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Griffith OUT!
Topic Started: Feb 18 2016, 06:01 PM (63,255 Views)
daysyrghfan
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I have my fingers crossed that Dena will be out again. I don't know many fans that want her writing for the show and I certainly don 't see the ratings going up with her there.
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daysyrghfan
Feb 24 2016, 11:21 AM
I have my fingers crossed that Dena will be out again. I don't know many fans that want her writing for the show and I certainly don 't see the ratings going up with her there.
It's not only fans that don't want her writing. According to her book (and other sources) TPTB at NBC didn't like her writing either which is even more worrying.
It looked like Sony and NBC had very long and difficult negotiations this year despite the relative good ratings this Fall (They were better than in Fall 2012, and even a little bit better and more consistent than in Fall 2013). Could it be they were concerned about the stability of the writing team?
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PhoenixRising05
Feb 23 2016, 07:10 PM
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Feb 23 2016, 07:06 PM
DaveB81
Feb 23 2016, 06:53 PM
Days could've hired from within and used Lorraine Broderick as HW and even brought back Beth Milstein full time and put them together.

Lorraine is well respected and very talented. She could've filled in easily. She also has 6 Daytime Emmys for writing (5 with AMC and 1 with GL) She came back to AMC and worked wonders after Pratt destroyed the show right before cancellation. To me anyway, it seemed like an easy fit.

As for Josh, He posted a tweet on his Twitter acct before he diactivated back in January where he said "Sometimes you have to know when to fold." He decided to quit then b/c he couldn't work with Hack Higley. It only makes sense
If if it's the same tweet I saw on his @darkstreetsofla account that I was looking at today, that tweet was from January of last year, before his hiring at Days was even announced.

I don't know if I just imagined this or if it was just someone's speculation, but I thought I read somewhere that LB didn't want to be a head writer again.
Yeah, I think it was on SON. Can't recall for sure though.

Actually, I think this goes back to prior to AMC being cancelled when many clamored for her to be the HW there and it was said she would only do it temporarily or something. It seems she has no interest in being a HW long-term. If she had, who knows how that would've changed things.

If Higley is the co-HW, none of the established writers on the team will want to work with her. The Culliton's and Broderick have been writing soaps for years and have experience to be in the HW position but no way would they work with her. Very few in soaps would. I think the only reason the writing team stays in place under her is for the pay check because jobs are so hard to come by.
Thank you for the clarification.
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Feb 23 2016, 07:27 PM
MarDar stunk, even before they were interfered with.

Many praised them for characterization but I didn't even think they were good at that. I did like the show giving two new head writers a chance though. They had worked for the show and it was a worthwhile risk, I felt. I just think they took things too far to the other extreme early on in that they wanted to tell modern stories and, according to them, "unsoap the soap." It's a soap opera. You need to write soap stories with a modern twist or the whole thing just becomes too jarring for the audience. That and they had a way of their stories being devoid of all drama and not having any buildup. Things moved way too fat, even moreso than the pacing we had this past Fall IMO. I don't know. I thought Marlene was good on online AMC so maybe it was Darell that was the bad one but, together, their reign was awful IMO.
I know a lot of people loved that time for J&M, and yes, it was amazing to see them back. D&D were, and are, stunning together and they created plenty of sexy, cute, romantic moments. For me, it was just more of the same "focus on John while Marlena stays in the corner" writing we had already seen before. It reeked of Corday interference and MarDar being told what to do, while also trying to actually find their groove. They were brand new, they needed time to find their ... thing.

Marlena was supporting for Will (which was important stuff, absolutely) and she had such potential with Jack's therapy (that became too little of). Meanwhile, John was either in jail (yet still the focus of the story) or off with Stefano/Hope (seriously, if Stefano could mix it up with marriages, he absolutely would have had Marlena marry him while he had her late 80s/early 90s, come on!). Again. And while the rest of the show wasn't awful, it was like terrible... it was dull as hell. SO DULL. I guess the "Ejami cheating" was supposed to be exciting and "you'll never see it coming", but a) no thanks and b) who didn't see that coming? So it wasn't bad or offensive, it was just boring.

Still... I'd have them back ten times over Tomsell or Higley.
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Crazy thought....did Higley have something to do with JC leaving?
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pinkcovergirl
Feb 24 2016, 01:55 PM
Crazy thought....did Higley have something to do with JC leaving?
Just a wild guess on my part, but I think JC is really very over Days and probably just came back as a favor to PR and/or to participate in the 50th. I know he's intimated in the past (I think when he was on GH) that Days was lame and ridiculous in terms of the writing on the show.
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Jason Cook did an interview a few months ago, in which he said the show wanted him to stay longer, but he didn't want to. He had other projects in the works. He also said he likes directing more than acting.
Edited by nananana7, Feb 24 2016, 02:08 PM.
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Feb 24 2016, 02:07 PM
Jason Cook did an interview a few months ago, in which he said the show wanted him to stay longer, but he didn't want to. He had other projects in the works. He also said he likes directing more than acting.
I've seen that too but still had to wonder if he left before his stint was up to avoid Higley.
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pinkcovergirl
Feb 24 2016, 03:21 PM
nananana7
Feb 24 2016, 02:07 PM
Jason Cook did an interview a few months ago, in which he said the show wanted him to stay longer, but he didn't want to. He had other projects in the works. He also said he likes directing more than acting.
I've seen that too but still had to wonder if he left before his stint was up to avoid Higley.
I doubt it. The actors really don't know that much about writer drama. He left because he's not into acting anymore. He didn't avoid Higley anyway.
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pinkcovergirl
Feb 24 2016, 03:21 PM
nananana7
Feb 24 2016, 02:07 PM
Jason Cook did an interview a few months ago, in which he said the show wanted him to stay longer, but he didn't want to. He had other projects in the works. He also said he likes directing more than acting.
I've seen that too but still had to wonder if he left before his stint was up to avoid Higley.
Was he on recurring? It's not"very easy" (it would cost a lot) to be released earlier if you have a contract.
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Feb 24 2016, 01:25 PM
PhoenixRising05
Feb 23 2016, 07:27 PM
MarDar stunk, even before they were interfered with.

Many praised them for characterization but I didn't even think they were good at that. I did like the show giving two new head writers a chance though. They had worked for the show and it was a worthwhile risk, I felt. I just think they took things too far to the other extreme early on in that they wanted to tell modern stories and, according to them, "unsoap the soap." It's a soap opera. You need to write soap stories with a modern twist or the whole thing just becomes too jarring for the audience. That and they had a way of their stories being devoid of all drama and not having any buildup. Things moved way too fat, even moreso than the pacing we had this past Fall IMO. I don't know. I thought Marlene was good on online AMC so maybe it was Darell that was the bad one but, together, their reign was awful IMO.
I know a lot of people loved that time for J&M, and yes, it was amazing to see them back. D&D were, and are, stunning together and they created plenty of sexy, cute, romantic moments. For me, it was just more of the same "focus on John while Marlena stays in the corner" writing we had already seen before. It reeked of Corday interference and MarDar being told what to do, while also trying to actually find their groove. They were brand new, they needed time to find their ... thing.

Marlena was supporting for Will (which was important stuff, absolutely) and she had such potential with Jack's therapy (that became too little of). Meanwhile, John was either in jail (yet still the focus of the story) or off with Stefano/Hope (seriously, if Stefano could mix it up with marriages, he absolutely would have had Marlena marry him while he had her late 80s/early 90s, come on!). Again. And while the rest of the show wasn't awful, it was like terrible... it was dull as hell. SO DULL. I guess the "Ejami cheating" was supposed to be exciting and "you'll never see it coming", but a) no thanks and b) who didn't see that coming? So it wasn't bad or offensive, it was just boring.

Still... I'd have them back ten times over Tomsell or Higley.
That's the time I started watching Days (right after AMC went off the air) and I liked John's story...but Marlena's story in guiding Will to discover & come to terms with his sexual orientation as well as her working with Jack on his PTSD & group therapy could & should have been GOLD.

alas...Corday & company went the assbackwards wrong way & jacked it all up by getting rid of Jack & J&J for Fetch...


Granted, there was a LOT wrong with some storylines back then, but if they'd have sat back & looked at what worked and what could be scrapped -vs- expanded upon, they could have had a hell of a lot better stuff now, IMO than what we're stuck with - which is Bummer, Haggie, Creature & Nicole's meek & meager nice Twin along with other boring nonsense... :yawnz:
Edited by No1_ILoveLucyFan, Feb 24 2016, 03:48 PM.
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What I don't understand is, if the writers are contracted why can't Higley's contract be bought out? Why does the show have to let her finish out her contract?
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Goldielox
Feb 24 2016, 06:23 PM
What I don't understand is, if the writers are contracted why can't Higley's contract be bought out? Why does the show have to let her finish out her contract?
If she doesn't want to leave, she can't be "bought out" of anything. And if she's still sick, she should still be on that LOA - it gives her rights, probably keeps her with a better than average medical insurance too.
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pinkcovergirl
Feb 24 2016, 01:55 PM
Crazy thought....did Higley have something to do with JC leaving?


Jason Cook had his own career plans and it interfered with Days! Even Ken Corday wanted him to stay on!
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Restless84
Feb 23 2016, 07:20 PM
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Feb 23 2016, 07:13 PM
thepadange
Feb 23 2016, 06:33 PM

Quoting limited to 3 levels deep I agree with some people, they will hate the head writers because of the storylines. I do want to mention though, most did not hate Marlene and Darrell. Apparently though, Days cut them short. They were the ones to get things excited again.


I did not looked Marlene Darrell ratings for Days...Some things were good and others were not. Most did like them because the vets was on. Will coming out that he was the one who stabbed EJ. The grief sex that untangle EJAMI from the rut. Lucas was back....

About Josh and Dena...I believe the show was at its best back in September to November! After that, it was not that good! Plus, like I said on this board...maybe not quite the same....Ken Corday is going to favor Dena over everyone else because she has been with Days for a quite awhile now. I don't think at this moment, he wants to get rid of her.
Will stabbed EJ? I think you meant shot him.

I didn't like much from MarDar. Grief sex was disgusting.





My bad on the wording of Will...yes Will shot EJ and that's due to the writers hearing from the fans! I think Marlene and Darrell wanted to write for their fans, instead of the normal way, the writers write and we respond. And yes from this EJAMI fan, the grief sex was disgusting...but Days saw the reaction of the fans who wanted EJ and Sami together. I was excited when I saw the spoiler of November 2011, and thought after the grief sex, 'what did I actually saw?' :wtf:

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nananana7
Feb 24 2016, 02:07 PM
Jason Cook did an interview a few months ago, in which he said the show wanted him to stay longer, but he didn't want to. He had other projects in the works. He also said he likes directing more than acting.
Given how 'Shawn' only said about 5 lines when Cook was in the role this last time, I find it hard to believe they wanted him to stay.
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Feb 25 2016, 09:37 AM
nananana7
Feb 24 2016, 02:07 PM
Jason Cook did an interview a few months ago, in which he said the show wanted him to stay longer, but he didn't want to. He had other projects in the works. He also said he likes directing more than acting.
Given how 'Shawn' only said about 5 lines when Cook was in the role this last time, I find it hard to believe they wanted him to stay.
I think like half of Jason's scenes were cut, they only kept the most important ones, they probably didn't want the viewers to get used to Jason again, knowing that Brandon was taking back the role a few weeks later.
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Feb 25 2016, 09:54 AM
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Feb 25 2016, 09:37 AM
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Feb 24 2016, 02:07 PM
Jason Cook did an interview a few months ago, in which he said the show wanted him to stay longer, but he didn't want to. He had other projects in the works. He also said he likes directing more than acting.
Given how 'Shawn' only said about 5 lines when Cook was in the role this last time, I find it hard to believe they wanted him to stay.
I think like half of Jason's scenes were cut, they only kept the most important ones, they probably didn't want the viewers to get used to Jason again, knowing that Brandon was taking back the role a few weeks later.
I never cared for Jason. I didn't like BB before, but I like him a lot better now. I'm glad we got BB.
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If this last week is an indication of Josh's writing, not quite sure what all the hand wringing is all about
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First off changes don't happen the day the writers changes are announced. Things that are put in play take some time to play out. March will be more telling. But Griffith is immaterial. Higley is bad regardless of Josh. Maybe Josh would work for this show. maybe he wouldn't. I really don't know that we have or even will ever see a full story from him. But Dena does not work. Mid December-February were terrible. The part where March might not be better. That's a whole other issue. But Dena, clearly, clearly, clearly doesn't work for this show.
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