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Spoilers for the Week of March 21st
Topic Started: Mar 11 2016, 09:48 PM (34,439 Views)
cord08
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bygnedys
Mar 16 2016, 10:43 AM
I think Ken thinks this is the last renewal. He doesn't care whether anyone likes his writers or not. That is why Dena will be there till cancellation. He also doesn't care whether anyone likes the stories. ugh.

He thinks he has already given the fans what he thinks they deserve, and that was the 50 th celebration, which I thought was a bust. JMO.
Nah, I think Ken's just blind to Dena's lack of ability. Days is part of his business; it makes him money. I highly doubt he'd just actively let it tank considering there is supposedly a another year option on the table.
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daysyrghfan
Mar 16 2016, 10:56 AM
countess_cutlass
Mar 16 2016, 09:54 AM
Re: Thrady and Summer and the pacing stuff...

Sometimes, I wonder: has anyone, lately, on the writing or production staff been looking at fan feedback? Like, look at the message boards or the tweets or whatever? I know it's hard with their schedule, and I'm not saying that all fan feedback is valid or doable or even right. BUT. Days has been terrible at maintaining rootable, popular characters, storylines and couplings.
The thing is not all fans are online or on message boards or tweet. What's hated at one place could be liked somewhere else.
Fair enough. Though, I think you can build a general consensus of whether a storyline, character or couple is popular if you look at the online chatter from a variety of sources.
Edited by countess_cutlass, Mar 18 2016, 07:06 AM.
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countess_cutlass
Mar 16 2016, 11:28 AM
daysyrghfan
Mar 16 2016, 10:56 AM
countess_cutlass
Mar 16 2016, 09:54 AM
Re: Thrady and Summer and the pacing stuff...

Sometimes, I wonder: has anyone, lately, on the writing or production staff been looking at fan feedback? Like, look at the message boards or the tweets or whatever? I know it's hard with their schedule, and I'm not saying that all fan feedback is valid or doable or even right. BUT. Days has been terrible at maintaining rootable, popular characters, storylines and couplings.
The thing is not all fans are online or on message boards or tweet. What's hated at one place could be liked somewhere else.
Fair enough. Though, I think you can build a general consensus of whether a storyline, character or couple is popular if you look at the online chatter from a variety of sources. If the response is overwhelmingly negative from a variety of sources, I think you might be able to infer that something isn't working for a decent segment of your fanbase.
For all the good it did I think Y&R once did an online survey. Days could do something like that.
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countess_cutlass
Mar 16 2016, 11:28 AM
daysyrghfan
Mar 16 2016, 10:56 AM
countess_cutlass
Mar 16 2016, 09:54 AM
Re: Thrady and Summer and the pacing stuff...

Sometimes, I wonder: has anyone, lately, on the writing or production staff been looking at fan feedback? Like, look at the message boards or the tweets or whatever? I know it's hard with their schedule, and I'm not saying that all fan feedback is valid or doable or even right. BUT. Days has been terrible at maintaining rootable, popular characters, storylines and couplings.
The thing is not all fans are online or on message boards or tweet. What's hated at one place could be liked somewhere else.
Fair enough. Though, I think you can build a general consensus of whether a storyline, character or couple is popular if you look at the online chatter from a variety of sources. If the response is overwhelmingly negative from a variety of sources, I think you might be able to infer that something isn't working for a decent segment of your fanbase.
Do they still do focus groups? Or is it impossible because of how far ahead they are?
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daysyrghfan
Mar 16 2016, 11:43 AM
countess_cutlass
Mar 16 2016, 11:28 AM
daysyrghfan
Mar 16 2016, 10:56 AM

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Fair enough. Though, I think you can build a general consensus of whether a storyline, character or couple is popular if you look at the online chatter from a variety of sources. If the response is overwhelmingly negative from a variety of sources, I think you might be able to infer that something isn't working for a decent segment of your fanbase.
For all the good it did I think Y&R once did an online survey. Days could do something like that.
Yeah, it was CBS (in cooperation with the Nielsen company). That was a decent questionnaire they developed.
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thepadange
Mar 16 2016, 11:47 AM
daysyrghfan
Mar 16 2016, 11:43 AM
For all the good it did I think Y&R once did an online survey. Days could do something like that.
Yeah, it was CBS (in cooperation with the Nielsen company). That was a decent questionnaire they developed.
There was a Y&R survey last year and ... within a couple of months, changes to the storyline/character directions happened.
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Mar 16 2016, 04:57 AM
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Mar 15 2016, 09:56 PM
So Belle is going to learn what is going on with her dad but Brady for some reason hasn't been told or just doesn't care??

I don't get it? I would think that they would have told the immediate family, Lucas, Eric, Brady and Belle when this all started with Marlena and Ari being kidnapped.
They separated the stories too much. Now characters don't know what is happening with their family members. Maybe it's because different writers write for different characters (it looks like John's story was written by BM).
Really? That's interesting and kind of makes sense.
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thepadange
Mar 16 2016, 11:45 AM
countess_cutlass
Mar 16 2016, 11:28 AM
daysyrghfan
Mar 16 2016, 10:56 AM

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Fair enough. Though, I think you can build a general consensus of whether a storyline, character or couple is popular if you look at the online chatter from a variety of sources. If the response is overwhelmingly negative from a variety of sources, I think you might be able to infer that something isn't working for a decent segment of your fanbase.
Do they still do focus groups? Or is it impossible because of how far ahead they are?
I believe they do. I would like to know what they show these focus groups. The few things I've heard about what's tested well kind of blow my mind. But like...what do they see? And I think focus groups aren't made up of Days fans which means they're lacking 50 years of context.

Days used to do that email survey. i think they stopped when we all found out about it, and people started spamming it. But none of that would really do any good for stuff 6 months out.
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I know they're leaving a lot of the John plot out of the spoilers, but I'm kind of confused as to how/when this rescue goes down.

It sounds like the 'rescue team' is still plotting things out on Monday (Belle is worried about Marlena; Steve is with Kayla; Hope is with Ciara), and then they find them on Tuesday? That'd make sense with the spoilers and Bell's last airdate. But then on Wednesday, it sounds like S/K are back to the Ava plot or something. It's just odd to me. I guess they're either taking a teleport or John's not that far away.

Also, how many times have S/K had the same "connect" spoiler? I can only take that to mean that they pretty much make up before he goes to save John. LOL.
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countess_cutlass
Mar 16 2016, 09:54 AM
Re: Thrady and Summer and the pacing stuff...

Sometimes, I wonder: has anyone, lately, on the writing or production staff been looking at fan feedback? Like, look at the message boards or the tweets or whatever? I know it's hard with their schedule, and I'm not saying that all fan feedback is valid or doable or even right. BUT. Days has been terrible at maintaining rootable, popular characters, storylines and couplings.
It wouldn't matter much if they did, they film too far in advance to fix anything or change direction.
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aph1976
Mar 16 2016, 10:15 AM
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Mar 15 2016, 09:56 PM
So Belle is going to learn what is going on with her dad but Brady for some reason hasn't been told or just doesn't care??

I don't get it? I would think that they would have told the immediate family, Lucas, Eric, Brady and Belle when this all started with Marlena and Ari being kidnapped.
With Brady's heart transplant, maybe no one wants to give him unnecessary stress right now.Plus the less people who knew about Marlena and Ari been kidnapped the safer they would have been because the more people who knew the more danger Marlena and Ari could have been.
Brady's his SON and I think he can keep a secret, he's an adult. He lives with Theresa so he can deal with stress.
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cord08
Mar 16 2016, 02:44 PM
I know they're leaving a lot of the John plot out of the spoilers, but I'm kind of confused as to how/when this rescue goes down.

It sounds like the 'rescue team' is still plotting things out on Monday (Belle is worried about Marlena; Steve is with Kayla; Hope is with Ciara), and then they find them on Tuesday? That'd make sense with the spoilers and Bell's last airdate. But then on Wednesday, it sounds like S/K are back to the Ava plot or something. It's just odd to me. I guess they're either taking a teleport or John's not that far away.

Also, how many times have S/K had the same "connect" spoiler? I can only take that to mean that they pretty much make up before he goes to save John. LOL.
I think Steve calls Kayla and that's how they connect. She may not know he left after how they end today's show with them taking off. Hope isnt going so it fits she's home.

But I agree they're definitely leaving a lot out about the rescue. Maybe we'll get a cool surprise
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bygnedys
Mar 16 2016, 10:43 AM
I think Ken thinks this is the last renewal. He doesn't care whether anyone likes his writers or not. That is why Dena will be there till cancellation. He also doesn't care whether anyone likes the stories. ugh.

He thinks he has already given the fans what he thinks they deserve, and that was the 50 th celebration, which I thought was a bust. JMO.
With Corday I think it's all about controlling the fans not pleasing them.
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Rosebud
Mar 16 2016, 02:49 PM
aph1976
Mar 16 2016, 10:15 AM
DCgirl
Mar 15 2016, 09:56 PM
So Belle is going to learn what is going on with her dad but Brady for some reason hasn't been told or just doesn't care??

I don't get it? I would think that they would have told the immediate family, Lucas, Eric, Brady and Belle when this all started with Marlena and Ari being kidnapped.
With Brady's heart transplant, maybe no one wants to give him unnecessary stress right now.Plus the less people who knew about Marlena and Ari been kidnapped the safer they would have been because the more people who knew the more danger Marlena and Ari could have been.
Brady's his SON and I think he can keep a secret, he's an adult. He lives with Theresa so he can deal with stress.
it's Mar's choice though, I think it's a stupid choice.
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Mar 16 2016, 02:37 PM
thepadange
Mar 16 2016, 11:47 AM
daysyrghfan
Mar 16 2016, 11:43 AM
For all the good it did I think Y&R once did an online survey. Days could do something like that.
Yeah, it was CBS (in cooperation with the Nielsen company). That was a decent questionnaire they developed.
There was a Y&R survey last year and ... within a couple of months, changes to the storyline/character directions happened.
Yes, it was the same CBS+Nielsen Y&R questionnaire I was talking about.
When did you notice the changes? (what month was it?)
Edited by thepadange, Mar 16 2016, 02:55 PM.
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Mar 16 2016, 02:52 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 02:49 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 10:15 AM

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Brady's his SON and I think he can keep a secret, he's an adult. He lives with Theresa so he can deal with stress.
it's Mar's choice though, I think it's a stupid choice.
Marlena doesn't know Brady's been running around with summer though. And I think it's cautious of her to want to protect Brady. Ironically, that's what mothers do. Imagine how awful it would be for her and John if she told Brady and something happened?
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Mar 16 2016, 11:47 AM
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Mar 16 2016, 11:43 AM
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Mar 16 2016, 11:28 AM

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For all the good it did I think Y&R once did an online survey. Days could do something like that.
Yeah, it was CBS (in cooperation with the Nielsen company). That was a decent questionnaire they developed.
Years ago Days did something similar. They'd pick fans who volunteered and send out email surveys. You'd click on a link and it would take you to a survey.
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Mar 16 2016, 02:52 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 02:49 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 10:15 AM

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Brady's his SON and I think he can keep a secret, he's an adult. He lives with Theresa so he can deal with stress.
it's Mar's choice though, I think it's a stupid choice.
the writers are just using Marlena to to keep Brady in his bubble. It's lazy writing.
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Lovejm
Mar 16 2016, 02:57 PM
crookedhalo
Mar 16 2016, 02:52 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 02:49 PM

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it's Mar's choice though, I think it's a stupid choice.
Marlena doesn't know Brady's been running around with summer though. And I think it's cautious of her to want to protect Brady. Ironically, that's what mothers do. Imagine how awful it would be for her and John if she told Brady and something happened?
the problem is eventually he will find out and if something happen to his dad he would be more upset. Then of course, there's granddad, they're working on a limited amount of people calling Brady could get Victor's guys involved and it would cut down the search time. And of course not calling the kids, helps her not to realize that one of his children is missing. And I wasn't serious about it being HER choice, it's not maybe Belle, but all the children are grown they have the right to know.
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Mar 16 2016, 02:51 PM
bygnedys
Mar 16 2016, 10:43 AM
I think Ken thinks this is the last renewal. He doesn't care whether anyone likes his writers or not. That is why Dena will be there till cancellation. He also doesn't care whether anyone likes the stories. ugh.

He thinks he has already given the fans what he thinks they deserve, and that was the 50 th celebration, which I thought was a bust. JMO.
With Corday I think it's all about controlling the fans not pleasing them.
I think, it's about ratings. They only care about these numbers because they mean renewal or cancellation. They don't care why people watch and whether they like the show or not.
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