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Thursday, February 25th Episode Discussion
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Feb 25 2016, 06:15 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 05:24 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 04:50 PM
I'm actually shocked they just had a kid say "fag." The worst Nick could say was "gay boy."
I was taken aback by that too! And I didn't realize that the boy called that was Henry UNTIL Paul saw him in HTS! :'( I think Paul called himself a fag to Will..
I loved seeing Paul, of course not with Lani, that made no sense at all, but, where does this go??
Maybe a crisis support center is open and he mentors kids having problems...if that were so, could Brady join in?? I say you call it the William Horton teen center.
Belle, belle, belle... :whack:
I liked Ciara for ten seconds, then she started dancing... :facepalm:
Steve/Kayla/Joe scenes were ok.
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Feb 25 2016, 06:17 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 12:54 PM
Oh for love of god Belle and Philip naked and he wants to make sure if that's what she wants. what happened Claire comes first? :drunk:They're making love .
I knew that her promise about staying away from him and Claire coming first wasn't gonna last long. That's why i didn't even bother paying any attention. The woman can't keep it in her pants!! that's definitely not Belle Black. I'm more convinced than ever that Belle Black left Salem the minute Kirsten Storms left the role. I tried but Martha Madison is not Belle, not in a billion years!!!! The writing and portrayal just isn't there for the character anymore. Last night I was watching the episode where Tony gives Belle Daphne's brooch. KS was just so sweet & radiant. I miss her SO much!
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Feb 25 2016, 06:19 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 06:09 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 05:56 PM
TBH, I don't even think Joey killing Ava is that dark.
Same here. Ciara's rape is dark. The stuff in the Fall with Ben and Aiden was dark. I don't think Hope killing Stefano was really that dark because it was played way too campy and took away from the seriousness of it It's interesting because while I do think Days could lighten up a little, it's been dark quite often through the years. Maybe we didn't see quite so much death but the show has had a darker tone to it alot of the years except when it strayed into being way too campy. I was thinking alot about the early 1990's recently (1990-1994) and it was very dark. You had major characters leaving and being killed off, rape, murder...then, of course, you had a woman getting buried alive. Now, they did do a better job of tossing in a bit more comedy and lightness but it was still dark. Go back to Fall 2010 where we had Sami shooting EJ in the head, Arianna getting hit and killed by a car, Johnny having eye cancer, Vivian and Maggie both being locked in a sarcophagus while Isabella's remains were placed in a pet cemetery, and later on we had the two Rafe story which had Rafe traumatizing poor Allie and raping Sami and also killing Fay. Meanwhile, around that time, Jennifer's heart was removed from her chest in a prison story that involved Hope being abused while Chloe was suffering from post partum, tried to kill herself while leaving her baby on the pier, became a hooker and would end up being beaten by an attacker who was targeting woman. That was only a mere 5-6 years ago. It really doesn't bother me and I know it may seem like a bit much in regards to the teens but I honestly would rather have them have heavier material than having them be all "afterschool special" like. That isn't to say I want them to just have rape and murder stories but having them be more involved in serious story instead of just filler and nothing but over the top love stories and triangles is far more interesting to me because Days just doesn't do well with writing teens when they aren't dealing with heavy drama. The last blast teens I liked but when they didn't have serious drama going on it was just way to annoying to watch them. They would regularly come off preachy, too innocent, and boring as all hell. Exactly. I don't necessarily disagree that the show can go too dark (and I'm expecting to hear that even more in the coming weeks), but some of my favorite moments come from those dark things. I do think it'd be nice if they'd add in some light and happiness to balance it a bit more, but I like the angst the dark provides. Maybe they're going too far with the teens. I don't think so yet, but maybe. But I mean...it's not like their last several tries at a teen group have been particularly successful. Maybe this will help them have more staying power. Maybe not.
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Feb 25 2016, 06:22 PM
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At this rate, the writers should change the setting from Salem, to the Salem co-ed penitentiary. At least there might be new fresh stories.
Roman, JJ, and Shawn could be prison guards. Maybe Abe could be the warden.
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Feb 25 2016, 06:24 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 06:19 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 06:09 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 05:56 PM
TBH, I don't even think Joey killing Ava is that dark.
Same here. Ciara's rape is dark. The stuff in the Fall with Ben and Aiden was dark. I don't think Hope killing Stefano was really that dark because it was played way too campy and took away from the seriousness of it It's interesting because while I do think Days could lighten up a little, it's been dark quite often through the years. Maybe we didn't see quite so much death but the show has had a darker tone to it alot of the years except when it strayed into being way too campy. I was thinking alot about the early 1990's recently (1990-1994) and it was very dark. You had major characters leaving and being killed off, rape, murder...then, of course, you had a woman getting buried alive. Now, they did do a better job of tossing in a bit more comedy and lightness but it was still dark. Go back to Fall 2010 where we had Sami shooting EJ in the head, Arianna getting hit and killed by a car, Johnny having eye cancer, Vivian and Maggie both being locked in a sarcophagus while Isabella's remains were placed in a pet cemetery, and later on we had the two Rafe story which had Rafe traumatizing poor Allie and raping Sami and also killing Fay. Meanwhile, around that time, Jennifer's heart was removed from her chest in a prison story that involved Hope being abused while Chloe was suffering from post partum, tried to kill herself while leaving her baby on the pier, became a hooker and would end up being beaten by an attacker who was targeting woman. That was only a mere 5-6 years ago. It really doesn't bother me and I know it may seem like a bit much in regards to the teens but I honestly would rather have them have heavier material than having them be all "afterschool special" like. That isn't to say I want them to just have rape and murder stories but having them be more involved in serious story instead of just filler and nothing but over the top love stories and triangles is far more interesting to me because Days just doesn't do well with writing teens when they aren't dealing with heavy drama. The last blast teens I liked but when they didn't have serious drama going on it was just way to annoying to watch them. They would regularly come off preachy, too innocent, and boring as all hell.
Exactly. I don't necessarily disagree that the show can go too dark (and I'm expecting to hear that even more in the coming weeks), but some of my favorite moments come from those dark things. I do think it'd be nice if they'd add in some light and happiness to balance it a bit more, but I like the angst the dark provides. Maybe they're going too far with the teens. I don't think so yet, but maybe. But I mean...it's not like their last several tries at a teen group have been particularly successful. Maybe this will help them have more staying power. Maybe not. They went pretty dark with Sami, Carrie, Austin and Lucas at times. Mainly Sami-raped by Alan, shot him...Carrie got scarred with acid and disfigured her face. Austin was abused by his father....Sami kidnapped her sister and sold her on the blackmarket. Sami dragged Austin to sleep with her...
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Feb 25 2016, 06:24 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 06:19 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 06:09 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 05:56 PM
TBH, I don't even think Joey killing Ava is that dark.
Same here. Ciara's rape is dark. The stuff in the Fall with Ben and Aiden was dark. I don't think Hope killing Stefano was really that dark because it was played way too campy and took away from the seriousness of it It's interesting because while I do think Days could lighten up a little, it's been dark quite often through the years. Maybe we didn't see quite so much death but the show has had a darker tone to it alot of the years except when it strayed into being way too campy. I was thinking alot about the early 1990's recently (1990-1994) and it was very dark. You had major characters leaving and being killed off, rape, murder...then, of course, you had a woman getting buried alive. Now, they did do a better job of tossing in a bit more comedy and lightness but it was still dark. Go back to Fall 2010 where we had Sami shooting EJ in the head, Arianna getting hit and killed by a car, Johnny having eye cancer, Vivian and Maggie both being locked in a sarcophagus while Isabella's remains were placed in a pet cemetery, and later on we had the two Rafe story which had Rafe traumatizing poor Allie and raping Sami and also killing Fay. Meanwhile, around that time, Jennifer's heart was removed from her chest in a prison story that involved Hope being abused while Chloe was suffering from post partum, tried to kill herself while leaving her baby on the pier, became a hooker and would end up being beaten by an attacker who was targeting woman. That was only a mere 5-6 years ago. It really doesn't bother me and I know it may seem like a bit much in regards to the teens but I honestly would rather have them have heavier material than having them be all "afterschool special" like. That isn't to say I want them to just have rape and murder stories but having them be more involved in serious story instead of just filler and nothing but over the top love stories and triangles is far more interesting to me because Days just doesn't do well with writing teens when they aren't dealing with heavy drama. The last blast teens I liked but when they didn't have serious drama going on it was just way to annoying to watch them. They would regularly come off preachy, too innocent, and boring as all hell.
Exactly. I don't necessarily disagree that the show can go too dark (and I'm expecting to hear that even more in the coming weeks), but some of my favorite moments come from those dark things. I do think it'd be nice if they'd add in some light and happiness to balance it a bit more, but I like the angst the dark provides. Maybe they're going too far with the teens. I don't think so yet, but maybe. But I mean...it's not like their last several tries at a teen group have been particularly successful. Maybe this will help them have more staying power. Maybe not. The teens don't bother me near as much as the Braniel story line. And Rope is a close second. The teens seem better to me, except for Joey. He looks like he's in a daze most of the time.
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Feb 25 2016, 06:28 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 05:56 PM
TBH, I don't even think Joey killing Ava is that dark.
Same here. Ciara's rape is dark. The stuff in the Fall with Ben and Aiden was dark. I don't think Hope killing Stefano was really that dark because it was played way too campy and took away from the seriousness of it It's interesting because while I do think Days could lighten up a little, it's been dark quite often through the years. Maybe we didn't see quite so much death but the show has had a darker tone to it alot of the years except when it strayed into being way too campy. I was thinking alot about the early 1990's recently (1990-1994) and it was very dark. You had major characters leaving and being killed off, rape, murder...then, of course, you had a woman getting buried alive. Now, they did do a better job of tossing in a bit more comedy and lightness but it was still dark. Go back to Fall 2010 where we had Sami shooting EJ in the head, Arianna getting hit and killed by a car, Johnny having eye cancer, Vivian and Maggie both being locked in a sarcophagus while Isabella's remains were placed in a pet cemetery, and later on we had the two Rafe story which had Rafe traumatizing poor Allie and raping Sami and also killing Fay. Meanwhile, around that time, Jennifer's heart was removed from her chest in a prison story that involved Hope being abused while Chloe was suffering from post partum, tried to kill herself while leaving her baby on the pier, became a hooker and would end up being beaten by an attacker who was targeting woman. That was only a mere 5-6 years ago. It really doesn't bother me and I know it may seem like a bit much in regards to the teens but I honestly would rather have them have heavier material than having them be all "afterschool special" like. That isn't to say I want them to just have rape and murder stories but having them be more involved in serious story instead of just filler and nothing but over the top love stories and triangles is far more interesting to me because Days just doesn't do well with writing teens when they aren't dealing with heavy drama. The last blast teens I liked but when they didn't have serious drama going on it was just way to annoying to watch them. They would regularly come off preachy, too innocent, and boring as all hell.
Exactly. I don't necessarily disagree that the show can go too dark (and I'm expecting to hear that even more in the coming weeks), but some of my favorite moments come from those dark things. I do think it'd be nice if they'd add in some light and happiness to balance it a bit more, but I like the angst the dark provides. Maybe they're going too far with the teens. I don't think so yet, but maybe. But I mean...it's not like their last several tries at a teen group have been particularly successful. Maybe this will help them have more staying power. Maybe not. While it wasn't exactly a teen story, I'll take this stuff over Touch this Guy anyday. That was "light" I suppose, but boy was it awful. And I liked 4 of the 6 characters involved in that story a lot.
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Feb 25 2016, 06:54 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 04:50 PM
I'm actually shocked they just had a kid say "fag." The worst Nick could say was "gay boy." Nick called Sonny a FAGGot during their fist fight at Common Grounds (before Club TBD)
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Feb 25 2016, 06:55 PM
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I think all this dark/action stuff and multiple storylines/fast pace are good for their ratings. I just wish they somehow "managed" to rescue some people as well (Pratt is doing these things as well, it's just that nobody (or almost nobody) dies on Y&R)
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Feb 25 2016, 07:02 PM
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- Feb 25 2016, 04:56 PM
Well, Will shot EJ and Lucas went to jail for it. There is a precedent for them to "get away with it".
I hope it turns out that Joey didn't kill Ava. That the smothering wasn't what killed her. Or maybe Joey was dreaming about killing her, and it has not happened yet.
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Feb 25 2016, 07:05 PM
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Belle could not support Claire when she wanted to go to Juilliard - choosing to go to Las Vegas with Phillip instead - but now thinks buying her a nightclub is a great idea.
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Feb 25 2016, 07:11 PM
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Belle could not support Claire when she wanted to go to Juilliard - choosing to go to Las Vegas with Phillip instead - but now thinks buying her a nightclub is a great idea. But she didn't "not support" her going to Juilliard.
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Feb 25 2016, 07:12 PM
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One point I'll add to the Joey thing: I like that they're seemingly being consistent with him having some anger issues. I always felt as though his forgiveness of Steve/calmer mood in the early months of his return was a Bandaid, and that his hurt and anger would resurface or manifest itself in a much larger manner at some point. I mean, they kind of started doing that to a certain degree earlier in the week with Steve/Joey....
So, as much as I'm not a fan of Joey killing someone, I do think the writers may use this event to further revisit the broad issues that I felt were kind of whitewashed about a month after his initial return.
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Feb 25 2016, 07:13 PM
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I do think the stories and motivations are somewhat the sames in Josh Griffith's mind. 2 young hormonal teen boys have their first crush but they get turned down. Chase and Joey were both frustrated and "acted out" by committing an awful crime. The weird thing is I don't think either Chase or Joey are written as bad people. But how many teen boys would act that way when things don't work out with their first crush? That's not normal but it feels like it is for Griffith. I don't think JG thinks it's "normal". IMO he just tries (like everyone else in the HW position) to write a compelling soap. Time will tell if it's the right way to write a soap.
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Feb 25 2016, 07:16 PM
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Few random thoughts from today...
Chase is on a roll bullying, rape and now stalking...he's building up quite a rap sheet!
I would be okay with Theo going a little dark and breaking out his Dimera side on Chase....I will always love protective Theo, still remember little Theo protecting little Ciara from Rafe2...now he can protect her from Chase!
Okay, a few tic tacs might take the initial alcohol smell from Joey's breath, but it's just not believable that Steve of all people wouldn't notice he had been drinking!
So Claire is the smart teen...bitchy, easy Belle can't pull anything over on her...and yes Belle most of us wish you were more like Marlena too!
So apparently everyone in Salem except Andre know that Belle has the Dimera money?!!
I'm going to need Deimos to interact with more peeps before I can really get a read on the viability of this new character....Deimos/Phillip isn't doing it for me!
Thankfully, Ava Vitali, Mafia Princess, is living on borrowed time, like 24 more hours...finally!!
What a lame rave! If teen parties are like this now, then no my kids won't have nearly the fun I had growing up! LOL
I wish there had been better dialogue between Lani & Paul...instead of her saying isn't crushing on girls what all teenage boys do, I would rather her have intentionally made a point to say most boys to Paul will a knowing smile.
Why, why, why is the only couple allowed to be shown in bed together Phelle.....they aren't even in relationship! Where are the Chabby love scenes???
So far we have Claire, the smart teen...Theo the caring, protective teen...Chase the rapist...Ciara the victim...and now Joey the murderer......that could make for some interesting truth or dare games! LOL
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Feb 25 2016, 07:22 PM
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I do think the stories and motivations are somewhat the sames in Josh Griffith's mind. 2 young hormonal teen boys have their first crush but they get turned down. Chase and Joey were both frustrated and "acted out" by committing an awful crime. The weird thing is I don't think either Chase or Joey are written as bad people. But how many teen boys would act that way when things don't work out with their first crush? That's not normal but it feels like it is for Griffith.
I don't think JG thinks it's "normal". IMO he just tries (like everyone else in the HW position) to write a compelling soap. Time will tell if it's the right way to write a soap. Guess we'll only have about 6 months to figure out how good or bad his stories were...sigh
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Feb 25 2016, 07:23 PM
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Belle could not support Claire when she wanted to go to Juilliard - choosing to go to Las Vegas with Phillip instead - but now thinks buying her a nightclub is a great idea.
But she didn't "not support" her going to Juilliard. She chose not to go with her to New York for the audition.
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Feb 25 2016, 07:23 PM
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Please note: This report is not to be copied and pasted to any other sites. Please link only. Link to summary archive: http://www.network54.com/Forum/358635/Segment 6A fight breaks out. Theo tries to break it up. Ciara watches Theo, Chase watches Ciara. Claire - Ciara, come on, let's go. They take off. Chase comes out on to the pier and watches them. Segment 7Paul is walking through the square and one of the kids that was in the fight (the one the other boy called a gay person) bumps into him. Paul asks if he's okay. What happened? Guy - It's nothing. Paul - No, I can tell you're really upset. Talk to me please, whatever it is I can help.
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^ the boy in the hat is Henry.
Casting call for "Henry" 15-16 year old recurring male. All ethnicities. Henry is gorgeous but unconventional He uses jokes to mask a secret he feels he has. He's with the popular kids, but has been bullied before. http://daytimeroyaltyonline.com/single/?p=9340094&t=9241106
I wondered if that casting description was "code" for gay.
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Feb 25 2016, 07:24 PM
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So Chase has no excuse, but Joey may have been drunk or high....what am I missing? I guess I missed the cheap shot too, unless disagreeing with a statement suddenly qualifies. I would think Andre's mind games would be just as valid of a mitigating circumstance. Chase has just experienced incredible trauma & essentially has no one but Hope (who he fears is a burden to). Joey has two parents that still wipe his nose for him & was throwing a tantrum that a woman he was trying to bed played him & his family. Chase owns his actions & feels remorse. All indications are Joey let's mommy & daddy clean up his mess. So if I'm going to say they both own their actions but.......Chase has a hell of alot more "buts" than Joey. No worries, that's kind of how I felt about Bo, so I get it. The difference is, I think Aiden's time in Salem is just getting started.......
Eric was drunk - he's still getting 3 -12 years and he didn't even intend to kill his holy Jonas. rape, eh. Murder, eh. But killing the Saint of Salem, that's just inexcusable! it's like Eric pick that unlucky monopoly card "GO TO JAIL: Go directly to Jail. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200."
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"Here honey I bought you a night club to sing in when you get good enough, how about a drink to celebrate?"...isn't that what every proud parent dreams of saying? SMH
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