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| Spoilers for the Week of February 29th; Updated 2/22 | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 19 2016, 09:53 PM (34,835 Views) | |
| Supergirlx2 | Feb 20 2016, 11:08 AM Post #81 |
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That Hope spoiler is about the only thing I've been waiting & hoping for since the phone records that seemed to point towards Stefano. I'd probably be more excited about the actual scenes if I didn't expect that Hope would be freaking out to Rafe about them. If she does freak out to him, I wonder if Rafe will continue to be a total smug ass & try to convince her that Stefano deserved what he got, even if he wasn't behind Bo's kidnapping. If that's what Rafe does, then his character is beyond redemption. Hope's, however, can still be redeemed (she does, after all, feel remorse for killing Stefano based on an assumption). |
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| Laur | Feb 20 2016, 11:41 AM Post #82 |
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These sound a million times better. You can feel Dena's absence from the show as it gets back to the fallout from the fall and the history of the show. Well, here's to the next few months being so incredible that Dena gets fired by summer. I'm crossing my fingers and toes for a ratings boost and viewers writing how much better the show is the next few Dena-free months. With the rumored hiatus, she'd only have a few months of control of the show in the fall if they fire her by end of spring/early summer. |
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| sewannie | Feb 20 2016, 11:50 AM Post #83 |
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I sincerely hope not. It would be bad enough for Chad to not tell Abby b/c he mistakenly thinks that by doing so, he is protecting her. But to be so consumed about a dead man, even if it is his father, that he doesn't let Abby know that the psycho serial killer who tortured her, and them, and kidnapped their son, is roaming free...that is unacceptable for me. These spoilers do sound 1000x better than most of February's. |
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| crookedhalo | Feb 20 2016, 12:15 PM Post #84 |
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most?? |
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| sewannie | Feb 20 2016, 12:20 PM Post #85 |
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Ok...all. |
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| AngelaP | Feb 20 2016, 01:06 PM Post #86 |
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I really can't wait to see how Josh Griffith handles this one. This is something I think could go either way for him as a writer - he's either going to do it really well, or it's going to be halfa--ed. It's not hard to patch up Hope (due to the events of November, varying psychosis, her rejection of returning to the force) but it's also a really, really intricate beat that's coming up so it's not a particularly simple beat to write in general either. What do you make the overwhelming feeling here? Can you do the multitude of feelings justice? Stefano was a monster, but the hatred & anger inside Hope that allowed her to kill, frame and justify it was in response to a majority of things that she will begin to receive were false. How do you process it when you realize how low you've sunk because of allowing those dark emotions to overtake you? How do you process what you've done to the Dimera family when you did it for all the wrong reasons but when the history allows that the dismantling was long overdue? How do you take in the part that you didn't get justice and there's still danger out there when getting that and removing that was the part that basically calmed you? How do you respond to getting justice here after such a monumental misjudgment? Edited by AngelaP, Feb 20 2016, 07:13 PM.
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| janem | Feb 20 2016, 01:46 PM Post #87 |
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Perhaps that misjudgement will be instrumental in her refusing to return to the force. Could be if she did, she would not trust her instincts, constantly worrying she was wrong, was making a mistake, this is not the perp, the evidence against the person could be wrong, it could just look that way...what if, what if, what if. And if not on the force, her being so very wrong, and retaliating as she did, could make her doubt her reactions just to things in every day life, little things, big things. |
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| AngelaP | Feb 20 2016, 02:08 PM Post #88 |
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I think Hope began doubting her instincts to the core in November (Aiden, Bo) and that's why she was willing to throw away her career almost from the start. She didn't just lose two enormous relationships in her life during those long 24 hours. Hope should never be a cop again and that's IMO the one actual real loss from the story that has played. So far, she has been refusing to return to the force because deep down she knows she has no right to be a cop because she is unwilling to be law abiding especially in terms of dealing with the Dimera's (a huge thing that's a really correct move in this story for her character BUT, yet, they're doing the opposite with Rafe). Once the truth comes out, along with the fact she should really not be invited back IF everything comes out, the fact that she cannot trust her instincts, didn't control her darkest impulses, etc Yeah, if JG digs here with all of them (Hope and her family)... there are so many layers. (Maybe too many in some ways, though. It's been PILE ON) Edited by AngelaP, Feb 20 2016, 02:13 PM.
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| trojangal | Feb 20 2016, 02:21 PM Post #89 |
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I wish there was no mention of Hope in the spoilers either she is on way too much & I only see her screen time increasing with all of the Ciara, Chase , Stefano , Andre & Aiden stuff coming up |
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| frivolity | Feb 20 2016, 02:25 PM Post #90 |
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Bo and Hope (especially Bo) should never have been cops in the first place. They were do-gooders and heroes, but they weren't supposed to "play by the rules." They had their detective agency way back when and it should have been resurrected when they returned from their sail around the world. In any case, this is the perfect opportunity to get Hope off the force permanently and let her join BlackPatch where she belongs. Edited by frivolity, Feb 20 2016, 02:26 PM.
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| AngelaP | Feb 20 2016, 02:39 PM Post #91 |
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Speaking of BlackPatch, that will go away (if it returns) IF Dena gets to fully come back. Sigh. It really should be John, Patch & Hope at BlackPatch if they revive the idea. Hopefully, they do and hopefully that happens. [Unfortunately, I can see them spotting in Rafe instead] I completely agree with your assessment. Having just recently watched so much of the 1980s stuff, it a bit of a jolt to see that Bo became a cop for the majority of his adult life. Hope & JohnasRoman were always sort of fringe even though they made more sense as cops than Bo did (stemming from the 1980s). |
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| JoeBucs32 | Feb 20 2016, 03:23 PM Post #92 |
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Nope -- he's not dead. Just wait. Remember....Brady and Caroline (and many others) are having or have had visions of people who are very much alive. |
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| The Room Stops | Feb 20 2016, 03:41 PM Post #93 |
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Yeah, I always hated that Bo and Hope became just boring soapy cops. They could easily just have that training, but they're dreamers and adventurers who go on their instincts and get caught up in bad situations. Bo was not Roman. He should have realized eventually that he was good enough on his own, and that he was not right for that job (in a good way). Roman's hypocritical ass can go be Commissioner. That's not Bo. Or Hope. |
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| andromeda | Feb 20 2016, 06:44 PM Post #94 |
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How boring. No mention of John and Marlena. I don't put it past these "writers" to exclude John and Marlena on this episode where "everyone" reminisces about Stefano. Even if they do include them, they'll be but a blip on the radar in what should be an episode devoted to what was arguably the biggest rivalry on this show between three characters. I shudder to think how these "writers" will reduce their importance and twist history to make this all about how Stefano gave Daniel a hernia, Hope hives, Maggie a root canal, Ciara a sour lollipop and Sami, a storyline. Wake me when it's over. I'll happily eat crow. |
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| concerned | Feb 20 2016, 07:07 PM Post #95 |
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1. That's why we have a justice system Hope.. |
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| concerned | Feb 20 2016, 07:07 PM Post #96 |
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2. I'll put good money on "everyone" not including Nicole. |
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| crookedhalo | Feb 20 2016, 09:20 PM Post #97 |
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That's why your INNOCENT til PROVEN guilty. |
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| Rosebud | Feb 21 2016, 01:01 AM Post #98 |
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The only one that sounds interesting is the Stefano one. i can't imagine fitting Stefano's entire history into one episode will be satisfying, if that's what the spoiler is implying. I'm just hoping they actually include John and Marlena, and that they get the history right, and that it's not something stupid like everyone gathers at the pub to toast to Stefano and take turns saying what he did to them. I hope they put some thought into it. |
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| Kiki | Feb 21 2016, 01:32 AM Post #99 |
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At first glance the note about Batty Ben coming back just seems to be a dangerous scenario for Abigail. However, there are so many questions that could come into play with Ben. Is he lucid? I mean is he crazy like he was in the cabin so he doesn't really hear or comprehend anything beyond his own pain and hysteria or is he crazy like he was when he was setting Chad up in a clever way? One could assume if he was able to escape, he might be back to strategy-Ben. How much does he know? Does he know Abby and Chad are together? Does he know they are engaged? Does he know Thomas is Chad's son and not his? Will he accept that as true? Does that make Thomas a target to get to Chad and Abby or does he think Thomas belongs to him regardless? What is his mindset after being locked up and what will his goal be? Does he want Abby and Thomas again or does he still want Abby dead? Does he primarily still blame Chad or does he blame both Chad and Abigail? Who will be his target and in what way? It seems like making Chad suffer for "stealing" his life would be high on the list. Of course making Abby pay for cheating on him and loving Chad could be top of the heap as well. In telling this story, the writers really must play all of these beats for us to feel the suspense. Ben is crazy so following his logic will be somewhat of a maze and add to the drama. Also, will this pull Chabby together or will the fear for each other and for their son isolate them both? (I vote for together since we know we're going to get horrific in a couple of months anyway). This would all be more poignant if they were married. I'm even fine with Ben lurking in the bushes at their wedding. The other intriguing spoilers, Chad talking to his dead father and characters looking back at history with Stefano....Billy Flynn is going to play the hell out of that and be awesome and there is so much opportunity for so many actors to get memories viewed. I really hope they do actual flashbacks. It's just so great to have some great stuff coming! |
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| lysie | Feb 21 2016, 01:45 AM Post #100 |
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They're not left out. |
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