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Spoilers for the Week of March 21st
Topic Started: Mar 11 2016, 09:48 PM (34,436 Views)
AngelaP
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Re:Hope. The murder bothers me on no level because she was definitely in very declined capacity in terms of mental health. And because Stefano had it coming. The cover-up does bother me but meh, not really bothered. I'd rather her be working with John/Steve rather than as a cop due to it but meh, not really bothered.
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Rosebud
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KweenBoda
Mar 17 2016, 09:02 AM
I just wonder if it's ever going to come out that Hope is a murderer? Or is that going to be swept under the rug? I cannot stand to look at her anymore.
I think it was already swept under the rug. The floor was swept, scrubbed and buffed clean.
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AngelaP
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Did Marlena get any time or lose her license for putting Stefano in that stroke-like state?
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Rosebud
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AngelaP
Mar 17 2016, 09:53 AM
Did Marlena get any time or lose her license for putting Stefano in that stroke-like state?
LOL, Stefano didn't press charges. He wasn't DEAD.
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AngelaP
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Doesn't mean a crime was not committed.
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Rosebud
Mar 17 2016, 10:04 AM
AngelaP
Mar 17 2016, 09:53 AM
Did Marlena get any time or lose her license for putting Stefano in that stroke-like state?
LOL, Stefano didn't press charges. He wasn't DEAD.
So injecting him with a paralyzing agent that kept him in a vegetable like state for months isn't a crime?
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lisawinnie
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why do people say voldy isnt that digest
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countess_cutlass
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Hope not taking any responsibility for her crime, and actively lying about it, was my thing with her character. Yeah, maybe it was a mental break, but she hid from it, even when she regained her "sanity" or whatever. When she realized what she'd done, she just lied about it. To each their own, but I could really care less for her right now.
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Hugo


I don't need Hope to be punished for killing Stefano but I would like to see her more conflicted by what she did. I saw that when she confessed to Roman but it almost seemed like she was putting on a show for him. But at this point, I don't think I would get what I want from the show so I will try to forget this story happened.
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lisawinnie
Mar 17 2016, 10:43 AM
why do people say voldy isnt that digest

This has been explained several times in the past few weeks.

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^ I've put the explanation behind spoiler tags so as not to take up space here.
Edited by nananana7, Mar 17 2016, 11:10 AM.
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nananana7
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I just got SID.
There are no new spoilers.
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Rosebud
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esp13
Mar 17 2016, 10:36 AM
Rosebud
Mar 17 2016, 10:04 AM
AngelaP
Mar 17 2016, 09:53 AM
Did Marlena get any time or lose her license for putting Stefano in that stroke-like state?
LOL, Stefano didn't press charges. He wasn't DEAD.
So injecting him with a paralyzing agent that kept him in a vegetable like state for months isn't a crime?
I never said that, LOL But I'm pretty sure that unless Stefano reported it as a crime, or someone else reported the crime, there isn't going to be a case filed by the D.A. Marlena and Stefano handled it their own way. Plus, Marlena has repeatedly said she was wrong and she regretted it. She told Stefano that. Hope didn't give Stefano a chance to do or say anything. I could go on, but I'll leave it there.

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countess_cutlass
Mar 17 2016, 10:50 AM
Hope not taking any responsibility for her crime, and actively lying about it, was my thing with her character. Yeah, maybe it was a mental break, but she hid from it, even when she regained her "sanity" or whatever. When she realized what she'd done, she just lied about it. To each their own, but I could really care less for her right now.
IDK, I pretty much understood why Hope was not conflicted throughout that cover-up (I actually would have been fine if they had played her even less conflicted than they did during that part); why she was in the mindset of not letting them take anything else from her family. She believed he had Bo kidnapped, had her daughter kidnapped, framed her for murder, plus every horrendous thing that he did to her and her loved ones over 30 years, all that on top of the way he was taunting her about Bo to his last breath.

She should be "conflicted" now ... now that she knows she may have killed him for the wrong reason. How conflicted? IDK. I'm getting enough (Roman, the celebration). As Hugo said though, I don't think they'll go as far as what I think would be in character for Hope once she realizes she really did kill him for the wrong reason. I'm okay with that. I do understand some are not. That's life.
Edited by AngelaP, Mar 17 2016, 12:19 PM.
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Rosebud
Mar 17 2016, 11:20 AM
esp13
Mar 17 2016, 10:36 AM
Rosebud
Mar 17 2016, 10:04 AM

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So injecting him with a paralyzing agent that kept him in a vegetable like state for months isn't a crime?
I never said that, LOL But I'm pretty sure that unless Stefano reported it as a crime, or someone else reported the crime, there isn't going to be a case filed by the D.A. Marlena and Stefano handled it their own way. Plus, Marlena has repeatedly said she was wrong and she regretted it. She told Stefano that. Hope didn't give Stefano a chance to do or say anything. I could go on, but I'll leave it there.

Marlena knew that Stefano was behind John's "death" and his brainwashing into PawnJohn and took matters into her own hands to prevent him from hurting anyone else. Hope believed that Stefano was behind Bo's kidnapping and death and confronted him. She was about to walk away from him but he kept taunting her over and over again and she snapped and shot him. I just don't see such a huge difference in intent, if not results. Marlena certainly intended that Stefano would be in that state for the rest of his life. He wasn't technically dead, but I'm not sure that was all that much better.

And Hope has expressed regret as well. Not as much as I would have liked to have seen, but it's been there. I just can't see how Stefano choosing not to press charges makes Marlena's conduct okay, but Hope's unacceptable. Personally, I don't have that big of a problem with either action in regards to Stefano. I just don't think there is such a huge difference between the two.

Now, Hope's decision to frame Andre is a whole other thing (as is Rafe's involvement in the cover-up and the framing). But as between Hope and Marlena and their taking vengeance into their own hands, I just can't see a huge difference there.
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nananana7
Mar 17 2016, 11:12 AM
I just got SID.
There are no new spoilers.
Someone sent me a little article, they have a picture of Paul in a hospital bed, John is standing in front of him with a bandage on his wrist. John is looking down like he feels guilty.

The article says Paul may regret building a relationship with John, now that it got him kidnapped and possibly brainwashed. It also says that Marlena it out of her mind with worry and that she launches her rescue plan. And Rafe might become a hero because of the discovery he makes in Yo Ling's labyrinth.
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Hugo
Mar 17 2016, 11:47 AM
nananana7
Mar 17 2016, 11:12 AM
I just got SID.
There are no new spoilers.
Someone sent me a little article, they have a picture of Paul in a hospital bed, John is standing in front of him with a bandage on his wrist. John is looking down like he feels guilty.

The article says Paul may regret building a relationship with John, now that it got him kidnapped and possibly brainwashed. It also says that Marlena it out of her mind with worry and that she launches her rescue plan. And Rafe might become a hero because of the discovery he makes in Yo Ling's labyrinth.
That's interesting. I didn't expect Paul to regret that but I could see why. He has no idea what being related to John and Marlena comes along with. Lol

I love Marlena with the rescue plan :)

I wonder if they need her as a doctor at the rescue site if they're banged up.
Edited by Lovejm, Mar 17 2016, 12:07 PM.
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Hugo
Mar 17 2016, 11:47 AM
nananana7
Mar 17 2016, 11:12 AM
I just got SID.
There are no new spoilers.
Someone sent me a little article, they have a picture of Paul in a hospital bed, John is standing in front of him with a bandage on his wrist. John is looking down like he feels guilty.

The article says Paul may regret building a relationship with John, now that it got him kidnapped and possibly brainwashed. It also says that Marlena it out of her mind with worry and that she launches her rescue plan. And Rafe might become a hero because of the discovery he makes in Yo Ling's labyrinth.


It's not that they took him because of the "relationship" he built with John :laugh: .
Edited by thepadange, Mar 17 2016, 12:10 PM.
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esp13
Mar 17 2016, 11:46 AM
Rosebud
Mar 17 2016, 11:20 AM
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Mar 17 2016, 10:36 AM

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I never said that, LOL But I'm pretty sure that unless Stefano reported it as a crime, or someone else reported the crime, there isn't going to be a case filed by the D.A. Marlena and Stefano handled it their own way. Plus, Marlena has repeatedly said she was wrong and she regretted it. She told Stefano that. Hope didn't give Stefano a chance to do or say anything. I could go on, but I'll leave it there.

Marlena knew that Stefano was behind John's "death" and his brainwashing into PawnJohn and took matters into her own hands to prevent him from hurting anyone else. Hope believed that Stefano was behind Bo's kidnapping and death and confronted him. She was about to walk away from him but he kept taunting her over and over again and she snapped and shot him. I just don't see such a huge difference in intent, if not results. Marlena certainly intended that Stefano would be in that state for the rest of his life. He wasn't technically dead, but I'm not sure that was all that much better.

And Hope has expressed regret as well. Not as much as I would have liked to have seen, but it's been there. I just can't see how Stefano choosing not to press charges makes Marlena's conduct okay, but Hope's unacceptable. Personally, I don't have that big of a problem with either action in regards to Stefano. I just don't think there is such a huge difference between the two.

Now, Hope's decision to frame Andre is a whole other thing (as is Rafe's involvement in the cover-up and the framing). But as between Hope and Marlena and their taking vengeance into their own hands, I just can't see a huge difference there.
Again, never said it was ok. :shrug: You asked if it was a crime and I answered.
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esp13
Mar 17 2016, 11:46 AM
Rosebud
Mar 17 2016, 11:20 AM
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Mar 17 2016, 10:36 AM

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I never said that, LOL But I'm pretty sure that unless Stefano reported it as a crime, or someone else reported the crime, there isn't going to be a case filed by the D.A. Marlena and Stefano handled it their own way. Plus, Marlena has repeatedly said she was wrong and she regretted it. She told Stefano that. Hope didn't give Stefano a chance to do or say anything. I could go on, but I'll leave it there.

Marlena knew that Stefano was behind John's "death" and his brainwashing into PawnJohn and took matters into her own hands to prevent him from hurting anyone else. Hope believed that Stefano was behind Bo's kidnapping and death and confronted him. She was about to walk away from him but he kept taunting her over and over again and she snapped and shot him. I just don't see such a huge difference in intent, if not results. Marlena certainly intended that Stefano would be in that state for the rest of his life. He wasn't technically dead, but I'm not sure that was all that much better.

And Hope has expressed regret as well. Not as much as I would have liked to have seen, but it's been there. I just can't see how Stefano choosing not to press charges makes Marlena's conduct okay, but Hope's unacceptable. Personally, I don't have that big of a problem with either action in regards to Stefano. I just don't think there is such a huge difference between the two.

Now, Hope's decision to frame Andre is a whole other thing (as is Rafe's involvement in the cover-up and the framing). But as between Hope and Marlena and their taking vengeance into their own hands, I just can't see a huge difference there.
If Roman/the Salem PD had found out what Marlena did and covered her crime, I'd have had problems with it. I may have hated it, but I don't expect the police to let friends family commit crimes.

Also Hope was a cop. That makes a difference to me. Not for losing it and shooting Stefano but for covering it up.

Back when Kim was arrested for killing Emma, RoJohn did all he could for her but he didn't break the law. When Steve strolled in to help Kayla and took the evidence, I loved it. I would have been upset if RoJohn had taken the evidence or hadn't made Steve put it back.

I don't mind stretching the law as far as you legally can, but I feel once you lose the integrity of the police with outright just ignoring what happened AND framing another person for the crime, the crooked cops should be kicked out of office.
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So, after the kidnapping, it's going to be all about Paul. Why am I not surprised. :rolleyes:
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