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| Wednesday, March 2nd Episode Discussion | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 1 2016, 07:05 PM (18,507 Views) | |
| wallflower | Mar 2 2016, 03:35 PM Post #181 |
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Caroline hosted the party at the pub and Vic was there w/o Maggie. I enjoyed watching the whole show today.. |
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| Boisthebest | Mar 2 2016, 03:41 PM Post #182 |
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To be honest, I found it quite disappointing! Kate there really bothered me. I was OK with Victor, especially if he believes Stefano had anything to do with Bo's death. Lack of flashback variety disappointed. No Bo, or early Roman or Hope in any of them...so of course that would bother me. I know it is a money thing. But primarily the lack of anger on the part of the characters. I get that it was a tribute to JM but still.....Stefano was a monster and what he did to these people was beyond comprehensible. Caroline lost years of her son Roman's life; Stefano nearly killed Bo when he shot he the first time, Kayla's life with her family destroyed when Steve was held hostage and countless horrid things happened to most of her grandchildren. I wanted more deep anger. It was simply, to me, actors talking about a character rather than acting like their characters should, IMO. Seriously, the lack of deep emotions from all the deaths (Will, Bo) has really left me wondering if these writers simply have given up writing good stories and just move from one plot to another. Bo's week was filled with emotion and then NOTHING. I take it there is lots for the sainted Daniel but that's another topic. The lack of repercussions for so many, from Will and Bo's deaths, in the Horton and Brady families has truly left me feeling resentful about the show. I thought today might get me interested again. But I have to give it a thumbs down. |
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| Lovejm | Mar 2 2016, 03:41 PM Post #183 |
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Maggie being there would have been the worst lol. I'm glad she missed it |
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| wallflower | Mar 2 2016, 03:42 PM Post #184 |
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Kate and Victor have fans too and some of us enjoyed what they had to say. I like DAYS for the cast as a whole. I hope they don`t start focussing any one person too much like they`ve done before. |
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| Rosebud | Mar 2 2016, 03:42 PM Post #185 |
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Memorably BAD. I'm sorry too, LOL but that story went on for an interminable amount of time and even reared its ugly head again a few years ago. It was a disaster, some of KA's worst acting, and I'm so glad they left it far away from this episode. Edited by Rosebud, Mar 2 2016, 03:43 PM.
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| wallflower | Mar 2 2016, 03:44 PM Post #186 |
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tbf Caroline did say she was waiting for a special occasion and thought this was fitting. |
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| Deverauxfan | Mar 2 2016, 03:45 PM Post #187 |
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Bellarke <3
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Pop channel airs Days at 8 and the NBC website puts it up at noon the next day. |
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| Hourglass7 | Mar 2 2016, 03:48 PM Post #188 |
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I am not sure if pop channel is available to me as a Canadian. And can Canadians watch NBC eps? |
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| Rosebud | Mar 2 2016, 03:48 PM Post #189 |
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I blame Corday, but also JT. There is an old interview in SOW back at the time with Josh and Corday talking about how it was their idea and how they thought it was a great idea and how fans wouldn't mind JT playing Roman and how they wouldn't mind he also played CK. So yea, I do put partial blame on Mr. Taylor. |
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| lysie | Mar 2 2016, 03:50 PM Post #190 |
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I STRONGLY disagree with this. There was a lack, but it wasn't in deep emotions. The lack was in making more of a story and more of an ongoing thing. It was a lack of follow up. But Bo and Will's deaths both came with deep emotions. This particular death shouldn't have those kinds of emotions anyway. This idea that no one was upset about Bo or Will is inaccurate. And while Daniel's death definitely dragged longer, it didn't have near the impact either of those did. It's a damn shame they didn't follow up better and keep the characters grieving longer, and it's even more of a shame that they do drag out Daniel's, but that doesn't change what initially aired. This episode was filmed in October, so it was definitely spliced in. I realize that doesn't make some of the weird editing better for some people, but for some reason it helps me. |
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| Supergirlx2 | Mar 2 2016, 03:52 PM Post #191 |
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Because she can & because it's in style. I've seen numerous pairs of earrings by designers like Betsy Johnson that come with 2 different earrings. |
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| Lovejm | Mar 2 2016, 03:53 PM Post #192 |
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I didn't mind it. I was just repeating the Twitter recap |
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| Rosebud | Mar 2 2016, 03:53 PM Post #193 |
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Maybe Vic was jealous of Stefano. Would he snark on his own history with Kate? Funny how they never bring up how Kate and Victor were so in love back in the day. |
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| Lovejm | Mar 2 2016, 03:56 PM Post #194 |
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I really don't mind there being multiple people there today. It lends to the party idea and also allows for different angles and perspectives to be shown. I do wish something for Bo and Hope was shown. Or the Roman Bo beach scene would be even better I really can't wait to watch later. It sounds like they hit on almost everything I was hoping for. And drunk Marlena as a bonus. |
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| lysie | Mar 2 2016, 03:56 PM Post #195 |
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They brought up recently actually. |
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| Hourglass7 | Mar 2 2016, 03:59 PM Post #196 |
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Oh wait I can just watch it on the Global website. B-) |
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| lysie | Mar 2 2016, 04:01 PM Post #197 |
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Marlena and John know Caroline. Also, why was Marlena doing cat calls on her way in? And why does Caroline know Kate's schedule? |
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| lysie | Mar 2 2016, 04:02 PM Post #198 |
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Caroline just became Canadian. |
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| PatNS | Mar 2 2016, 04:02 PM Post #199 |
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Please note: This report is not to be copied and pasted to any other sites. Please link only. Link to summary archive: http://www.network54.com/Forum/358635/ Director: Herb Stein Scriptwriter: Mark Higley Segment 1 There's a thunderstorm happening. Caroline turns the sign on the Brady Pub door to read CLOSED. Roman and Abe come from the back. Roman - Hey is this place still open. Caroline - Only those with an engraved invitation may come. She hugs him. Caroline - Abe, hi. They hug. Caroline - I'm so glad you two got off work early for this ... I don't know what to call it. Abe - Whatever we call it, it's ... John and Marlena come in. Caroline hugs Marlena - Thank you for coming out in this terrible storm. John hugs Caroline - Boy that sure blew in out of nowhere, didn't it? Kate comes in. Caroline - Kate, my goodness, I thought you were in New York on business. Kate - Well I was. I decided to cut my trip short. Didn't want to miss this special occasion. Victor comes in. Caroline - Victor, my goodness. Give me that ... she takes his umbrella. Vic - I hope I'm not late. Marlena - No we just arrived. Caroline - Now that we're all here I guess we should put the show on the road. But first, just a minute, my husband Shawn was saving this for a very special occasion. It is 40 year old Branigan's Irish Whiskey. It's been on the shelf for 25 years. So in honour of Shawn I suggest that we grab a glass and grab a seat. Marlena takes Caroline's hand. Shouldn't we wait for Hope? Doesn't she want to be here. Caroline - She's not coming. I invited her but she declined. Marlena - You know what, it's understandable. She's probably still pretty raw from ... Hope walks up - Yes my emotions are still raw but I decided I had to be here. Caroline - I'm so glad you're here. Grab a glass. Marlena - Come sit by me. Roman pours the whiskey for everyone. Caroline - I want to thank you all for coming out in the storm. We're here to celebrate the end of an era. For 34 years this town has endured unspeakable horrors and unrelenting torment caused by one man. Because of him everyone has suffered terrible losses. By the grace of God his reign of terror has finally come to an end. So here's to the death of Stefano DiMera. Roman - Here, here. Everyone drinks. Marlena - You know I have to admit when I first heard the news it didn't register. How many times has the phoenix risen from the ashes. Abe - Too many. Marlena - I didn't believe it. Roman - We have proof positive it was Stefano. Shawn Douglas tested the DNA against our records. Kate - Who would have thought it would happen that way. I mean his son, his disciple for God's sake. Never in my wildest dreams did I think it would be Andre who ended up shooting him. I thought it would be you John. John - I came close. Kate - That's no wonder, you suffered the most at his hands. Vic - Let's not compare who suffered the most at that psychopath's hands. The fact is that any one of us would have been justified to put a couple of bullets in the S.O.B. Some of us already did. Marlena - I'm not really proud of that. Vic - Well you should be. It was very heroic. I for one found new respect for you after that. Roman - You know what gets me is how naïve we were when he first came to town back in '82 I think it was. Caroline - That's because we had no history of the feud between the DiMera's and the Brady's. Decades ago all because of a disastrous love affair between Stefano's father and Shawn's sister, Colleen Brady. Roman - He was so determined to get revenge he tried to assassinate me at my own wedding to Marlena. Marlena - What a fun day that was. Roman - Yeah, there is no doubt Stefano DiMera was the most evil man I've ever encountered. The guy had no conscious whatsoever. I mean look what he did to my daughter Carrie. Hypnotizing her to get what ever the hell he wanted. John - Yeah hypnosis, that was one of his favourite tools. Hell, he could have made a career out of it. Roman - Yeah maybe he could have if he didn't like killing so much. When I think about how much time I spent trying to put him behind bars ... you know what, I do have to admit this ... the man may have been missing a heart but unfortunately that mind of his worked extremely well. He always seemed to be one step ahead. Cue f/b of Stefano taunting Abe and Roman about some gas leak and telling them he wants Marlena arrested for assault and attempted murder. It was she who injected me with the deadly toxins that left me paralyzed. He threatens that if they don't bring her to justice and punish her, he will. Roman - You know I always thought I could bring him down within the confines of the law. Now I'm convinced that going outside the law was the only way I could have defeated him. The only way anyone could have defeated him. Segment 2 John - Mmm, Shawn, that is mighty fine single malt whiskey. Caroline - Abe, refill? Abe - Oh, yeah, please. Thank you. Roman - Where'd you go just now. Abe - To Theo. I can't help feeling for my son. Stefano always treated him well, with respect, affection. God knows there would come a time when he understood ... I think he's beginning to understand that Nano's love for him couldn't compensate for the pain he's caused so many others. Stefano would have inevitably disappointed Theo profoundly. John - Or he would have taken him under his wing and then you would have done everything you could to try and protect him ... Abe - My protecting him may not have gone far enough. Kate - He had an intense hold on people. Abe - Especially family. I suppose you could say he loved his children, his grandchildren, was devoted to them. For Stefano love meant control. He was an expert at it. He got so into his kid's heads that you know they couldn't help but be corrupted by him, even Lexie. Cue f/b of Abe overhearing Lexie complaining to Stefano about Abe not seeing all the love in Stefano and Stefano smirking at him. Abe - You know as angry and disappointed as Lexie often was with Stefano, deeply ashamed as she was by his behaviour there's just no question that she still loved him even in the face of his astounding cruelty. Being a child of Stefano is a curse. Too many of his children were destroyed by his actions. Marlena - Tony, Renee, Megan ... Caroline - Benji ... John - Kristen, EJ. Kate - Well let's just hope that Chad has learned to move beyond his father's shadow. Vic - Apparently it's too late for that snake Andre and Peter wherever the hell he is. The bottom line is any time Stefano did anything for family, to protect his children, he generally ended up traumatizing them. It had a grizzly end. Almost makes you feel sorry for him. Kate - Maybe you should lay off the Branigan's Victor. Vic - I said almost. Everyone laughs. Segment 3 Vic - What about you Kate, shed any tears for your dearly departed ex-husband. Kate - Well I tried to squeeze out one or two but for some reason it just wasn't happening. John and Marlena laugh. John - Come on Kate you always had a soft spot for Stefano. Since we're all being so brutally honest here tonight, especially with the help of this fine truth serum (the whiskey), it's alright to admit that part of you is sad that he's gone. Kate - Any soft spot I had for Stefano hardened up a long time ago. Although to be completely fair he did come to my rescue when I was raising Lucas on my own with no one to turn to. Vic - In rides the knight in his shining armour on his white horse and turns you into a high priced hooker. The stuff of fairy tales. Kate - Well it wasn't ideal obviously and it humiliates me to this day to be reminded of it. But on the bright side it did put me in touch with the right people; helped me reinvent myself so to speak. Not saying I wasn't going to be a success without Stefano but he did facilitate it, he made it happen sooner and for that I'm grateful. Marlena - And that's what he wanted. He wanted you to be beholden to him. Vic - That's why your gratitude is misplaced. It was manipulation. Kate - But again to be fair I'm probably ... no I'm pretty sure I'm going to be the only to say anything even remotely positive about the man tonight. Maybe you'll throw me out on my ass for doing it but still I'm going to risk it because Stefano DiMera could be charming at times. It's true. He could be charming, funny, loving. Cue f/b of Stefano and Kate after their wedding. He tells her - It's your time. Well I can see all your hearts were warmed by the memory. Chuckles. Vic - Made for each other. Kate - I beg your pardon. Vic - You and Stefano. I know you were blackmailed into marrying him but I always suspected ... frankly the memory you shared with us bears it out. You rather enjoyed being Mrs. Stefano DiMera, didn't you? Kate - I know you'd all prefer that I tell you he was a terrible husband. The truth is Stefano understood me in a way that no one else ever really has. Our downfall as a couple was because of his jealousy, his possessiveness, his unwillingness to forgive a mistake. Vic - Like you sleeping with Ian McAllister. Kate - I got my revenge, didn't I! I stole the company right out from under him. Vic - Only to be forced out by the bastard almost immediately. Kate - I was sick to death of running that stuffy old company anyway. I'm much happier now especially since the man is finally gone from this earth. He's out of my life, he's out of everyone's life forever. Segment 4 Hope looks out the window at the storm. Marlena chuckles. John - What. Marlena - My head is spinning a little bit. John - So is mine. You know what, I think it's mainly from the rush I'm getting just thinking about Stefano being dragged through the fiery gates. Caroline walks up to Victor. Victor, I've been wondering, do you have any further proof that your brother and Dr. Malcolm worked together to kidnap Bo. Vic - No not yet. Not to discount your vision of Malcolm and Deimos's connection I'm still operating under the assumption that Stefano was behind what happened to Bo. Caroline - Hope what do you think? Hope - I think until there's proof that Deimos was involved, I'm with Victor. I fully believe Stefano was the man responsible. Roman comes up - What are you three whispering about? Kate - Do tell, I love secrets. Vic - I was just saying I only have one complaint about Stefano's early demise. Kate - Oh, what's that? That you didn't pull the trigger? Vic - No he died still owing me a favour. Kate laughs - He owed you a favour! Abe - I bet it had something to do with last year's temporary stay on his tax evasion charges that allowed him to swoop in and reclaim his company. The Judge that issued that order was a buddy of yours as I recall. Vic - I'm a big picture guy Abe. I don't have the power of retention as you obviously do about minor details. Kate - Minor details my ass! You double crossed me. You bastard. You were working with him the whole time. You helped him kick me out of that job. Vic - My powers of retention not withstanding it seems to me not 5 minutes ago you were saying you didn't like running that stuffy old company. Kate - I can not believe I didn't figure that out. On second thought how the hell could I have ever figured it out because after all the bad blood between the two of you, how could anyone ever believe that you would team up with him against me. Vic - Get over yourself. It's not about you. Despite the hatred that Stefano and I had for each other and the raging competitiveness we had a respect. In fact and this may be the whiskey talking, God knows but I'm going to miss going up against a formidable opponent like that. Kate - Ahh, that's so touching. That's positively touching. Are you going to miss the bloodshed as well? I tell you what why don't you use your powers of retention to recall the challenge when your formidable opponent decided that our son was responsible for Tony DiMera's death. Do you remember that? Cue f/b of Stefano confronting Vic about Philip killing Tony and Stefano threatening Phil's life. Vic - I concede that it was a little cavalier of me and callous to suggest that I would miss Stefano in any way. Yes we did manage to have some truces at times but they were always tenuous. When it comes right down to it I'm glad the bastard's dead. May he roast in hell. Segment 5 Kate - Well as satisfying as this has been it has not been much fun, not for me. What do you say we put on some music, maybe lighten things up a bit. Caroline - Why not. Marlena - Good idea. Caroline turns the radio on but gets static. Caroline - There's nothing. It must be the storm. Kate - So I guess we need to listen to someone else. Marlena! Marlena - Yes Kate. Kate - Is it strange? Marlena - Is what strange? Kate - Not having to worry about being kidnapped for the zillionth time. Marlena - Oh that. I'm just going to have to adjust. Kate - No offence but I never really understood Stefano's obsession with you. What was it that made you so special to him? Marlena - You mean besides my incredible beauty and my rapier wit and my big heart? Kate - Yup, aside from that. Marlena - Well I never really understood why he was so obsessed with me. We had a conversation right after he had kidnapped the twins. He said he thought of me as his equal. The lengths he went to win me over were amazing and his feelings weren't genuine. They weren't real. He just wanted to win. It was a challenge. Cue f/b of Marlena asking Stefano why he desired her. Stefano put us through so much, all of us. And it was John, it was my love for John that kept me strong. Cue f/b of Marlena refusing to sleep with Stefano while in that cage because John spoke to her. Stefano caused me, caused my family so much pain. He took Roman and me away from our children. I'm not sure Sami could ever be the same afterwards. In fact I think she might have been justified ... Kate - Justified in what? Marlena - Justified in taking her children out of Salem, away from their grandfather. Segment 6 Kate - Why do I get the feeling that you were going to say something else. Marlena - I don't know. John - I just think the point is Stefano has caused a lot of suffering. Roman - Says the man who took the brunt of it. Abe - Starting with having your ID stolen. John - Questions about my past still haunt me to this day. I mean I don't remember anything until DiMera had Petrov bring me here to Salem on Stefano's orders. But you know something, I have been doing a little bit of research and I know who my parents were. Abe - When did this happen? John - Just recently. It's all happening now. As far as my mother goes there's nothing much to talk about but my father was a war hero, Korea. But outside of that I don't remember anything until I came to Salem thanks to Stefano DiMera's hypnosis. He was just keeping his soldier in control. Cue f/b of John telling Stefano the bill is due and he's going to make him pay. Vic - Ironic don't you think. John was created to be Stefano's pawn and yet he turns out to be his most formidable rival. John - Yeah we had some epic battles. He tried over and over again to keep Doc and me apart. But you know something, in the end, he was the one who ended up dying all alone. And I ended up with the love of my life. Kiss. Caroline - Hope, dear, haven't you anything to say. I just thought it might make you feel better to let it all out. I think it's helped us to talk about it. Don't you have anything to say about the death of Stefano? Segment 7 Hope stares at her drink and recalls her confrontation with Stefano and shooting him. Caroline - Hope? Hope - I prefer to leave Stefano dead in my mind and in reality. Don't feel the need to relive the past. I'm more comfortable listening, not sharing. Caroline - I understand. John - Well alrighty then, if I may, I'd like to say a few words to our guest of horrors who was unable to attend tonight. Abe - Thank God. John - Stefano DiMera spent years trying to destroy all the lives not only at this table but countless others. But despite his power and his vast resources he failed miserably. So Stefano's gone and we're all still standing. Yeah we suffered but we're stronger so in a way I would like to thank Stefano DiMera for testing us, for making us stronger and for proving that love always wins out in the end. Checkmate DiMera. Everyone raises their glasses and says Checkmate. Roman - Well you know it's getting late, time to go. Bye Ma. Marlena - Caroline, thank you for a lovely, lovely time. Caroline - Well I'd say anytime but I hope this is the first and the last time. John kisses her cheek. I like the way you think. Kate - Hey everyone, it stopped raining. The clouds have cleared. I can see stars. John - Well I guess the storm really has passed. Marlena smiles - I think it has. They leave. Caroline - Hope dear, you take care of yourself. They hug. Hope sees Stefano standing there laughing. Hope - Bye. She leaves. Caroline picks up the empty bottle. Shawn dear, I finally found the right occasion to drink your prized Irish whiskey. I think you'd approve. She hears static from the radio and shuts the radio off. She turns out the lights and leaves the room. Cut to Stefano conducting opera music. |
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| lysie | Mar 2 2016, 04:03 PM Post #200 |
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I wonder what Marlena thinks Hope's emotions are raw from. Her "come sit by me" was kind of cute. Also, Marlena knows Hope. |
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