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| Monday, February 22 Episode Discussion | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 21 2016, 08:17 PM (12,749 Views) | |
| cord08 | Feb 22 2016, 11:32 PM Post #261 |
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Agree 100%. I was against this story idea (and still am not fond of it), but reading some of the comments has made me realize that well-written stories like this are still needed. I was trying to craft such a response earlier in this thread, but didn't post because I couldn't get the wording just right. So, thank you. |
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| lysie | Feb 22 2016, 11:34 PM Post #262 |
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It's a terrible excuse, but yeah - the writer changes have really made a mess of things. I think Griffith would be this dark regardless, but hopefully when able to see a story through to the end, he does fallout better that what we saw Dec-Feb. Unfortunately, we didn't get the fallout with Dena and now we're right back to the dark. |
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| Kevc1980 | Feb 23 2016, 02:23 AM Post #263 |
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Pretty good show today.. I loved the Ciara and Theo stuff.. VJ is doing a great job with the rape aftermath! The scenes with Hope and Ciara were so well written and acted.. In fact, I just loved Hope today. The Steve and Hope scenes were wonderful. It was so nice to hear Bo mentioned a few times and to hear that Aiden tried to kill Hope. Really feel that got washed under the rug. Kaya and Ava was all kinds of awesome. Excellent performances by MBE and TB. The story has been terrible, I tuned out for it. But with Griffith doing the aftermath I'm here for it. The slap and punch were epic.. Also, nice to see JJ. Chase and Andre was creepy.. I actually skipped a few of these scenes. The location shot was amazing!! Can we get more please.. Please redeem this story Griffith. I want to have faith. Please no more Egg Babies.. |
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| Hugo | Feb 23 2016, 07:36 AM Post #264 |
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I really love watching Steve and Hope sit and talk about their feelings. |
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| lisawinnie | Feb 23 2016, 10:24 AM Post #265 |
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How is Ciara turning 18 I through she was younger then claire |
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| DrewHamilton | Feb 23 2016, 10:36 AM Post #266 |
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When the kids were aged, Ciara, Theo, Joey and Chase were aged to 16-17. Claire was only aged to 15. So now Claire is younger than Ciara. I actually hate when soaps do this, but it isn't the first time. Shawn should be older than Brady. Max should be older than Sami and Eric. Abigail should be older than Belle and Philip. It happens. In Claire and Ciara's case, it sucks because I don't think the show will ever be able to touch upon the fact that Claire has Zack's liver from the transplant after he was killed. That could be an awesome part of Claire's character, but I see no way they can do that since Ciara is now older than Claire, and Ciara and Zack were never alive at the same time. Ciara was Bo and Hope's miracle baby after Zack already died. Edited by DrewHamilton, Feb 23 2016, 10:38 AM.
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| Kyrai | Feb 23 2016, 10:38 AM Post #267 |
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I almost always agree with you, but I don't see anything wrong with wanting Ciara to have fought back. I'm thinking they played the shock angle because Ciara would have kicked his ass, but it doesn't mean I wouldn't have liked to have seen her kick him. Whether she does or doesn't, doesn't make it any less rape. Similarly, I would have preferred Steve exhaust other possibilities than sleep with Ava, but I still feel he was coerced/raped. |
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| Hamilton | Feb 23 2016, 10:48 AM Post #268 |
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Steve and Hope meeting up at the bar was weird. I thought that a bad choice. I liked them sharing a scene and I liked Steve honestly confiding in Hope, but overall it was flat because what was it other than Steve recounting what happened and then they moved on. Im glad Hope didn't judge Steve especially considering her current predicament, but I think the commiserating over a drink was just oddly placed in the episode. Kayla getting in some physical expressions of her hatred toward Ava was cathartic to this miserable storyline. So Hope actually called the aunt about taking Chase. Interesting tidbit of information. Andre and Chase bonding is just too creepy. Andre excited over the fact Chase slept with Ciara was disturbing. I like none of this. Summer is my favorite season so it pains me to say, I dread Summer. I dread everything coming with this storyline. Theo lying to cover for Ciara was really cute. I do enjoy watching their friendship developed more. It feels authentic. |
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| esp13 | Feb 23 2016, 10:57 AM Post #269 |
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Here's my problem with it. Imagine Ciara standing in front of you and you say "gee, I wish you would have fought back. I mean, he still raped you, but I really wish you'd have kicked him in the balls." Now, imagine what Ciara would feel (I know she's fictional, just go with me here) hearing that? She's going to feel like she SHOULD have done something else, like it's her fault that she didn't. Now, before people start telling me these are fictional characters and it's just a soap, I know that. Ciara can't really feel anything about anything we say. I get it. But this storyline is an opportunity for educating people. So, I'm going to respond to things - however innocently meant - that perpetuate stereotypes of rape victims and what they should or shouldn't have done. Is there anything "wrong" with wishing she had fought back? Maybe not. But to the extent it, however unintentionally, conveys a message that she should have, or could have fought back and it would have made a difference it can be a dangerous message to send. |
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| Kyrai | Feb 23 2016, 11:22 AM Post #270 |
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I'm afraid I disagree with the whole argument. I wouldn't stand in front of any rape victim and say, 'Gee, I wish you'd have fought back'. I had a co-worker who was the sole survivor of a serial rapist. She credited it to prayer. She said she just laid there praying, then he just left. He didn't kill her when he killed all the other victims. It was viewed as a miracle by her and others. It worked for her, but I hardly think all rape victims should lie there and pray to survive. There is no right or wrong answer to what would happen in any given situation. Fighting back could let you get away or make things worse. Lying there, could make things better or worse. I'm not saying, 'Wow, Ciara should have fought back and this wouldn't have happened'. I'm saying, it's a show, and I'd have liked for her to have fought back. I'd like to have seen Steve do more, BUT I can't argue that he wasn't worried Ava would have killed Kayla, so he did what he felt he had to. I may have wanted to see something different, but I'm not changing what happened. How I would have preferred Ciara's or Steve's scenes to have played out, have no bearing on the rape. It has to do with how I feel about a show I'm watching. I think folks feel what they feel, and we're not trying to make any kind of statement about a rape victim. But I'm fine with disagreeing on this. Edited by Kyrai, Feb 23 2016, 11:23 AM.
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| wallflower | Feb 23 2016, 12:35 PM Post #271 |
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Yes. Chase pinned her down and overpowered her. So no matter how tough she may seem, I`m thinking she was probably in shock that thiis was happening to her and the one doing it was someone she knew and trusted. When I looked at Ciara`s face she looked very scared and hurt that Chase would do this to her. I can`t speak for everybody but I can say that`s how felt when it happened to me and I thought the actress did a pretty good job with it. Also, I think it was esp13 who said in a post that this discussion even shows how rape is still not being dealt with in this country and I agree. I still don`t feel comfortable talking about being date raped about 25 years ago because I`m afraid people still are going to blame me. Hell, even I put some of the blame on myself. All I know is it scared the hell out of me even though he didn`t have a weapon and I didn`t think fighting back was going to do any good. I was a grown woman so I can`t imagine how a teenager would feel. FYI Like Ciara, I didn`t report it either. But thank God for my Mom who I could always talk to and tell her ANYTHING. I miss her so much.. |
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| wallflower | Feb 23 2016, 12:49 PM Post #272 |
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Yes. I replied to Ken Adams in an earlier post and I explained that I realized my information was wrong because I misread an article earllier yesterday on Google. I`m wiping the egg from my face on that still. |
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| lysie | Feb 23 2016, 04:30 PM Post #273 |
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I understand what you're saying. I just think this is a tricky topic. It's kind of hard to make a statement on it without it coming across as a statement about rape. Mostly because anything you (the general "you") say about it ends up being really similar to things that are already said to bring down rape victims, even if that's nowhere near the intent now. In regards to Ciara, they really didn't show much of the rape. So while we didn't see her fight back, we also missed huge chunks of what happened. Ultimately in any rape scene it would be preferable to see the rapist get overpowered by the victim at some point, but that's not particularly realistic. I find it more problematic to talk about how her reaction is different from what's expected based on her personality (or the personality she had as a child). That completely negates context and emotions. |
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| Hennifer | Feb 24 2016, 12:33 PM Post #274 |
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I'm embarrassed to say I thought that he was just an "extra" cop and I didn't realize until the last scene when Roman said his name that it was actually JJ. |
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