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Spoilers for the Week of March 14th
Topic Started: Mar 4 2016, 08:14 PM (49,832 Views)
Hugo


Manny
Mar 6 2016, 03:58 PM
Hugo
Mar 6 2016, 03:53 PM
Manny
Mar 6 2016, 02:58 PM
Haven't Lucas and Adrianne broken up last year? And then they both vanished from the screens?

Now they are discussing their future?! Why? And most importantly, who cares?!
Adrienne broke up with Lucas and got back together with Justin in September.
Then she broke up with Justin in October and got back together with Lucas soon after.
I remember all of it happening except Lucas and Adrianne getting back together. Was that actually shown on screen?
She was there for him after Will's death, I think they were a couple again when they dressed as Santa and Mrs. Claus, I remember they were kissing... or did I imagine that?
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Hugo
Mar 6 2016, 04:02 PM
Manny
Mar 6 2016, 03:58 PM
Hugo
Mar 6 2016, 03:53 PM

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I remember all of it happening except Lucas and Adrianne getting back together. Was that actually shown on screen?
She was there for him after Will's death, I think they were a couple again when they dressed as Santa and Mrs. Claus, I remember they were kissing... or did I imagine that?
You are right, but I think the actual reconciliation between the two never happened on screen.

Anyways, the power struggle between the writers, as Lysie said, is just horrible. And I wouldn't even blame the writers, but the producers who allowed this to happen for months and months.
Edited by Manny, Mar 6 2016, 04:09 PM.
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It's just a gut feeling but I think Adrienne's breast cancer gene story was Higley's idea blocked by the network as not interesting enough.
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Mar 6 2016, 04:08 PM
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She was there for him after Will's death, I think they were a couple again when they dressed as Santa and Mrs. Claus, I remember they were kissing... or did I imagine that?
You are right, but I think the actual reconciliation between the two never happened on screen.
Yeah... I took that kiss as confirmation they were back together. I don't think we really saw the reconciliation either.

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Mar 6 2016, 04:09 PM
It's just a gut feeling but I think Adrienne's breast cancer gene story was Higley's idea blocked by the network as not interesting enough.
I'm not sure if it was about it being interesting or about it being overkill. Personally, I think it was a bad idea. If they want to do that story with her, they need Sonny in town, they need to establish her other children, and they need to put some more focus on her relationships with other people in town. Her connections haven't gotten enough focus for her to have a meaningful story like that, IMO.
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Mar 6 2016, 04:13 PM
thepadange
Mar 6 2016, 04:09 PM
It's just a gut feeling but I think Adrienne's breast cancer gene story was Higley's idea blocked by the network as not interesting enough.
I'm not sure if it was about it being interesting or about it being overkill. Personally, I think it was a bad idea. If they want to do that story with her, they need Sonny in town, they need to establish her other children, and they need to put some more focus on her relationships with other people in town. Her connections haven't gotten enough focus for her to have a meaningful story like that, IMO.
They also need to do their research. It was inexplicable that Steve, Abby, and J.J. didn't also get tested. Just another notch of embarrassment to this nothing story.
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Josephinejms
Mar 6 2016, 03:03 PM
Lovejm
Mar 6 2016, 02:47 PM
DiMera87
Mar 6 2016, 02:46 PM
Friday's episode seems insanely jam packed. There doesn't seem like there's going to be any break in action. I hope that turns out to be a good thing.
Between the wedding and potentially the first look at jigsaw to end Friday's show, I can't wait.
I wish John's dad was ACTUALLY Jigsaw himself. Now THAT would be an interesting twist.
Somehow I feel like maybe it won't be that much off. Though truth be told, I've never actually seen... Saw, was it? I think he's an evil mothereffer, and I feel like they wouldn't have actually done a real search (ie: "reach out to big names") if they didn't have some intention for it to be big.

I want him to be a shitty ass person so that the story becomes that all John ever really needed was Marlena. His mother birthed him from her nether-regions, but his dad (if my scenario from September comes true) and Stefano took his life. Emotionally and mentally. And then Marlena gave him a life again. And all the searches for his past were useless, he already had everything he needed.
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Mar 6 2016, 04:16 PM
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Mar 6 2016, 04:13 PM
thepadange
Mar 6 2016, 04:09 PM
It's just a gut feeling but I think Adrienne's breast cancer gene story was Higley's idea blocked by the network as not interesting enough.
I'm not sure if it was about it being interesting or about it being overkill. Personally, I think it was a bad idea. If they want to do that story with her, they need Sonny in town, they need to establish her other children, and they need to put some more focus on her relationships with other people in town. Her connections haven't gotten enough focus for her to have a meaningful story like that, IMO.
They also need to do their research. It was inexplicable that Steve, Abby, and J.J. didn't also get tested. Just another notch of embarrassment to this nothing story.
And another thing...the whole thing started because apparently Jo was sick. And none of them really cared? Even Adrienne was too busy worrying she might have the gene (but not even be sick yet) to worry about her actually sick mother.
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Mar 6 2016, 04:17 PM
Josephinejms
Mar 6 2016, 03:03 PM
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Mar 6 2016, 02:47 PM

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I wish John's dad was ACTUALLY Jigsaw himself. Now THAT would be an interesting twist.
Somehow I feel like maybe it won't be that much off. Though truth be told, I've never actually seen... Saw, was it? I think he's an evil mothereffer, and I feel like they wouldn't have actually done a real search (ie: "reach out to big names") if they didn't have some intention for it to be big.

I want him to be a shitty ass person so that the story becomes that all John ever really needed was Marlena. His mother birthed him from her nether-regions, but his dad (if my scenario from September comes true) and Stefano took his life. Emotionally and mentally. And then Marlena gave him a life again. And all the searches for his past were useless, he already had everything he needed.
Same. And the first real conversation they have after all this is over and the danger has passed should be magic
Edited by Lovejm, Mar 6 2016, 04:20 PM.
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Mar 6 2016, 11:44 AM
No, Paul is a good fit for this storyline and it's about time they utilize him if they aren't going to fire him. Brady is worthless and I'm so happy that he seems to have no role in this storyline. There's about 80 reasons why he doesn't fit into this story and his bum heart is somewhere at the top.
Brady has been worthless since 2000, through every regime, so I'm fine with his heart-operated self being nowhere to be seen for this, honestly. I can pretend he does care after all. However, this story would be a nice chance to start Brady on the road to "recovery". As a character I mean. Since EM won that lame Emmy, he's probably not being recast anytime soon, so at least make him likable. And put him with his mother. The only woman he has chemistry with seems to be DH. And boy is that just SAD, since that's the only woman they don't put him in scenes with.

But yeah, Brady shouldn't be involved in the action anyway, as Theresa pointed out and somehow not one of the other three seemed to notice she was the only one thinking logically. Which is just... weird.
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Mar 6 2016, 04:17 PM
Josephinejms
Mar 6 2016, 03:03 PM
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Mar 6 2016, 02:47 PM

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I wish John's dad was ACTUALLY Jigsaw himself. Now THAT would be an interesting twist.
Somehow I feel like maybe it won't be that much off. Though truth be told, I've never actually seen... Saw, was it? I think he's an evil mothereffer, and I feel like they wouldn't have actually done a real search (ie: "reach out to big names") if they didn't have some intention for it to be big.

I want him to be a shitty ass person so that the story becomes that all John ever really needed was Marlena. His mother birthed him from her nether-regions, but his dad (if my scenario from September comes true) and Stefano took his life. Emotionally and mentally. And then Marlena gave him a life again. And all the searches for his past were useless, he already had everything he needed.
I wonder if they will bother to explain the reason, all these years, that Stefano would never tell John about his past. Though I think it got so convoluted over the years with different writers, it's probably impossible. I think Tom Langan was the one that made it impossible. He ruined it all when he tried to say John and PG stole art work for Stefano, rewriting the whole priest thing.
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Mar 6 2016, 02:58 PM
Haven't Lucas and Adrianne broken up last year? And then they both vanished from the screens?

Now they are discussing their future?! Why? And most importantly, who cares?!
Exactly - which is not what I should be feeling when I really like and want to see both of these characters.

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There were some bright spots during MarDar's tenure but Brady's relationship with John and Marlena has been awful since Eric Martsolf got the role. He has been so dismissive of them, I just don't see any bond when they are on screen together. When Brady was played by Kyle Lowder, he was already Victor's boy but he still had some closeness with J&M.
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lysie
Mar 6 2016, 04:00 PM
Justin/Adrienne/Lucas is the perfect example of a power struggle. A weird one. Because nothing went particularly well for them during either writer's time of power.

That's why I want Higley out. This kind of stuff seems to be way more rampant when she's around. It happens other times too, but it doesn't usually seem to be at this level. It usually is more between Sony/NBC/Corday Productions. Or at least that's usually how it seems. But between a writing team? It's even messier.
I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but I missed the fallout from JG leaving. Is Higley there, actively writing on her post-it notes? Or is she still on her leave of absence, and Quan is there on his own?
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Mar 6 2016, 04:21 PM
DiMera87
Mar 6 2016, 11:44 AM
No, Paul is a good fit for this storyline and it's about time they utilize him if they aren't going to fire him. Brady is worthless and I'm so happy that he seems to have no role in this storyline. There's about 80 reasons why he doesn't fit into this story and his bum heart is somewhere at the top.
Brady has been worthless since 2000, through every regime, so I'm fine with his heart-operated self being nowhere to be seen for this, honestly. I can pretend he does care after all. However, this story would be a nice chance to start Brady on the road to "recovery". As a character I mean. Since EM won that lame Emmy, he's probably not being recast anytime soon, so at least make him likable. And put him with his mother. The only woman he has chemistry with seems to be DH. And boy is that just SAD, since that's the only woman they don't put him in scenes with.

But yeah, Brady shouldn't be involved in the action anyway, as Theresa pointed out and somehow not one of the other three seemed to notice she was the only one thinking logically. Which is just... weird.
He wouldn't have to be "in the action" to be in the story though. He could be swept up in it, which is probably how Paul ends up in it. Then, if Brady's swept up in it, his having heart issues would make the drama heightened. So, I don't think his heart has any thing to do with why he should be kept out of this.

I had high hopes that once Tomsell left, that Brady would be fixed and hopefully made into the Brady I always wished he would be. The Brady that loved and cherished Marlena as his mother, the way little boy Brady did. He's the antithesis of that now, and sadly it continues under Griffith and Higley.
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Mar 6 2016, 04:31 PM
There were some bright spots during MarDar's tenure but Brady's relationship with John and Marlena has been awful since Eric Martsolf got the role. He has been so dismissive of them, I just don't see any bond when they are on screen together. When Brady was played by Kyle Lowder, he was already Victor's boy but he still had some closeness with J&M.

And this is why actors shouldn't talk. EM said at DOD's that Brady got closer with them. Unless that happens between now and May he must have been hallucinating
It's all so weird because Brady barely saw Victor until KL took cover the role. And then Brady hated Marlena. But they fixed that and things got better for while. Oddly enough, Higley did an ok job with Brady Marlena when EM first took the role and John was all messed up. The two year absence though is something that the Brady J&M relationship never recovered from.

They had them appear close for about an hour solely for plot purposes when Kristen got back to town and Brady was trying to protect Marlena.

And this is why actors shouldn't talk. EM said at DOD they got closer. Unless that happened between now and May, he must have been hallucinating
Edited by Lovejm, Mar 6 2016, 04:39 PM.
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Hugo
Mar 6 2016, 04:31 PM
There were some bright spots during MarDar's tenure but Brady's relationship with John and Marlena has been awful since Eric Martsolf got the role. He has been so dismissive of them, I just don't see any bond when they are on screen together. When Brady was played by Kyle Lowder, he was already Victor's boy but he still had some closeness with J&M.
It has moment where it's good. The problem is that it's like one episode at a time. I don't agree that he was "Victor's boy" back then, though. I think, especially in the middle of KL's time on the show, they did a decent job of balancing it. But I HATE how they now seem to write under the assumption that Victor helped raise him. I don't even get the point. Victor doesn't need Brady to fit in on the canvas. When they brought John back in 2011, I HATED how it was written like John was horrible and judgmental for not being happy that Brady had done some pretty bad things. How dare John not pat him on the head for that.
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Mar 6 2016, 04:19 PM
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Mar 6 2016, 04:17 PM
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Somehow I feel like maybe it won't be that much off. Though truth be told, I've never actually seen... Saw, was it? I think he's an evil mothereffer, and I feel like they wouldn't have actually done a real search (ie: "reach out to big names") if they didn't have some intention for it to be big.

I want him to be a shitty ass person so that the story becomes that all John ever really needed was Marlena. His mother birthed him from her nether-regions, but his dad (if my scenario from September comes true) and Stefano took his life. Emotionally and mentally. And then Marlena gave him a life again. And all the searches for his past were useless, he already had everything he needed.
Same. And the first real conversation they have after all this is over and the danger has passed should be magic
Not just the relief they both have after a nearly 30 year search for the truth, but selfishly - I need some wedding vows ON SCREEN once this is all said & done, too. Deidre answered that People magazine question about when we're gonna get a J&M wedding/honeymoon back in October...with the tape schedule, that should be fairly soon.

Cut to 1:55

http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20963292,00.html?xid=socialflow_twitter_peoplemag

pardon me while I fangirl all over again!!
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Mar 6 2016, 04:36 PM
lysie
Mar 6 2016, 04:00 PM
Justin/Adrienne/Lucas is the perfect example of a power struggle. A weird one. Because nothing went particularly well for them during either writer's time of power.

That's why I want Higley out. This kind of stuff seems to be way more rampant when she's around. It happens other times too, but it doesn't usually seem to be at this level. It usually is more between Sony/NBC/Corday Productions. Or at least that's usually how it seems. But between a writing team? It's even messier.
I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but I missed the fallout from JG leaving. Is Higley there, actively writing on her post-it notes? Or is she still on her leave of absence, and Quan is there on his own?
She's apparently back, but how involved she is isn't clear yet. She's never active though. ;)
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Mar 6 2016, 04:40 PM
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Mar 6 2016, 04:19 PM
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Same. And the first real conversation they have after all this is over and the danger has passed should be magic
Not just the relief they both have after a nearly 30 year search for the truth, but selfishly - I need some wedding vows ON SCREEN once this is all said & done, too. Deidre answered that People magazine question about when we're gonna get a J&M wedding/honeymoon back in October...with the tape schedule, that should be fairly soon.

Cut to 1:55

http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20963292,00.html?xid=socialflow_twitter_peoplemag

pardon me while I fangirl all over again!!
Well yea they need to resolve the one month thing too. No idea why they ever put a time frame on it.
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