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| Wednesday, March 2nd Episode Discussion | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 1 2016, 07:05 PM (18,508 Views) | |
| The Room Stops | Mar 2 2016, 02:22 PM Post #161 |
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I genuinely loved this. It showed respect for the three characters I needed it to show respect for. Marlena, John and the dead dude. They even brought out some rare flashbacks. And acknowledged that Marlena too lost time with Sami and Eric. AND had her mention the twins' kidnapping and that Stefano wanted her as his equal. |
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| Rosebud | Mar 2 2016, 02:23 PM Post #162 |
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| The Room Stops | Mar 2 2016, 02:24 PM Post #163 |
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I was bracing myself for not only Princess Gina flashback, but subrape. And they left that out entirely. THANK YOU, SHOW. I'm sure Ken would have at least attempted it. |
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| frivolity | Mar 2 2016, 02:25 PM Post #164 |
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Maybe a little nod to 1986 or somthing? ;) |
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| PatNS | Mar 2 2016, 02:29 PM Post #165 |
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Really good episode today! I think after all the years of mayhem and all the havoc Stefano wreaked and the impact on so many people's lives that Stefano deserved a full episode as a send off. I like the people that were there. They all spent so many years of their lives dealing with Stefano's many 'game's. Good or bad his actions influenced so many of the choices they've made in their lifetimes. I liked Caroline's toast in the beginning and I loved John's toast. Checkmate - what a perfect choice for a toast. Sure I would have liked to see some flashbacks from when he first arrived but it's understandable they couldn't be used as Wayne Northrup was playing Roman at the time. I too could have done without another flashback of Hope shooting Stefano but it fit in the context of the dialogue at that point in the episode. The ending was perfect. Stefano conducting an orchestra ... just like he orchestrated so much of their lives. Mark Higley doesn't seem to write very many scripts but the few he's had lately have been really good. I'm hoping he'll in the regular rotation now. |
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| PhoenixRising05 | Mar 2 2016, 02:29 PM Post #166 |
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Mark is a EXCELLENT scriptwriter. I think it was even rumored that he wrote the stuff we got during the 2008 writer's strike with the plane crash and Bo's illness and such. Either that or Dena wrote through him and he just executed well. His scripts have been some of the best lately and he really seems to get the characters. Given the budget, Days needs more episodes like this that feature under 10 characters per show. It would help with the budget and it really helps the writing team because they can just dig in and focus on character dynamics and characterizations. Days only gets around 35 minutes a show. They could better utilize that time by not having every show have so much going on. I know sometimes it would be rough, especially when the focus is on certain other character/stories that aren't doing so well but it would really help with character and relationship building. This regime does so much better when they have less to focus on and less going on in an episode. Hell, most regimes do. Even the worst writers seem to do better with episodes like this. In 2008, during Dena's second reign, we got an episode that I believe only featured 4 characters (I know John and Sami for two of them) and it focused on John being filled in about his past. It was fantastic. You don't even need to only do it for tributes or memory lane type shows. Just have some shows where you focus on one story and a few characters to set things up and build the characters and relationships up. Primetime does it and it helps. The show will never do it because they fear the audience hating it and a good amount of the audience would hate it and think it's boring or whatever. That happens to primetime shows all the time. However, as long as you don't do it every day and follow up an episode like it with something more action packed, it would be fine I think. I just loved the character dynamics in play here. Caroline bringing out the whiskey she and Shawn saved for a special occasion was a nice touch. ictor and Kate and their back and forth and bringing up his working with Stefano against her and how he helped Stefano was such a surprise. All the history references and flashbacks were just awesome and ending the show on that flashback with Stefano conducting was perfection. That scene epitomizes Stefano and how he played puppet master to so many lives. John's toast and the way he and Marlena were both handled was great. They were central to the whole thing. Glad all of Stefano's kids were mentioned (including Peter) and that Abe was involved and Theo referenced. I do wish we had gotten more flashbacks from the 80's. The orchestra one was really the only one. I would've liked some WN stuff, including the cliff scene. Also, I know we are on Hope overload but there should've been at least one Princess Gina flashback and some reference or flashback to Bo's history with Stefano as well. Other than that, I loved the whole thing and was glad Hope saw Stefano at the end there laughing at her. That last moment right before the final flashback of Caroline walking around the Pub and turning out the lights...I just love those moments and we only seem to get them with Griffith. Lysie mentioned this a little yesterday when she mentioned a scene where we saw Chad take 45 seconds to walk across the room...there is a quietness to little things like that which add so much to a scene and really set the scene and give it a resonance. And the production once again was stellar. The thunderstorm was a perfect backdrop as was the Pub. I will give the show a pass on seemingly messing with time again because I honestly believe today's entire show and yesterday's Chad scenes were filmed out of order and may not have been originally planned. Maybe this was the first stuff Griffith and Milstein did and threw into the mix. It kind of gave me the same vibe that I got back in early 2002 when an episode written by B&C showed up a month before their material began airing because they felt like an episode was needed to lay the foundation for what they were going to do and to address some things. I felt the same here. I feel like Griffith and Milstein felt Chad needed closure and the character of Stefano deserved more so they came up with all this and just tossed it in, which is why the editing is wonky once again. That is how it felt to me anyway. Whatever the case, I'm glad they did this. It was awesome. Edited by PhoenixRising05, Mar 2 2016, 02:30 PM.
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| wallflower | Mar 2 2016, 02:35 PM Post #167 |
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| wallflower | Mar 2 2016, 02:37 PM Post #168 |
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Marlena had a chance to do it and all she did was drug him and put him in a catatonic state or something. She only rendered him helpless when she should have rendered him dead. I think she was conflicted about her ethics as a doctpr maybe. |
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| Rosebud | Mar 2 2016, 02:39 PM Post #169 |
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| wallflower | Mar 2 2016, 02:50 PM Post #170 |
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That isn`t JT`s fault. The crew f`d that up a long time ago. |
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| DOOLette | Mar 2 2016, 02:52 PM Post #171 |
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An absolute piece of dreck. Seasoned actors reading. their. badly. written. and. directed. lines. High schoolers would have done a better job. Only flashbacks were needed to showcase Stefano's history with Days. He was a masterful villain. Today's epi did its best to diminish his legacy. |
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| Restless84 | Mar 2 2016, 03:07 PM Post #172 |
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Well I'm sorry, but it was a memorable story and should have been at least mentioned. I know Hope is front and center having killed Stefano, but they should have spent some time on Bo & Hope vs. Stefano. |
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| wallflower | Mar 2 2016, 03:07 PM Post #173 |
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AGAIN. it is not JT`s fault! It`s the shows fault for : *killing off Roman in the first place *bringing him back only to decide he isn`t Roman after all *bringing in WN to play Alex North *bringing in JT to play Roman after the damage had already been done to that idea It`s like they couldn`t decide if they really wanted Roman Brady so they screwed the whole damn story up. DH was great when we thought he was Roman and they could haave let it go right there. DH is great with the other DH as John Black. So why on God`s green earth did they have to screw with the story after that. I am sure JT didn`t force them to. Edited by wallflower, Mar 2 2016, 03:15 PM.
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| Hamilton | Mar 2 2016, 03:10 PM Post #174 |
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I think it's cool they took an episode filled with vets and payed tribute to Stefano's exit from the show. I liked it was held at the pub and Caroline brought out the special whiskey to celebrate his passing. I loved how Marlena got tipsy. I wished for better flashbacks that really showcased Stefano's ruthlessness toward John and Roman, but they did included Marlena in the cage and the great one of Stefano orchestrating at the end. I liked the one of Lexie being taken in by Stefano as Abe looked on and then caught the eye of Stefano because that really highlighted how manipulative the man could be and it fit so well with Abe's feelings about Theo and Stefano's relationship. Touching on Stefano going after Philip so Victor would feel similar pain was a good moment of reflection too. The focus on Kate and Stefano seemed a bit heavy even though I enjoyed Victor snarking on her memories. She was taken with his devilish charm, so that needed to be included and it was amusing to see her annoyance over Marlena being Stefano's obsession. It definitely felt like some groundwork was being laid for future story when she found out Victor crossed her to help Stefano. I thought it appropriate Hope was quiet throughout. Killing Stefano is still weighing heavily on her despite the relief in all the faces surrounding her. I thought showing her killing him in flashback completely unnecessary and frankly annoying at this point. I get why they didn't pull out a specific confrontation to use from her past in a flashback. She needn't feel victimized any longer. She took care of the bastard. I think the ending vision of Stefano was all that was needed for Hope. (I do wish he had a glass in hand raising it to her in toast though! That would have been cool.) Overall really well done. Set well with the storm and characters chosen. Current stories touched on just enough. Ended beautifully with Joe in all his glory. |
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| wallflower | Mar 2 2016, 03:12 PM Post #175 |
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Yes. They explained the changes as plastic surgery so I don`t understand it either why they couldn`t use the older flashbacks with WN. The show really made a big mess of the whole thing. |
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| wallflower | Mar 2 2016, 03:20 PM Post #176 |
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Ditto THIS x100000000000 |
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| rfsexton | Mar 2 2016, 03:22 PM Post #177 |
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His ghost or really him |
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| wallflower | Mar 2 2016, 03:24 PM Post #178 |
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The show`s staff was on crack when they made that whole mess in the first place. |
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| Hourglass7 | Mar 2 2016, 03:26 PM Post #179 |
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Does anyone know where else I can watch this ep? My tv connection turned off today before it could be recorded and I really wanted to see this one. |
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| wallflower | Mar 2 2016, 03:31 PM Post #180 |
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I don`t think people forget I think they only want to see the few characters they like. |
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