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Spoilers for the Week of February 29th; Updated 2/22
Topic Started: Feb 19 2016, 09:53 PM (34,825 Views)
cord08
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Oh, god. What if Rafe is the one trying to get Steve off? Remember how we were speculating that he joins Black/Patch? It might be a return to smarter, intuitive Rafe that we had his fall.

The irony would also be off the charts considering that Rafe just did a coverup himself.
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cord08
Feb 24 2016, 06:32 PM
Oh, god. What if Rafe is the one trying to get Steve off? Remember how we were speculating that he joins Black/Patch? It might be a return to smarter, intuitive Rafe that we had his fall.

The irony would also be off the charts considering that Rafe just did a coverup himself.
I'd rather it be John helping Steve and then Steve helps John when he's missing.
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cord08
Feb 24 2016, 06:32 PM
Oh, god. What if Rafe is the one trying to get Steve off? Remember how we were speculating that he joins Black/Patch? It might be a return to smarter, intuitive Rafe that we had his fall.

The irony would also be off the charts considering that Rafe just did a coverup himself.
I bet Rafe does join eventually, because he is going to have to leave the police force.

Edited by Restless84, Feb 24 2016, 06:35 PM.
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esp13
Feb 24 2016, 06:30 PM
I agree, which is why I was hoping (and still hoping) that there was more to the story. That said, at least Steve and Kayla are protecting their son - not themselves. And at least Steve is confessing and facing a murder charge rather than framing someone who had nothing to do with it.
Picky-picky. It's quite arguable that Hope believes she's protecting her children by not confessing/framing. I'm sure if Ava had an evil family member out for vengeance that they'd be up the river too.

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Oh, god. What if Rafe is the one trying to get Steve off? Remember how we were speculating that he joins Black/Patch? It might be a return to smarter, intuitive Rafe that we had his fall.


I was thinking it would be Hope with her rejoining the force on the same time table.

It really could be anybody: Rafe the cover up artist, John, Hope, Eduardo, etc.
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Lovejm
Feb 24 2016, 06:34 PM
cord08
Feb 24 2016, 06:32 PM
Oh, god. What if Rafe is the one trying to get Steve off? Remember how we were speculating that he joins Black/Patch? It might be a return to smarter, intuitive Rafe that we had his fall.

The irony would also be off the charts considering that Rafe just did a coverup himself.
I'd rather it be John helping Steve and then Steve helps John when he's missing.
I do too, but that just feels too obvious. :blulaugh:
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Feb 24 2016, 06:35 PM
esp13
Feb 24 2016, 06:30 PM
I agree, which is why I was hoping (and still hoping) that there was more to the story. That said, at least Steve and Kayla are protecting their son - not themselves. And at least Steve is confessing and facing a murder charge rather than framing someone who had nothing to do with it.
Picky-picky. It's quite arguable that Hope believes she's protecting her children by not confessing/framing. I'm sure if Ava had an evil family member out for vengeance that they'd be up the river too.

Well, Hope might believe that, but it's still something very different. Steve and Kayla aren't covering up a crime - adults - committed. They are covering up a crime their - not yet an adult - son (might have) committed. And, trust me, if Rafe had confessed to murdering Stefano to protect Hope, I would view that much differently than a cop and a not quite ex-cop framing a man for a murder they know he didn't commit.

I don't like either situation, quite frankly. But yes, I find one to be far more offensive than the other.
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Feb 24 2016, 06:35 PM

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Oh, god. What if Rafe is the one trying to get Steve off? Remember how we were speculating that he joins Black/Patch? It might be a return to smarter, intuitive Rafe that we had his fall.


I was thinking it would be Hope with her rejoining the force on the same time table.

It really could be anybody: Rafe the cover up artist, John, Hope, Eduardo, etc.
It could very well be Hope, especially after her conversation with Steve on Monday. She's grateful to him for bringing Bo home.
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Feb 24 2016, 06:39 PM
It could very well be Hope, especially after her conversation with Steve on Monday. She's grateful to him for bringing Bo home.
I was actually thinking they would go here when I first read the police force spoiler. S/H's random scene after a long break. The timing of her rejoining the force is very coincidental in lining up with the Steve/Ava/Joey/Kayla debacle.

I don't like Hope being back on the force period, but if she does go back I rather she go back temporarily to commit crimes for family than to take the job seriously.
Edited by AngelaP, Feb 24 2016, 06:45 PM.
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Feb 24 2016, 06:10 PM
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Feb 24 2016, 04:47 PM
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Feb 24 2016, 03:27 PM
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Oh good it's Lucas covering for Will all over again.
As long as Steve doesn't get released from prison to find Kayla and Ava in bed together I'm OK with it.
Well, that shines a whole new light on this "who is going to help Steve get off" conversation. :)
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Joe murders Ava and Steve covers it up:

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I'm pissed. It may be irrational, but I feel that this is just a way so that when the truth about Hope and Rafe comes out, everyone will shrug it off. :rolleyes:

Or it just means that these writers are unoriginal.
Edited by Deverauxfan, Feb 24 2016, 07:14 PM.
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esp13
Feb 24 2016, 06:38 PM
Well, Hope might believe that, but it's still something very different. Steve and Kayla aren't covering up a crime - adults - committed. They are covering up a crime their - not yet an adult - son (might have) committed. And, trust me, if Rafe had confessed to murdering Stefano to protect Hope, I would view that much differently than a cop and a not quite ex-cop framing a man for a murder they know he didn't commit.

I don't like either situation, quite frankly. But yes, I find one to be far more offensive than the other.
Steve is going to try to get off for the murder, and I'm sure if Ava had a relative out for vengeance that the relative would be screwed as well.

Also, Joey is probably 18 after this weeks sudden case of the SORAS.

I wonder how Mr. Griffith handles conflict in real life? lol, I'm going back to Thaao saying Griffith felt this murder stuff is "human".
Edited by AngelaP, Feb 24 2016, 06:49 PM.
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Feb 24 2016, 06:46 PM
Joe murders Ava and Steve covers it up:

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I'm pissed. It may be irrational, but I feel that it is just a way so that when the truth about Hope and Rafe come out, everyone will shrug it off. :rolleyes:

Or it just means that these writers are unoriginal.
Well at least Steve isn't a cop and has a history of taking the fall for his relatives.
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Restless84
Feb 24 2016, 06:39 PM
AngelaP
Feb 24 2016, 06:35 PM

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Oh, god. What if Rafe is the one trying to get Steve off? Remember how we were speculating that he joins Black/Patch? It might be a return to smarter, intuitive Rafe that we had his fall.


I was thinking it would be Hope with her rejoining the force on the same time table.

It really could be anybody: Rafe the cover up artist, John, Hope, Eduardo, etc.
It could very well be Hope, especially after her conversation with Steve on Monday. She's grateful to him for bringing Bo home.
This might be part of operation redeem Hope. And operation redeem Rafe is potentially helping Marlena while John's gone.
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Lovejm
Feb 24 2016, 06:49 PM
Restless84
Feb 24 2016, 06:39 PM
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Feb 24 2016, 06:35 PM


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It could very well be Hope, especially after her conversation with Steve on Monday. She's grateful to him for bringing Bo home.
This might be part of operation redeem Hope. And operation redeem Rafe is potentially helping Marlena while John's gone.
Yikes. Making this story about Hope would be the one way they could really screw up the aftermath.
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AngelaP
Feb 24 2016, 06:48 PM
esp13
Feb 24 2016, 06:38 PM
Well, Hope might believe that, but it's still something very different. Steve and Kayla aren't covering up a crime - adults - committed. They are covering up a crime their - not yet an adult - son (might have) committed. And, trust me, if Rafe had confessed to murdering Stefano to protect Hope, I would view that much differently than a cop and a not quite ex-cop framing a man for a murder they know he didn't commit.

I don't like either situation, quite frankly. But yes, I find one to be far more offensive than the other.
Steve is going to try to get off for the murder, and I'm sure if Ava had a relative out for vengeance that the relative would be screwed to.

Also, Joey is probably 18 after this weeks sudden case of the SORAS.

I wonder how Mr. Griffith handles conflict in real life? lol, I'm going back to Thaao saying Griffith felt this murder stuff is "human".
The woman is from a mob family, she has lots of dangerous relatives. And Steve's MO has always been to confess to cover for his loved ones, not frame other people for them. Seriously, it's a different thing to confess to a crime than it is to frame someone for it.
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esp13
Feb 24 2016, 06:26 PM
Hahaha . . . I love throwing speculation out and then being wrong - mostly - right off the bat.

Oh well, I still think there is more to the story, but I guess we'll see.
I still prefer your speculation.
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granolagirl
Feb 24 2016, 06:50 PM
Yikes. Making this story about Hope would be the one way they could really screw up the aftermath.
Trust me. This story already stinks without Hope. It reeks of Dena in Dec-Jan, but it's Josh.
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Feb 24 2016, 06:46 PM
Joe murders Ava and Steve covers it up:

Posted Image

Posted Image

I'm pissed. It may be irrational, but I feel that it is just a way so that when the truth about Hope and Rafe come out, everyone will shrug it off. :rolleyes:

Or it just means that these writers are unoriginal.
I know you said it was irrational, but I really doubt the writers constructed this story to get the heat off of Hope and Rafe. In fact, I don't think they even believed people would be upset about what Hope and Rafe did. I think both of these cover-up's are mainly Dena.

I think it's worth noting, people were made about Hope and Rafe even before they framed Andre.
Edited by Restless84, Feb 24 2016, 06:56 PM.
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Lovejm
Feb 24 2016, 06:49 PM
This might be part of operation redeem Hope. And operation redeem Rafe is potentially helping Marlena while John's gone.
Redeem Hope by POSSIBLY having her become a cop again to commit crimes to help another murderer get off (Joey by proxy of Steve)? If she is the person working behind the scenes the only real benefit here is she might get some more off-Rafe interaction.

Hope IMO will only need solid redeeming depending on her behavior after she realizes Stefano didn't do it. [People may be mad, but IMO her behavior makes sense with her mental state and what she believes Stefano did, and what Andre is doing] Unfortunately, that redeeming will have to come through what she does with serial killer, pseudo-pedophile Andre.
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AngelaP
Feb 24 2016, 06:53 PM
granolagirl
Feb 24 2016, 06:50 PM
Yikes. Making this story about Hope would be the one way they could really screw up the aftermath.
Trust me. This story already stinks without Hope. It reeks of Dena in Dec-Jan, but it's Josh.
No matter where we're starting, my gut says marrying it to a redemption arc for Hope -- for a separate terrible story -- makes it worse. But we'll see.
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