got screwed up by her being out and her time is still on the clock.

It's also possible that maybe they really almost got caught having zero head writers and are keeping her long enough to find a co for Ryan
I'm not exactly sure what to think anymore.

According to one of the posters here, whom I tend to believe, they were planning to keep Josh until late December/January rolled around. Something changed. Maybe they realized they couldn't fire Dena like they wanted to because of her LOA? The thing is, the lawyers should have known that all along.

The fact that Josh quit, though, makes it sound like he knew he was going to be stuck with Dena again, which would contradict the idea that they were going fire one of them all along. Not unless Josh didn't know that, and up and quit before they could fire Dena. I mean, they probably couldn't tell him they were going to fire Dena. (Not legally, at least).

IF there is any truth to the idea that the show had to keep her through the extent of her LOA timeframe, that would mean that she would at least be there for another four months.
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newlabone
Feb 22 2016, 03:20 PM
Corday and dh there is something not right there, meaning what kind of a hold does she have on him! anyone else would be fired if they wrote terrible storey like she does.


First off, I am scrolling down the posts and did not know that Josh quitted on his own!
Back to your post, newlabone, I did say it in here....and going to say it again since the pages of the posts are long...Dena has worked for Days for quite awhile. She knows the back history of Days also. Days hired her back because of history. I also think that she was hired back because James E. Reilly is dead. James knew how to pull up the ratings. Anyway, I just feel sad that Josh came to his own conclusion of leaving. He should have stuck it out. I guess Days was making him have less control when Dena had more. :shrug: I could very well sense that while watching Days.
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Feb 22 2016, 06:56 PM
newlabone
Feb 22 2016, 03:20 PM
Corday and dh there is something not right there, meaning what kind of a hold does she have on him! anyone else would be fired if they wrote terrible storey like she does.


First off, I am scrolling down the posts and did not know that Josh quitted on his own!
Back to your post, newlabone, I did say it in here....and going to say it again since the pages of the posts are long...Dena has worked for Days for quite awhile. She knows the back history of Days also. Days hired her back because of history. I also think that she was hired back because James E. Reilly is dead. James knew how to pull up the ratings. Anyway, I just feel sad that Josh came to his own conclusion of leaving. He should have stuck it out. I guess Days was making him have less control when Dena had more. :shrug: I could very well sense that while watching Days.
What does hiring Dena have to do with James E. Reilly?
Edited by thepadange, Feb 22 2016, 07:22 PM.
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Feb 20 2016, 06:36 PM
lol Corday showed a big fuck you to all the loyal fans when he re-hired Dena I mean come on fans had campaigned for her dismissal and despite this, she becomes re-employed a few years later. This clearly shows that Corday is not interested in having topnotch writers on his soap he is satisfied with a hack like Dena. What I wonder is why NBC / Sony, did not require who/which would be head writers before renewal of contracts, I mean they are satisfied with Dena ??? Sounds insane in these kinds of cases.
Or he pulled a bait and switch just like his pet Dena did with the Steve/Kayla/Ava story. TB basically said this wasn't the story she was pitched on return.
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Dena doesn't care about the history of the show. She just wants the bragging rights of being head writer. It's a shame that she's more of a head case than a writer.
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I'm curious to know if Ryan will be on set at all, kind of like Josh. Unlike Dena, I'm pretty sure he lives in the area. I think that'd help somewhat.
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