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Thursday, March 10th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Mar 9 2016, 06:48 PM (13,212 Views)
Lovejm


So they're going to drink the drug because it's a condition to free Marlena and Ari. And it's kind of smart because it'll explain how the capture happens fairly easily by incapacitating them first. And they really didn't have much choice but to drink it. Unless they fake it somehow
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Mar 10 2016, 01:49 PM
Lovejm
Mar 10 2016, 01:49 PM
I think Claire referred to Hope as Ciara's mom again. They are really bad about that grandparent relationship.
It really bugs me.
Today it looked as if they weren't even family.
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J&M and Family Fanatic!

I really liked Phelle in 07-08 but this version just isn't doing it for me.
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Mar 10 2016, 01:54 PM
JTClassicSoaps
Mar 10 2016, 01:49 PM
Lovejm
Mar 10 2016, 01:49 PM
I think Claire referred to Hope as Ciara's mom again. They are really bad about that grandparent relationship.
It really bugs me.
Today it looked as if they weren't even family.
If I had just started watching the show in the last few months I would be shocked to find out that Joey/Ciara were first cousins and that Hope was Claire's grandmother.
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Enjoying this episode so far because of the stories today. No Bummer and I'm halfway through with NO mentions of Daniel. It's a good day.
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Mar 10 2016, 01:47 PM
On the news recently, there was an item that said something about a man being up on charges of rape first degree and first degree burglary. I didn't know there were different degrees of rape charges.
There are various degrees of almost all felony criminal charges (murder, robbery, rape, assault, etc.). Generally, the level of violence/force used, and/or the amount of premeditation differentiates the charges.

In regards to rape, someone who breaks into a house (or a car) and rapes the person inside will likely face a first degree charge, while someone who slips a roofie into a drink and rapes the person who lacks the ability to consent will face a lesser degree. Just as somebody who plans and then carries out a murder (first degree) will face a different charge than the person who murders somebody in the heat of passion (second degree).
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HOLY SMACKS! GREAT episode today! The Philip & Belle scenes were needed if for nothing else than to catch your breath from the rest of the show!! WOW!!!!!
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Thank you JCP.

I wonder if Joey knows that his mom was also raped. Did they shelter him as a child and never told him?

Finally some action, I can't stand it when the characters just stand around and talk. It is John and Marlena's story, stop making it so much about the Hernandez clan.
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bygnedys
Mar 10 2016, 01:47 PM
On the news recently, there was an item that said something about a man being up on charges of rape first degree and first degree burglary. I didn't know there were different degrees of rape charges.

The state laws showing the degrees are on the RAINN website here:
https://apps.rainn.org/policy-app/index2.cfm
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bygnedys
Mar 10 2016, 02:08 PM
I wonder if Joey knows that his mom was also raped. Did they shelter him as a child and never told him?

Finally some action, I can't stand it when the characters just stand around and talk. It is John and Marlena's story, stop making it so much about the Hernandez clan.
But Ari is a Hernandez.....
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bygnedys
Mar 10 2016, 02:08 PM
I wonder if Joey knows that his mom was also raped. Did they shelter him as a child and never told him?

Finally some action, I can't stand it when the characters just stand around and talk. It is John and Marlena's story, stop making it so much about the Hernandez clan.
It can be about both. Since Ari is involved. Theres a way to do umbrella stories well. Next week is really heavy with the John backstory stuff.

Oh and I'd guess Joey doesn't know
Edited by Lovejm, Mar 10 2016, 02:11 PM.
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Was I suppose to be scared for Philip? Was I suppose to think that cop was a bad guy? Phil and the cop seemed to know each other already so why were they talking about the death like they never talked about it before or like it just happened? So now both Belle and Phil have ill-gotten money. Are they the Bonnie and Clyde of Salem?
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I like this Ciara and Hope scenes back at the house and glad they mentioned she got checked and possible counseling.

Now I just need Ciara to tell Hope to tell Jennifer to get rid of that couch.

I can't help but think Team Ciara Squad was so cute when they went to check on Ciara.
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esp13
Mar 10 2016, 02:00 PM
In regards to rape, someone who breaks into a house (or a car) and rapes the person inside will likely face a first degree charge, while someone who slips a roofie into a drink and rapes the person who lacks the ability to consent will face a lesser degree. Just as somebody who plans and then carries out a murder (first degree) will face a different charge than the person who murders somebody in the heat of passion (second degree).

I was reading the list of charges per state on the RAINN site, and my impression is that rape degrees aren't decided by whether it's premeditated or spontaneous. My impression was that it's about the level of physical violence included with the rape ... and the age or mental awareness of the victim. .. and if there is anything like a prison guard or doctor breaking a trusted relationship of care.
Edited by nananana7, Mar 10 2016, 02:16 PM.
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Mar 10 2016, 12:05 PM
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Mar 10 2016, 11:54 AM
The teens left Ciara to talk to Chase. After Ciara was done yelling at Chase, she called Hope to meet her and Chase at the warehouse. When Hope got there, Ciara told her what happened. Hope called for backup. Chase was arrested when 2 other cops arrived.
Honestly, I was expecting a lot more from the Hope reveal. Bummer.
Very disappointing. I thought there would be more to the Chase/teens scene than that. I cannot believe those kids left CIARA all alone with him like that.
Edited by kay, Mar 10 2016, 03:02 PM.
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nikemi
Mar 10 2016, 12:26 PM
What, Abby doesn't even get a bridal shower? The pre wedding activities should have started on today's show, we should have at least got a bridal shower.
The bridal shower is usually a month before the wedding. :shrug:
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I was pleasantly surprised by the teen story. It wasn't as over the top as I was afraid it would be. VJ was good in that scene with Hope back at the Horton house. She had this moment where she looked like she was really going to break down. I don't especially like the scenes where she's yelling or being upset and raising her voice because she tends to add a shakiness to her voice to make herself sound upset. I think AS used to do that too.

The actors that play Claire and Joey don't impress me at all. The guy that plays Theo is okay but I don't feel like he is autistic. His reactions to things are about as normal as the average kid.
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kay
Mar 10 2016, 02:17 PM
cord08
Mar 10 2016, 12:05 PM
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Mar 10 2016, 11:54 AM
The teens left Ciara to talk to Chase. After Ciara was done yelling at Chase, she called Hope to meet her and Chase at the warehouse. When Hope got there, Ciara told her what happened. Hope called for backup. Chase was arrested when 2 other cops arrived.
Honestly, I was expecting a lot more from the Hope reveal. Bummer.
Very disappointing fallout. I thought there would be more to that story than that. Typical for this show I guess.
It continues tomorrow.

Hope angrily grills Chase about what he did to her daughter.


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kay
Mar 10 2016, 02:17 PM
cord08
Mar 10 2016, 12:05 PM
Rubble
Mar 10 2016, 11:54 AM
The teens left Ciara to talk to Chase. After Ciara was done yelling at Chase, she called Hope to meet her and Chase at the warehouse. When Hope got there, Ciara told her what happened. Hope called for backup. Chase was arrested when 2 other cops arrived.
Honestly, I was expecting a lot more from the Hope reveal. Bummer.
Very disappointing fallout. I thought there would be more to that story than that. Typical for this show I guess.
I'm pretty positive it's not over.
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cord08
Mar 10 2016, 01:12 PM
esp13
Mar 10 2016, 01:06 PM
cord08
Mar 10 2016, 12:53 PM

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I'm not sure that actually seeing the hospital scenes is a necessary beat. The important beat is that she needed to get examined and tested, not the scenes themselves - IMO. The fact that she and Hope talk about that, and about the fact she'll have to be re-tested is making sure that beat is covered.

It's not that I'm opposed to a good scene between Kayla and Ciara about that, it's just that I don't think it's a necessary beat to play.
I disagree. Considering how so many victims don't get checked out or tested, I think it's important to show if you want to do the story with some responsibility. Especially if you're partnering with RAINN for this. A few throwaway lines is pretty weak storytelling, IMO.
I agree that although the hospital scenes weren't necessary, it was certainly a missed opportunity. My position on the matter is daytime affords you the luxury of time to thoroughly explore a sensitive and topical issue such as rape, especially involving teenagers. Can you imagine how powerful it would have been for Hope and Ciara to have gone to Kayla for the examination. So while the examination being mentioned in dialogue covers that aspect, I was disappointed in an actual hospital scene not being shown.
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