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Monday, March 14th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Mar 13 2016, 04:25 PM (13,315 Views)
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lysie
Mar 14 2016, 05:55 PM
BeeBee
Mar 14 2016, 05:53 PM
lysie
Mar 14 2016, 05:45 PM

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I was merely pointing out that the evidence in Steve's case it more clear cut since there are impartial witnesses in Ava's death but there are no impartial witnesses to what happened between Hope and Dr.Malcom.Hope and Stefano,or Chase and Ciara.
Right. But all of that is beside the point we're making. If Ava had done absolutely nothing and Steve had walked into a room full of people and shot Ava in the head in front of them, Justin should still have some conflict about the situation and how it affects his family.
I guess they could give him some lines where he blathers on about being torn between his family and his job but I don't see the need.I'd rather take it as understood instead of him having the same type of conversation he had with Hope with every single family connection who commits a crime or is accused of committing a crime in Salem.
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crookedhalo


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Mar 14 2016, 05:57 PM
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Mar 14 2016, 05:49 PM
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Mar 14 2016, 05:43 PM

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Nobody's saying he should overlook it. Just not be an ass about it.
I guess I just don't equate Justin's behavior with being an ass.
Justin referred to thing is Steve's past which was my problem. It seemed less about what he's done and more about past junk he hasn't paid for. It kind of resembled Chad and the necktie killings, it's not supposed to be personal. I don't think that Steve had enough proof, of course I don't think Hope did either.

I mean Ciara was kidnapped...Kayla was kidnapped was either one reported...No!

Steve and Kayla have been harrassed and drove by Ava..
Hope was drove by Dr. Creepty...

and Hope was all forgiven and Steve was pretty much blamed for Ava's behavior
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lysie


BeeBee
Mar 14 2016, 06:03 PM
lysie
Mar 14 2016, 05:55 PM
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Mar 14 2016, 05:53 PM

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Right. But all of that is beside the point we're making. If Ava had done absolutely nothing and Steve had walked into a room full of people and shot Ava in the head in front of them, Justin should still have some conflict about the situation and how it affects his family.
I guess they could give him some lines where he blathers on about being torn between his family and his job but I don't see the need.I'd rather take it as understood instead of him having the same type of conversation he had with Hope with every single family connection who commits a crime or is accused of committing a crime in Salem.
It's not understood because it doesn't exist onscreen. As I said earlier, it's not just the writing. It's being written and played like Justin has no connection to these people outside of being the DA.
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Mar 14 2016, 12:01 AM
tiff5555
Mar 13 2016, 11:28 PM
No CHABBY wedding????????????? Most would be watching THIS, this would be a total let down on a Monday for the viewers...
Seriously :facepalm:


I found out few hours ago...hoping I was wrong...but really???????????? People were excited for the wedding, only to have a big let down! Really Days???? :redface: :whip: :badmood: :yuk: :facepalm:
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moniker11
Mar 14 2016, 05:48 PM
This whole Justin/Steve thing seems to boil down to the fact that they don't get along and Justin isn't sympathetic to his plight. Now yes Justin should be because of Kayla and Joey but I get that his job. Beyond that his personal feelings for Steve plus their less than stellar history just don't make him inclined to be willing to work something out.

Also beyond that the DA isn't really supposed to bring compassion or sympathy to the job. He's supposed to prosecute criminals and that's it. Maybe for some he's playing it too literal but I do get where he's coming from here.
They did set this up with the Justin/Steve confrontation before Christmas. Steve was calling out Justin for how he had treated Adrienne, Justin called him a hypocrite because of the state of his own marriage, and because of that, there could be some self-loathing about the way Justin is treating Steve here. But they haven't spent enough time with it, and half of Justin's story ending up on the cutting room floor doesn't help at all. I really wish we'd seen that J/A scene last week.
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Do you think the choice not to continue the Chabby wedding was to give it more time on Tuesday? But at the same time, couldn't they have picked up the shooting story just the same on Tuesday as well? Weird.
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Mar 14 2016, 11:59 AM
nikemi
Mar 14 2016, 11:57 AM
You know I wouldn't mine them trying Rafe and Carrie again, because I was never a fan of Austin and Carrie with Patrick Muldoon in the role. and the way they wrote it was Austin/Carrie only reunited because Carrie found out she was pregnant.
Carrie was Rafe's best pairing imo, and I definitely preferred AP as Austin.
Sorry, I thought Rafe & Carrie were a horrible pairing. MarDar had some awful pairings...Rafe/Carrie, Madison/Brady, Chad/Melanie, Abby/Cameron 1.0, lol.
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Mar 14 2016, 06:31 PM
Do you think the choice not to continue the Chabby wedding was to give it more time on Tuesday? But at the same time, couldn't they have picked up the shooting story just the same on Tuesday as well? Weird.
I don't get why they didn't just focus on the kidnapping and the wedding today. JJ seemingly had nothing stopping him from being at the wedding. Maybe they didn't want to juxtaposition the wedding with the violence? If need be, they could have spread the wedding out 3 days.
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Mar 14 2016, 06:09 PM
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Mar 14 2016, 06:03 PM
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Mar 14 2016, 05:55 PM

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I guess they could give him some lines where he blathers on about being torn between his family and his job but I don't see the need.I'd rather take it as understood instead of him having the same type of conversation he had with Hope with every single family connection who commits a crime or is accused of committing a crime in Salem.
It's not understood because it doesn't exist onscreen. As I said earlier, it's not just the writing. It's being written and played like Justin has no connection to these people outside of being the DA.
I was only speaking for myself.Its understood by me.We are all entitled to an opinion.In my opinion Justin is not behaving like an ass in dealing with Steve's case so I will just agree to disagree with you and others who believe he is acting like an ass and I will say no more on the subject.Well,atleast no more today.
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Jade/Joey conversation was incredibly stupid.

Is Jade a daughter of a judge? I remember there was a casting call that mentioned a judge.
Edited by thepadange, Mar 15 2016, 05:32 AM.
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Thank you JCP.

I thought there was suppose to be casting for a vandalism story where the teens vandalize a judge's house. I thought it was suppose to have a spoiled rich kid who was Judge's son, maybe they changed it to a daughter instead.
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I'd just like to see Justin's conflict more. Regardless of his and Steve's complicated relationship, Justin knows the potential consequences here more than anyone. If Steve's convicted of murder, he could face the death penalty.

Is that easy for Justin? Steve is Adrienne's brother. Does that not matter?

Justin should do his job. I'm all for that. I hated that Hope paid no price after what she did, and she walked with ease. I don't want to see that with Steve or even Joey (but at least I'm seeing Joey's guilt).

I have no problem with Justin doing his job. I'd just like to see him have some hard moments with it...from Steve, from Kayla, from Adrienne...from himself.

It would make sense and create more conflict.
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And when did Steve and Kayla find out about the alliance? I'm glad they know, but how'd they find out?

I would have liked to see that conversation. I'd think it would be worth showing the reactions of friends when you announce your husband is a former assassin.
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Lovejm
Mar 14 2016, 05:50 PM
This is a great example of why the DA should be an unconnected person. So he can be ruthless. Having Justin in this role and so one dimensional doesn't do him or any relationships any favors.
Bring back DA Woods.....
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Restless84
Mar 14 2016, 06:41 PM
funone
Mar 14 2016, 06:31 PM
Do you think the choice not to continue the Chabby wedding was to give it more time on Tuesday? But at the same time, couldn't they have picked up the shooting story just the same on Tuesday as well? Weird.
I don't get why they didn't just focus on the kidnapping and the wedding today. JJ seemingly had nothing stopping him from being at the wedding. Maybe they didn't want to juxtaposition the wedding with the violence? If need be, they could have spread the wedding out 3 days.
Three days of wedding would have been deliriously delicious! :sweet:
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Long Live Stefano (RIP JOE)

Boring episode..
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lysie


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Mar 14 2016, 06:58 PM
lysie
Mar 14 2016, 06:09 PM
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Mar 14 2016, 06:03 PM

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It's not understood because it doesn't exist onscreen. As I said earlier, it's not just the writing. It's being written and played like Justin has no connection to these people outside of being the DA.
I was only speaking for myself.Its understood by me.We are all entitled to an opinion.In my opinion Justin is not behaving like an ass in dealing with Steve's case so I will just agree to disagree with you and others who believe he is acting like an ass and I will say no more on the subject.Well,atleast no more today.
But where are you seeing it? Because I'd sure like to.
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I'll wait to watch tomorrow's episode before I complain about the wedding not being picked up today because I thought this episode a very good one. (My hope is the wedding gets just as much focus tomorrow.)

I loved how smart the dialogue was between John and his father. Nice metaphors in relation to the phantom. The acting from both men was top notch, the setting just right and the story made sense. It was all very engaging. I too got a prime time vibe from those scenes. I hadn't much interest in John searching for his parents, but I like how now it's pulling in so many people and opening up a lot of avenues for more story.

Was this the first time Rafe referred to Eduardo as his dad in casual conversation? He pretty much has called him Eduardo, but today he said, "my dad" a few times. Rafe was definitely still processing his feelings and I liked the scene where he thanked Eduardo for saving his life and Eduardo made the small joke. Gabi coming in to see Eduardo with the baby was a sweet scene too.

I love Marlena determined to figure out where John has been taken as well as Steve wanting to join in to help. Good use of Shawn bringing in more details. I'd like to see him get more involved once they find out about Deimos' involvement.

The weak part of the episode for me was Joey and Jade. It's hard to watch such poor actors play these parts. I'd have rather had the Belle and Shawn scene that was cut.

Belle went in to see Justin with a cocky attitude, so I'm not surprised he shot her down. I thought Justin played the part just as he should considering the evidence in front of him.


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The real reason why Steve & Kayla aren't at the wedding is because, Steve is not allowed to be in the same breathing space as his sister Adrienne :headbang:
Edited by UKDays, Mar 14 2016, 08:22 PM.
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Lovejm


Wow the John/Jigsaw scenes were really well done. And I don't dislike anything about how they spun the history. They didn't rewrite anything we saw on screen. I feel like he dies with unfinished business. The Phantom Alliance could be around a long time

The Shane call made me so happy lol

I liked Marlena's initial reaction to their being a gunshot victim. She was almost relieved it wasn't John but knew that meant he was still missing.

I could have lived without Joey/Jade.

Rafe saying Eduardo as their only hope of finding John kind of underscored Marlena's reaction. I think she was really hoping he knew where John was

I feel like there was a Kayla Marlena scene cut when Marlena told her about John.

Wish we saw the Belle Shawn scene
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