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Friday, March 4th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Mar 3 2016, 07:41 PM (9,282 Views)
leighland
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lysie
Mar 4 2016, 05:27 PM
Haven't we already heard Claire call Hope grandma? Pretty sure it happened really early on.
Yes, I believe Matt said it made him cringe.
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lysie
Mar 4 2016, 05:27 PM
Haven't we already heard Claire call Hope grandma? Pretty sure it happened really early on.
The day she returned she said called Hope grandma. Later she referred to Grandpa Bo/John and Grandma Marlena.
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lysie
Mar 4 2016, 05:27 PM
Haven't we already heard Claire call Hope grandma? Pretty sure it happened really early on.
Just the once and then they dropped it.

The November 30th, 2015 episode:

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Shawn: I'm really glad that you stayed, Claire. And I know that your great grandmother's (Caroline) really happy too.

Claire: Family should be together for something like this. So isn't it good that mom got here?

Shawn: Yeah, definitely.

Claire: So is there a reason we didn't go with her to grandma Marlena and grandpa John's?

Shawn: We both thought it'd be... good for her to go there alone.

Claire: Dad, I know something's wrong. I know that you and mom... well, you're not exactly easy around each other.

Shawn: We both also thought it'd be good for you to stay here.

Claire: No, this is not about great grandma (Caroline(. It's not even about grandpa Bo. It's about you and mom. Okay? You need to talk to her.
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Then the December 23rd, 2015 episode:
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Claire: I haven't seen our family in forever, and I love being here. You know, Christmas shopping with grandma (Marlena), and hanging out with Ciara--don't you want to stay here?

Belle: I do.

Claire: Okay, then we need to get dad to come back. Okay, I think it would be really good for grandma Hope to have him here.

Belle: Claire--

Claire: And for us too.

Belle: Your dad and I--

Claire: Yeah, I know, but it's kind of hard to work on things when you're a thousand miles apart.

Belle: I don't think your dad wants to work on things.

Claire: Well, what about you?

Belle: I'm gonna stay here, and your father's gonna stay in Maine, and there's just nothing I can do about that, but, baby, I know that he is missing you so much.

Claire: So you wouldn't miss me if I left?

Belle: Of course, I would miss you.

Claire: Okay, then why does it sound like u can't wait to get rid of me?

Belle: Claire, I just--

Claire: What? What--poor dad's all alone? He could use some company? Well, it's a little bit late to worry about that now. You threw away your marriage and our family.

Belle: I'm so sorry.

Claire: No, you're not sorry, 'cause if you were, you wouldn't be dying to start over without dad... and me.
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It also annoys me that they act as if Philip and Claire have NO bond when for the first year of her life, she was raised as his daughter. She is also still his grandniece. Belle acts like Brady and Eric are her only brothers when Paul also is her brother. Paul has a nephew AND a niece.
Edited by Amazee-Dayzee, Mar 4 2016, 05:59 PM.
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Another boring episode. These characters and story lines are falling flat. The canvas feels pretty vacant and the people left are no fun at all.

Belle was terrible as usual. The rape storyline just makes me sick and these teens just can't pull it off. Hope needs to hop off Rafe's d*** for 10 seconds and pay attention to her daughter more. The writers are struggling to establish Deimos as a villain or threat.
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I enjoyed the teens the most today. Loved the Claire and Ciara scenes. Vivian is doing a great job and ORK continues to be good.
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The rape story. Eh. So far, it feels like an unimpressive, cliff notes version of a rape story except without a shower scene. They showed the rape clips 46 times in today's episode alone. Nice, except not. I'm over Chase. I very rarely ever give a bleep about a character once they commit rape. Kudos to Belle, I mean Claire mentioning pregnancy and STDs though. I do feel the beat of Ciara being ashamed to tell.

The scene(s) of Hope asking Roman to return to the force better not have happened off screen because IMO those are important scenes and have the potential to be a good 1-2 scene(s) if written with common sense.

Deimos and the over 75 crowd caught my interest more than anything today and it's not because the scenes were so good, but eh. Is Victor saying Deimos stealing his girlfriend warranted him putting Deimos in prison for 30 years for a crime he didn't commit? Then he branded Deimos, today? I'd be completely fine with Deimos killing him. Why wasn't Philip in this particular stab-stab photograph selection of Deimos? Hope has been added though! Nice. Side note: I'm not sure if VI was holding in his beer belly or if he's been trying to work out. I see some improvement from his AMC days if he wasn't holding it in.

I sort of like that Belle's not into commitment but I did not find her or Belle & Philip interesting at all today.
Edited by AngelaP, Mar 4 2016, 07:32 PM.
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Excellent episode! One of the best decisions was not to drown the drama with bad musical cues. The dialogue stood out all on its own and the actors brought the emotion needed to the scenes.

Vivian and ORK were fantastic in believably bringing about Ciara confiding in Claire. It really felt true to two teens talking. I love Claire's personality especially. She has this quirky way about her that is endearing and authentic. I felt sad for Ciara as she struggled to tell and I was worried for Claire as she made plans to meet up with Chase. It pleased me that so much of the episode was devoted to this story and that the scenes weren't chopped up. Increasing the length of scenes has been one of my favorite production changes because it allows viewers a chance to become more invested.

Yes! They had Hope right there alert to Ciara being emotionally troubled. I loved the dialogue they gave Hope where she told her daughter how important she is, reassured her of her love and even praised Ciara for handling what's been thrown at her. Ciara's immediate response of throwing herself in her mothers arms wishing aloud she had her mothers strength at fighting back was perfect. It just made those scenes all the more heart wrenching. I also thought having Hope coming home to find all the teens in the living room knowing she's walked in on something major a great moment to add in the episode. so much done so right today!

Belle and Philip had great material today too! I loved their meaty conversation. It wasn't fluff. It gave me a real look into both frames of mind and I like the writers took the time to give that. I thought both actors delivered. Belle and Philip have an interesting history, lots of complexity right there so I'm invested in seeing where this goes especially in the next few months.

Victor!!! Back with his knife! Whoa! It's all good as far as I'm concerned. Victor is no cuddly grandpa peeling potatoes in the kitchen. He's ruthless and should be shown as such. It doesn't surprise me at all that he let his brother rot in prison for seducing his fiancé. Very Victor. I'm excited the drama increased ten fold with that scene today. It needed a kick in the pants. Balls in your court Deimos.

I'm not a fan of Caroline's visions.

Lol at Shawn and Rafe racing through the HTS and that's it from them. I'd really like to see the two guys sharing more scenes together. I do think it was a good quick scene to show Chase carefully avoiding the police.

Theo! Ciara's champion! Great scene against Chase. Loved how he also wasn't going back to school til he found out a way to help Ciara.

Thumbs up for this Friday episode!
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Mar 4 2016, 01:52 PM
That scene of Victor's guard pinning Deimos, whispering in his ear, and then Victor ripping Deimos' shirt open was... Odd.
Reminded me of a similar scene with Xander.
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lysie


Was today really bad or something?
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Ocean
Mar 4 2016, 03:11 PM
Off the topics . Hi everyone, I was coming home for lunch to do as usual recap for the show and I fell so hard on the ice I hurt my left arm badly and I had to go to see a doctor for X-ray. I will watch the show later on and you guys have a wonderful weekend. Be safe and happy.
So sorry to hear you hurt yourself. Hope you feel better soon.
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What is with this show and woman going off of cliffs?
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Thank you JCP.

So the only real surprise is Victor carving on Deimos.

Why do I have the feeling that Deimos paid someone else to do his prison sentence? What if he took up with the Winterthorn people and work quietly with them. He could still want revenge on Victor for setting him up.

Victor carving on Deimos reminds me of the time Orpheus goons were going to cut Steve's tatoo off his chest, not seen, just talked about, and ole Vic was heavily involved with Orpheus at the time.
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lysie
Mar 4 2016, 07:53 PM
Was today really bad or something?
Because there were only 6 pages of posts, you mean? Hard to say why people don't post on any particular day. IMO, this was the best episode of the week...by far.
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Victor is as bad as Stefano but thats OK with people in Salem..and those women not batting an eye after he confessed his crimes against Deimos?? I hope Deimos takes his ass out along with some of the hypocrites in town.
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Restless84
Mar 4 2016, 06:45 PM
I enjoyed the teens the most today. Loved the Claire and Ciara scenes. Vivian is doing a great job and ORK continues to be good.
I agree. Vivian is very good at "non-verbal" acting. It's her strength.
I also like JMcC
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Yeah, Victor - he definitely deserved to spend 30 years in prison for "seducing" your fiance. She wasn't underage, was she? I don't exactly get the word "seduce" if you're an adult, I mean you can't be seduced if you don't want to be.
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lysie
Mar 4 2016, 07:53 PM
Was today really bad or something?


I thought today was very good. I enjoyed it.
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There was some depth in today's scenes. All of it came across very natural.
Edited by thepadange, Mar 4 2016, 09:21 PM.
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bygnedys
Mar 4 2016, 08:19 PM
Victor carving on Deimos reminds me of the time Orpheus goons were going to cut Steve's tatoo off his chest, not seen, just talked about, and ole Vic was heavily involved with Orpheus at the time.
I had a similar thought when I read the recaps today. Between that and Stefano trying to cut off Rafe's penis, the old villain guard seems quite fond of knives. Haha.
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It would be nice if Claire called Hope "Grandma" or something, but can we also get a John and Claire scene ??? At least Marlena was in the same room with her for a millisecond. They live in the same house for god's sake.
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