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Griffith OUT!
Topic Started: Feb 18 2016, 06:01 PM (63,253 Views)
thepadange
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Hugo
Feb 25 2016, 09:54 AM
FanODays
Feb 25 2016, 09:37 AM
nananana7
Feb 24 2016, 02:07 PM
Jason Cook did an interview a few months ago, in which he said the show wanted him to stay longer, but he didn't want to. He had other projects in the works. He also said he likes directing more than acting.
Given how 'Shawn' only said about 5 lines when Cook was in the role this last time, I find it hard to believe they wanted him to stay.
I think like half of Jason's scenes were cut, they only kept the most important ones, they probably didn't want the viewers to get used to Jason again, knowing that Brandon was taking back the role a few weeks later.
They knew he wasn't staying, so I don't see a reason for taping and then cutting his scenes. :shrug:
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thepadange
Feb 25 2016, 02:18 PM
Hugo
Feb 25 2016, 09:54 AM
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Feb 25 2016, 09:37 AM

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I think like half of Jason's scenes were cut, they only kept the most important ones, they probably didn't want the viewers to get used to Jason again, knowing that Brandon was taking back the role a few weeks later.
They knew he wasn't staying, so I don't see a reason for taping and then cutting his scenes. :shrug:
It was said they did everything they could to try to keep him. I think at the time of taping the scenes, they were still trying to persuade him. After he left, they had to recast and I think that is when they decided to cut the scenes because they knew the character would be returning a month after JC left and they wanted the transition to be as easy as possible.

I will say this, though. Alot of the stuff with Shawn and Belle was cut right around the time Dena's influence started to hit so maybe his cut scenes had to do with that transition as well.
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sitrian
Feb 25 2016, 01:29 PM
First off changes don't happen the day the writers changes are announced. Things that are put in play take some time to play out. March will be more telling. But Griffith is immaterial. Higley is bad regardless of Josh. Maybe Josh would work for this show. maybe he wouldn't. I really don't know that we have or even will ever see a full story from him. But Dena does not work. Mid December-February were terrible. The part where March might not be better. That's a whole other issue. But Dena, clearly, clearly, clearly doesn't work for this show.
This is very well put.

I like Josh and I like alot of what he has done. However, he's not perfect and I'm not even convinced he is the best fit. I would like to see him get a solid chance without Higley to be able to figure that out.

If they got rid of Josh to promote Broderick or someone else from the writing team or to hire someone else not named Higley or Tomsell (although I could probably accept them more than Higley), I wouldn't mind. I would hate that Josh never got a decent chance but I wouldn't mind and would be open to seeing what a fresh writer could bring. The issue is he is leaving because of Higley, whose had her chances to write this show and has failed at every turn. if I felt Quan could in some way influence things, maybe I would feel better but he's not going to be able to do a damn thing. He has no experience in a position like that and Dena has railroaded some of most experienced head writers so this isn't good.
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Feb 25 2016, 02:50 PM
thepadange
Feb 25 2016, 02:18 PM
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Feb 25 2016, 09:54 AM

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They knew he wasn't staying, so I don't see a reason for taping and then cutting his scenes. :shrug:
It was said they did everything they could to try to keep him. I think at the time of taping the scenes, they were still trying to persuade him. After he left, they had to recast and I think that is when they decided to cut the scenes because they knew the character would be returning a month after JC left and they wanted the transition to be as easy as possible.

I will say this, though. Alot of the stuff with Shawn and Belle was cut right around the time Dena's influence started to hit so maybe his cut scenes had to do with that transition as well.
IDK, might be. But if soaps want an actor long-term they typically sign a one (or 2, 3, 4) year contract. JC apparently didn't want to sign a long-term contract. It would have been very naive for them to believe he would change his mind after taping for several weeks. And they needed to look for a recast (to contact BB) at the same time, so they had not so much time to wait. I think, they tried to persuade him and offered him whatever they could before he even started taping. I might be wrong though.

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dms
Feb 25 2016, 01:22 PM
If this last week is an indication of Josh's writing, not quite sure what all the hand wringing is all about
I'm not sure how to be more clear. The hand wringing isn't about Josh. It's about Dena.
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lysie
Feb 25 2016, 05:07 PM
dms
Feb 25 2016, 01:22 PM
If this last week is an indication of Josh's writing, not quite sure what all the hand wringing is all about
I'm not sure how to be more clear. The hand wringing isn't about Josh. It's about Dena.
I think the title of this thread should be changed from "Griffith out" to "Dena staying!!" Lol.
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Feb 25 2016, 05:07 PM
dms
Feb 25 2016, 01:22 PM
If this last week is an indication of Josh's writing, not quite sure what all the hand wringing is all about
I'm not sure how to be more clear. The hand wringing isn't about Josh. It's about Dena.
I hope Dena will be gone too! But I couldn't agree more that I didn't shed a single tear about Josh being gone!
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Feb 23 2016, 07:27 PM
MarDar stunk, even before they were interfered with.

Many praised them for characterization but I didn't even think they were good at that. I did like the show giving two new head writers a chance though. They had worked for the show and it was a worthwhile risk, I felt. I just think they took things too far to the other extreme early on in that they wanted to tell modern stories and, according to them, "unsoap the soap." It's a soap opera. You need to write soap stories with a modern twist or the whole thing just becomes too jarring for the audience. That and they had a way of their stories being devoid of all drama and not having any buildup. Things moved way too fat, even moreso than the pacing we had this past Fall IMO. I don't know. I thought Marlene was good on online AMC so maybe it was Darell that was the bad one but, together, their reign was awful IMO.
I actually liked MarDar's last (messy) six months more than their first (boring) six months.
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Feb 25 2016, 10:33 PM
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Feb 23 2016, 07:27 PM
MarDar stunk, even before they were interfered with.

Many praised them for characterization but I didn't even think they were good at that. I did like the show giving two new head writers a chance though. They had worked for the show and it was a worthwhile risk, I felt. I just think they took things too far to the other extreme early on in that they wanted to tell modern stories and, according to them, "unsoap the soap." It's a soap opera. You need to write soap stories with a modern twist or the whole thing just becomes too jarring for the audience. That and they had a way of their stories being devoid of all drama and not having any buildup. Things moved way too fat, even moreso than the pacing we had this past Fall IMO. I don't know. I thought Marlene was good on online AMC so maybe it was Darell that was the bad one but, together, their reign was awful IMO.
I actually liked MarDar's last (messy) six months more than their first (boring) six months.
I can agree with this.

Actually, even though it was sloppy (as you mentioned) from Stefano's (death) through when Tomsell took over, it did get better. The stories had a bit more flow and everything seemed more focused. The only issue was the stories stunk.
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Feb 26 2016, 01:00 AM
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Feb 25 2016, 10:33 PM
PhoenixRising05
Feb 23 2016, 07:27 PM
MarDar stunk, even before they were interfered with.

Many praised them for characterization but I didn't even think they were good at that. I did like the show giving two new head writers a chance though. They had worked for the show and it was a worthwhile risk, I felt. I just think they took things too far to the other extreme early on in that they wanted to tell modern stories and, according to them, "unsoap the soap." It's a soap opera. You need to write soap stories with a modern twist or the whole thing just becomes too jarring for the audience. That and they had a way of their stories being devoid of all drama and not having any buildup. Things moved way too fat, even moreso than the pacing we had this past Fall IMO. I don't know. I thought Marlene was good on online AMC so maybe it was Darell that was the bad one but, together, their reign was awful IMO.
I actually liked MarDar's last (messy) six months more than their first (boring) six months.
I can agree with this.

Actually, even though it was sloppy (as you mentioned) from Stefano's (death) through when Tomsell took over, it did get better. The stories had a bit more flow and everything seemed more focused. The only issue was the stories stunk.
The stories really stunk. But they sounded promising. There was some kind of disconnect between the ideas and the execution.
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lysie
Feb 26 2016, 01:08 AM
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Feb 25 2016, 10:33 PM

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I can agree with this.

Actually, even though it was sloppy (as you mentioned) from Stefano's (death) through when Tomsell took over, it did get better. The stories had a bit more flow and everything seemed more focused. The only issue was the stories stunk.
The stories really stunk. But they sounded promising. There was some kind of disconnect between the ideas and the execution.
I think this could be said for a lot of stories on Days over the last three or four regimes.
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lysie
Feb 26 2016, 01:08 AM
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Feb 26 2016, 01:00 AM
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Feb 25 2016, 10:33 PM

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I can agree with this.

Actually, even though it was sloppy (as you mentioned) from Stefano's (death) through when Tomsell took over, it did get better. The stories had a bit more flow and everything seemed more focused. The only issue was the stories stunk.
The stories really stunk. But they sounded promising. There was some kind of disconnect between the ideas and the execution.
Which lends further credence to the network interference thing. Did you ever watch Marlene's writing on AMC? Totally different from Days. It's funny cuz I started watching Days during this regime, but didn't find all that much to like except for Will's story. It wasn't until the Daysaster that I really started loving Days.
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Feb 26 2016, 01:32 AM
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Feb 26 2016, 01:08 AM
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Feb 26 2016, 01:00 AM

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The stories really stunk. But they sounded promising. There was some kind of disconnect between the ideas and the execution.
I think this could be said for a lot of stories on Days over the last three or four regimes.
Oh, I don't even think a lot of them sounded promising.

FYI, I've pretty much lost all hope of Higley being ousted early.
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FYI, I've pretty much lost all hope of Higley being ousted early.

I'm thinking if the ratings are really great during the next few weeks, TPTB might realize that Griffith should continue to write the show.
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Feb 26 2016, 04:55 PM
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FYI, I've pretty much lost all hope of Higley being ousted early.

I'm thinking if the ratings are really great during the next few weeks, TPTB might realize that Griffith should continue to write the show.
It is not easy to have high ratings in March for Days.
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It also doesn't seem very easy to re-hire someone who just quit/got fired/whatever happened. Although with how often writers leave and come back with this show, it probably is no concern :shrug:
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