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Friday, March 4th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Mar 3 2016, 07:41 PM (9,283 Views)
daysyrghfan
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Ocean
Mar 4 2016, 03:11 PM
Off the topics . Hi everyone, I was coming home for lunch to do as usual recap for the show and I fell so hard on the ice I hurt my left arm badly and I had to go to see a doctor for X-ray. I will watch the show later on and you guys have a wonderful weekend. Be safe and happy.
Sorry to hear that. That ice is so dangerous. Take care of yourself.
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Mar 4 2016, 03:03 PM
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Mar 4 2016, 01:41 PM
Who all's pictures did Deimos stab in the end?
Maggie, Victor, Brady, Hope & Caroline
Ok so why Hope? He already tortured/held Bo (we think). Why not, Phillip(son), Sean D(grandchild), Ciara (grandchild). Oh I know, Hope needs more screen time :eyeroll: :eyeroll: :eyeroll:
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http://www.network54.com/Forum/358635/

Director: Noel Maxam
Scriptwriter: David Cherrill



Segment 1 Vic is seated on the sofa in the K mansion study. Thank you for coming by Caroline. I was hoping we could talk about what happened when you ran into Deimos. Caroline - Really not very much except for the smell. Vic - I'm sorry. Caroline - Well I mean Stefano DiMera may be dead but evil has a particular stench and it doesn't matter who it's coming off. Vic - I hope that means you'll give him a wide berth. My half-brother means to hurt me. Caroline - Why? Why does he hate you so much? Vic - It goes back a long way. Caroline - You know we go back a long way too. Don't you think I deserve to know the whole story.

Deimos is on the phone in his hotel room. He throws down a pic of Caroline. Yes I've gone over the file Philip gave me of the serum. Pic of Vic is next. Seems genuine. I'm having a lab test it as we speak. If it passes I'll send it right on over.

Phil enters The Edge where Belle is. You're just full of surprises, aren't you? I checked the local business news this morning. Lo and behold you're the lead. You bought this place from my Dad. Belle - And I've got big plans for it. Phil - I can't wait to hear all about them after you tell me what happened. When I woke up I was all alone. Why'd you take off? Belle - I shouldn't have been there. It was wrong.

Ciara is in bed. She wakes up when she hears someone. Chase - You know you want it too. You're always flirting and wearing those tight clothes. Nobody's going to believe that you didn't want me too. So now I'm going to do it again. Ciara keeps hearing his voice saying nobody's going to believe that you didn't want me too.

Chase paces in the dungeon. He picks up his phone. No, it'll just make everything worse. He makes a call. Hey Aunt Sharon, it's Chase. How are you? Yeah, surprise, surprise. Hey listen I've been thinking about what you said after Dad died about me coming up to live with you in Chicago.

Ciara comes downstairs and stares at the couch. Cue rape f/b. Hope comes back. Hey, Jen ran out of coffee so I stopped by ... honey, what's wrong. Hey talk to me. Ciara - I'm okay. I just feel like I'm coming down with something. I don't know, I'll be all right. Hope - Are you sure? Ciara - Yeah. I've got to go to school. Hope - Before you go sweetie can I just talk to you for a second. Sit down for a moment. Honey I know that some really heartbreaking, awful things have happened lately and it's been very painful for you. Maybe I'm repeating myself but it bears repeating, baby I need you to know that I love you with all my heart. I'm here for you 100%. You're my priority. You are the most important thing. Nothing else matters in this world but you. Ciara hugs her - Oh Mom, you're so great. I feel like I keep messing up. Hope - Honey, a lot of terrible things happened to you. You know what, you made it through stronger every time. Ciara, I couldn't be more proud of you. Baby, what is it. Ciara - Mom, there's something I've got to tell you.


Segment 2 Ciara - I ... Mom, I ... Hope - Sweetheart, it's okay. Take your time. Ciara - I need to tell you that if anyone's the strong one here it's you. I mean seriously. People try to hurt you and you don't let them. You fight and you win. I just wish I could have been strong like that. Hope - I think you and I both know that my toughness is just a pose for bad guys. When you're a cop you learn not to show emotion or weakness. Hey speaking about that I was thinking about possibly going back to the force. It's not definite, just a possibility but what do you think about it. Ciara - I think you love being a cop. It's a great idea. Hope - Are you sure you're okay. Maybe you are coming down with something. She feels her forehead. Someone knocks. Ciara - Claire's here. I'll be all right. Claire - You ready? Hope - Hi sweetheart. She kisses Ciara - Have a great day. Outside Claire asks Ciara - What's the matter? Ciara - Nothing. Claire - You're kidding, right. Ciara - I'm fine. Claire - No offence but you look like you didn't sleep at all and the way you were acting at that party. Come on, it's time. What's wrong? Ciara - Nothing. Claire - You know whatever it is you can tell your Mom. Whatever it is obviously is making you crazy okay so just get it out. We can deal with it together. Ciara - Okay, just not here. Come on.

Chase - It's not a good time huh. You sold the house. Wow. Yeah, super fast. No it's fine. Stuff happens. Okay well you take care. It was nice talking to you. Bye. Now what the hell am I supposed to do and where the hell is Andre! He grabs his jacket and leaves.

Maggie is sitting at a table in the square. Deimos stops when he sees her. Good morning. Maggie - Good morning. Goodbye. Deimos - I guess Victor's given you your marching orders where it comes to me. Maggie - My husband ... I'm curious about something. I can certainly understand why spending 30 years in prison must have given you a terrible feeling of waste. But just because Victor, my husband, your brother, used that same time to build a wonderful life for himself and his family, why are so determined to hurt him. Deimos - OMG, he hasn't told you the truth, has he.

Vic - Her name was Helena. Beautiful girl. Sweet, smart. Long black hair, blue eyes that literally glowed. And then the night before we were to be married Deimos seduced her. Then he came to me and spit it in my face. Caroline - Victor maybe this is more difficult to talk about than I realised it was so ... Vic - No. I want to explain. The next morning I saw her on a hillside overlooking the Aegean. I confronted her, she admitted it, we fought, she fell hitting her head on a rock when she tumbled down. Caroline - My God. Vic - When the police and I found her body Deimos was standing right next to her, blood on his hands and note from her in his pocket saying she never wanted to see him again. The police arrested him for murder. He got life, commuted after 30 years. That's it. You know this is the first time I ever told anyone the whole story. Caroline - Is that the whole story? Vic - What do you mean? Caroline - I have to ask. I mean you were angry, jealous, she betrayed you. I just have to ask you ... did you murder her and let your brother be convicted?


Segment 3 Maggie - What truth hasn't my husband told me? Deimos - Oh my brother, unbelievable. He's spun so many lies about me for so long he probably believes them himself. Maggie - What lies? Deimos - I'll tell you what, I'll let him explain it to you himself. Have a good day.

Vic - No, there was no murder. It was an accident. She was kicking the ground, furious at me for cancelling the wedding. Angry at herself for being so weak and then she just stumbled. I reached to catch her, she pulled her hand away and that's it. She was gone. I was horrified and then when Deimos was arrested ... well quite frankly after what he had done I thought it was a perfect punishment. Is there anything else you'd like to know? Caroline - Have you told Maggie yet? Vic - No, I didn't want her to hate me. Caroline - Oh Victor! It's alright for your brother to hate you all these years. Vic - He was a S.O.B. then. He's a S.O.B. now. Let him. Caroline - Even if it causes you all this stress. Vic - I can handle anything Deimos throws my way. He'll keep coming after me but always at an angle. Caroline - What does that mean? Vic - It means he's not man enough to come at me face to face. He'll keep going after the people I love.

Belle - What I want is to build a life, you know, a real one where I can be there for my daughter and make her happy. Phil - And to hell with me. Belle - I didn't say that. Phil - Okay, a life without me. Belle - Philip, I ... Phil - Last night you were happy. Totally having fun, letting go. So was I. Then the sun comes up and you decide ... WTH, who am I to you? Just some friend with benefits. Help me out here will you. How do you really feel about me?

Claire and Ciara come through the gates into the park. Claire - Come on Ciara, you know that I won't tell anyone. I'm the best at keeping secrets. My Mom and Dad say I'm literally like the Sphinx. So come on, let's hear it. Ciara, you're going to go crazy if you don't get it out. Ciara - Okay. So what happened was ... cue yet another f/b of the rape. She starts to cry. Claire - Ciara come on. Ciara - We've got to get to school. She takes off. Claire follows her into the square and grabs her arm. Ciara, stop. Ciara snaps - Don't touch me. Ciara starts to walk away and literally runs into Chase. You! What are you still doing here? You're supposed to be gone. Chase - Yeah I was going to. Look Ciara, I ... Ciara takes off. Claire calls out after her. Chase - Oh man. Claire - Hey, you. No, you are not going anywhere. Not until you tell me exactly what's going on.


Segment 4 Caroline - Victor, please remember what I said; not too much stress. He's not worth it. Maggie comes in. Hi Caroline, how are you? Caroline - Hi. I'm fine. How are you? Maggie - Fine. Caroline - You look lovely; you always do. I've got to go. I'm on the run. Vic - Take care. Caroline - Bye. Maggie - Good to see you again. Caroline - You too. She leaves. Maggie - What was that all about. Vic - Why don't we sit down. Maggie - Is this going to be about Deimos. I ran into him at the square. He said you're keeping something from me. Vic - For once he's not lying. Maggie - Is it about what happened all those years ago. Vic - It started the day before my wedding. I told you this before but there was quite a bit that I left out.

Phil - Okay, you needed coffee, you made some. Now do I get an answer. Belle - We agreed not to put labels on things, remember. How we feel about each other isn't really something we should be discussing. Phil - Why the hell not? Belle - Because we agreed. Phil - No actually you agreed. I just kind of said okay. I do want to talk about how we feel. Belle - Then you should go over to that mirror right there, look at yourself because that's the only person that's going to be answering you. Phil - Come on Belle. We both have had affairs, one night stands, whatever. That's not what I want with you. I want ... I need more. I don't want something casual. I don't want to be with anyone else and I don't want you to be with anyone else. So do I get what I want?

Claire - Did you do something to hurt Ciara? Chase - What makes you ask that? Claire - Because she's in a really bad place and because she was totally freaked out when she saw you. Chase - No. Did she say anything about me? Claire - No, she's just really messed up right now. Listen we should all try to help her you know. Maybe you and I could sort of team up. Chase - I can't. I've got to go. Claire - Chase wait up. Do you want to maybe hang out later? Chase - I can't. I'm leaving town. Claire - What? Chase - Yeah I'm going to go to Chicago and live with my aunt. Claire - For good? Chase - Yeah for good. Living here really isn't working for me anymore. Claire - Okay well if this is your last day can't we at least go have coffee or something. Chase - Claire, I ... Claire - Chase, I'm just going to say it. Are you still hung up on Ciara, is that it? Chase - No it's not. She doesn't even want me around anymore which is fine. In fact if you want to hang out, let's do it. I'll text you. Claire - Okay, yeah great. We'll have lots of fun. Right now I've got to go and see if I can catch up with Ciara. See you later. She leaves. Theo walks up as Chase is going to leave. Wait. What did you do to Ciara? Chase - If everybody wants to know what's up with Ciara why don't they ask her. Why the hell would I know. I haven't seen her in a while and she practically knocks me over a while ago. Theo - Coward. Chase - What? Theo - I said you're a coward. You tried to bully me in texts. Look I know you did something to Ciara and trust me, when I figure it out ... Chase - I am so glad I am going to leave tomorrow so I don't have to deal with all you guys and your stuff and your paranoia and dumb questions. He leaves.

Claire finds the door to the Horton house ajar. She goes inside. Claire finds Ciara curled up in Alice's chair. Claire - The door was slightly opened. When I saw which way you were headed I figured you were going to bail on school. Silence. Chase is leaving town. He's moving to Chicago. Ciara - Good. Claire - Ciara, why are you so down on him! I know you've been going through a really touch time lately. So has he and ... Ciara - What? Claire - You know how I feel about him. I was kind of hoping I could talk him into staying. We're going to meet up later. Ciara gets up - Don't you dare go meet that piece of ... don't meet him anywhere, okay! He's insane. He's just like his Dad. He's dangerous. Claire - What are you ... where is all this coming from? What did he ever even do to you! Ciara, come on, don't run away from me. Just talk to me okay. What did he do? Did he say something? Maybe you just misunderstood. He's actually kind of sweet. Sexy, too. Ciara, why do you get so upset just talking about him? Did he do something? Hurt you? Talk to me. Okay, the fact that you're not denying it means he did hurt you. Cue f/b of rape yet again. Claire - OMG. Did he hit you, is that what he did? OMG. No, no, that can't be. I can't say this. Ciara, did he rape you? Ciara nods yes and cries. Claire - OMG. She hugs her and holds her close.


Segment 5 Belle - Philip I've made myself clear on this more than once. Phil - But you keep changing your mind. Belle - No I don't. I just sometimes like to be with you. Phil - Like last night? Belle - Yeah like last night. That doesn't mean that I'm ready for a commitment. No labels. I'm me. You're you and sometimes we hook up. Phil - But I'm a Kiriakis remember. I like to get what I want. Belle - Yeah. Phil - Hey I know you're afraid. We've got history, chemistry, there's no denying that, right? I like the way we feel for each other. My guess is you feel the same way. Kiss.

Vic - Of course he deserves to be punished. Her death was an accident but what he did set it all in motion. I'll never regret that I kept my mouth shut and watched that bastard get what he deserves. Maggie - And you never thought to tell me about it. Vic - Maggie I'm not afraid of many things but I thought if I told you I might lose you. Maggie - So you hoped it would stay buried. Vic - And it did until Deimos wormed his way out of prison and decided to come make my a living hell. He turned Philip against me and than came and laughed in my face about it. Same thing all over again. Maggie - And apparently I'm next on his list. Vic - Yes and that's going to stop right now. Maggie - Victor come back here. He's gone.

Claire hands Ciara a box of tissues. Are you sure? Are you sure it wasn't that you guys were making out and it went to far. Ciara - God no. How could you even say that! Why would I call it rape if that's what it was! I'm not an idiot Claire. Claire - No, I'm sorry. Ciara - I kept saying no. No. No! Claire - I'm shocked. Have you told your Mom? Ciara - No, I'm too ashamed. Claire - Ashamed. Ciara, this is not your fault! This is on him. Ciara - I know but it makes sick to have anyone know, especially my Mom. She'd be disgusted and horrified and she'd picture it, just like you are now. Claire - No, I'm not, I swear. I'm just feeling so bad for you, so worried. Have you gone to the hospital, gotten checked out? Ciara shakes her head no. No, it's too late. Claire - God I really hate to bring this up. What if he gave you an STD. Or what if you're pregnant. You're probably not and I don't mean to scare you or make you feel any worse than you do ... you know, just to be sure. It's just a blood test so ... Ciara - I'm not going to the hospital, okay. No one would believe me anyway. Claire - Ciara why would you say that! I do and your Mom definitely would. You should really tell her. Ciara - I just can't okay. Please don't tell anyone. Claire - Sure, of course not. It's up to you to tell her and anyone else. But what are you going to do? Ciara - I don't know. I hope that one day this horrible memory will make me stop feeling so sick and really, really angry. That one day I just don't think about it anymore. Someone knocks. Claire - I'll take care of it. Theo - Hey, came to see if you're okay. Ciara - I'm not feeling well. I think I might have the flu that's why I didn't go to school. Theo - Do you want me to get you something from the store. Tell me what you need and I'll go get it for you. Ciara - No, it's okay. Thanks. Hey listen, about the party. I'm really sorry. I'm just going through a lot of stuff right now. I should probably be alone. Theo - What's going on? Look Ciara whatever it is I'm your friend okay. Hope walks in - Whoa, hey. My goodness. I thought you kids went to school. What's wrong? What's going on here?


Segment 6 Ciara - I started to feel a little worse so I just came home. They just wanted to make sure I'm alright. Hope gets a blanket for Ciara. Theo and Claire, you should get to school. Theo - Yeah right. Claire - Take care Ciara. Theo - Text me. In the doorway he tells Claire - I'm not going to school. She's in trouble. Hope - Don't you think you should tell me what's really going on here. You're not this upset because you're not feeling well. Ciara, I love you. Ciara - Mom, I'm just feeling weird and achy. I think I should just go back to bed for a little while. She runs up the stairs.

Chase is in the square but hides when he hears Shawn and Rafe. Shawn - Are you serious? Rafe - That's what your Mom said. She's coming back to the force. Shawn - That's great. She's an amazing detective and she loves it too. You're cool with that right? Rafe - Yeah, of course.

Belle breaks the kiss. Philip, please, I don't like being put on the spot like this. Can't we just keep things easy, no strings. Phil - How the hell am I going to do that when I know in here (he points to his heart) what I really want. Belle - I'm not going to let you push me into something. Why can't we work on just being happy. Phil - Man there is no way I'm going to change your mind, is there? Because you haven't a clue what you really want. Fair warning Belle, until you figure that out you're never going to be happy. He leaves.

Deimos is putting his pictures away when one of Vic's men opens the door. Vic - Pack your bags Deimos. You're on the next plane. Deimos - Oh really and where might I be going. Vic - Hell as far as I'm concerned. Far away from Salem. Deimos - And why is that big brother? Because you've been lying to everyone in your family all these years. Now the truth is finally starting to come out. Tell you what. Why don't we give it another month, maybe two. Let's see if you're still the beloved old patriarch everyone thought you were. Vic - You really think you can turn my family against me. Deimos - There is the matter of your son, right. And then there's dear sweet Maggie. I'm assuming she had some questions for you today. Am I right? Vic signals the thug who grabs Deimos. Thug - Fight me, I break a bone. Vic - Don't worry, Nikos. He won't fight. He's stupid but not that stupid. He rips Deimos's shirt open. He pulls out a knife and presses it to Deimos's chest.


Segment 7 Chase is pacing in the park. Come on Claire, where are you? He sends a text.

Claire - No we just need to let her be alone for a little while. Theo - She's really sad. Something's wrong. Claire hears a tone and sees she has a text from Chase. She turns off her phone. Theo - Why won't you tell me? Claire - Tell you what? Theo - You know why Ciara's messed up, don't you. Claire - Yeah but I just have no idea how to help her.

Ciara is lying in her bed curled up in the fetal position crying.

Caroline comes into the square. She has a vision of Vic suffering a heart attack. She sits down.

Vic has made a mark on Deimos's chest. When you make a deal with the devil you need to bear the mark. Now you do. Nikos lets him go. Vic and Nikos leave. Deimos picks up the knife, lays out his pictures and stabs them all.
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I am on Deimos side on this. Victor had no right to let him go to jail for a crime he did not commit. I am getting scared though that Victor may have a heart attack because of Caroline's visions. Ciara/Claire stuff was awesome. They played it very well. So looking forward to next week.
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Mar 4 2016, 03:11 PM
Off the topics . Hi everyone, I was coming home for lunch to do as usual recap for the show and I fell so hard on the ice I hurt my left arm badly and I had to go to see a doctor for X-ray. I will watch the show later on and you guys have a wonderful weekend. Be safe and happy.
I hate the ice. I hope your arm starts to feel better soon. Get some rest. :hug:
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I still think Victor isn't telling the entire truth. I still get the feeling that he killed Helena.

All I kept thinking today was GO Deimos!!
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Mar 4 2016, 03:44 PM
I still think Victor isn't telling the entire truth. I still get the feeling that he killed Helena.

All I kept thinking today was GO Deimos!!
I'm with you. I just hope he goes easy on the family however, they had nothing to do with Victor's notorious past.
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Watched today because I wanted to see Ciara tell Hope. Also wanted to see Hope and Ciara talking. Why in the h*ll are Hope and Ciara never allowed to mention Bo??? Or Caroline?

Seriously, if after what Ciara went through losing her dad after just getting him back, and I saw her crying I might ask if she is missing him. As a writer, I might have Ciara say something like, "Dad, I need you...why did you have to die??" Why don't Claire and Hope act like they are related? Claire is her first grandchild, the grandchild living because of Zach's death. There should a HUGE emotional connection there....I do not care how long they have been apart. Why isn't Shawn reaching out to his sister and mother?

I thought the scenes between Ciara and Claire were decent but frankly I am more impressed with VJ than the actress playing Claire. I did not think she showed enough emotion finding out a boy she is crushing on, raped her aunt/friend. Theo was good. My heart is breaking for Ciara so I guess VJ does better....for me.

As for Victor and Diemos.....again this is where writing can make or break a story. Victor can have his anger, but to have him admit he allowed his brother to go to jail for a crime he did not commit.....is just stupid writing. Is this supposed to justify it if Deimos was the one who had Bo tortured? Was his game to get back at Victor via torturing his son???

Unlike many here, I never found VI particularly sexy or even handsome. I do think he is good actor when he plays a villain. But I am not going to be happy if they make him both the one who tortured Bo and then justify it. UNFORGIVABLE. TORTURE IS ALWAYS UNFORGIVABLE....and having Victor do that knife thing today turned me off.

The whole approach of having Caroline and Maggie be upset over the wrong thing (Victor stressing or Victor lying) rather than Victor allowing an innocent to spend all those years in jail. Now i would get that if Caroline believes Diemos is the one who kidnapped and tortured Bo. Then she should hate Deimos and be very angry with Victor.

I am sorry, this writing is simply not connecting the emotional dots. I need characters to make sense... I need the writing to connect the dots. I need characters to be less shallow. I need history and characters from history MATTER.

I am trying to tune in to see some of the show but seriously it is getting more and more difficult.
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trojangal
Mar 4 2016, 03:03 PM
daysyrghfan
Mar 4 2016, 01:41 PM
Who all's pictures did Deimos stab in the end?
Maggie, Victor, Brady, Hope & Caroline
Oh. Deimos found a pic of Hope. I don't recall us having seen her picture in his collection before.
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J&M and Family Fanatic!

The writers struggle with getting relationships right with characters like Claire who are literally related to EVERYONE.
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J&M and Family Fanatic!

Claire is giving me the compassionate side of KS Belle vibes today.
Edited by JTClassicSoaps, Mar 4 2016, 04:18 PM.
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Bellarke <3

I really like ORK as Claire and KP as Theo. Both are doing a great job. :)
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Mar 4 2016, 04:09 PM
Watched today because I wanted to see Ciara tell Hope. Also wanted to see Hope and Ciara talking. Why in the h*ll are Hope and Ciara never allowed to mention Bo??? Or Caroline?

Seriously, if after what Ciara went through losing her dad after just getting him back, and I saw her crying I might ask if she is missing him. As a writer, I might have Ciara say something like, "Dad, I need you...why did you have to die??" Why don't Claire and Hope act like they are related? Claire is her first grandchild, the grandchild living because of Zach's death. There should a HUGE emotional connection there....I do not care how long they have been apart. Why isn't Shawn reaching out to his sister and mother?

I thought the scenes between Ciara and Claire were decent but frankly I am more impressed with VJ than the actress playing Claire. I did not think she showed enough emotion finding out a boy she is crushing on, raped her aunt/friend. Theo was good. My heart is breaking for Ciara so I guess VJ does better....for me.

As for Victor and Diemos.....again this is where writing can make or break a story. Victor can have his anger, but to have him admit he allowed his brother to go to jail for a crime he did not commit.....is just stupid writing. Is this supposed to justify it if Deimos was the one who had Bo tortured? Was his game to get back at Victor via torturing his son???

Unlike many here, I never found VI particularly sexy or even handsome. I do think he is good actor when he plays a villain. But I am not going to be happy if they make him both the one who tortured Bo and then justify it. UNFORGIVABLE. TORTURE IS ALWAYS UNFORGIVABLE....and having Victor do that knife thing today turned me off.

The whole approach of having Caroline and Maggie be upset over the wrong thing (Victor stressing or Victor lying) rather than Victor allowing an innocent to spend all those years in jail. Now i would get that if Caroline believes Diemos is the one who kidnapped and tortured Bo. Then she should hate Deimos and be very angry with Victor.

I am sorry, this writing is simply not connecting the emotional dots. I need characters to make sense... I need the writing to connect the dots. I need characters to be less shallow. I need history and characters from history MATTER.

I am trying to tune in to see some of the show but seriously it is getting more and more difficult.
Bo will hardly ever be mentioned again and you can forget it once DH takes the reigns back over. Why would you mourn Bo, when you can mourn Daniel for two months. The writers want us to forget Bo and get over it.

As for Hope, they do not want to remind us that she can be a "grandma" especially to a teenager. I doubt we will ever hear Claire call her grandma. It is so ridiculous it is funny. Sami could be a grandma but not Hope - just ridiculous. If you don't want to age the character, then don't SORAS the kids. The writers want to keep Hope in the 40 something crowd with Rafe and maybe Aiden. KA looks great that is not the issue but to pretend like Hope is to young to be a grandma to Claire is nuts! If Bo was still on, I don't think this would be a point of contention but they want to keep her "fake" young.

Finally, the writing is just plot driven not character driven. When we do get a little character driven writing we get sucked back in. It will never be consistent especially when Dena is back in the drivers seat.
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Mar 4 2016, 03:11 PM
Off the topics . Hi everyone, I was coming home for lunch to do as usual recap for the show and I fell so hard on the ice I hurt my left arm badly and I had to go to see a doctor for X-ray. I will watch the show later on and you guys have a wonderful weekend. Be safe and happy.
I hope you feel better soon.
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Thank you JCP.

Ouch! Ocean take care and thank you for everything you do for us on this site. Your comments are fun to read and always entertaining.

I hope you are not a "lefty."
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After what went down today with Deimos & Victor, I gotta say it's even more perfect now to bring Xander back.

After the way Victor treated him (he also got the Victor-knife treatment :blulaugh: ) I'd LOVE to see Deimos get him out of jail, so they could team up against ole' Uncle Vic.
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Mar 4 2016, 03:07 PM
Not sure if that was so smart of Victor. Should've just killed him and gotten rid of him instead of branding him. That just pissed him off more.
That was just stupid. Are they trying to turn Victor into Stefano now? :rolleyes:
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Haven't we already heard Claire call Hope grandma? Pretty sure it happened really early on.
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Rosebud
Mar 4 2016, 05:25 PM
Ken Adams
Mar 4 2016, 03:07 PM
Not sure if that was so smart of Victor. Should've just killed him and gotten rid of him instead of branding him. That just pissed him off more.
That was just stupid. Are they trying to turn Victor into Stefano now? :rolleyes:

I LOVE that promo in your avatar. That's what you call a kidnapping! Good times!
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I hope that Deimos rips out Victor's tongue. Might stop him from calling women..whores.
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