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Wednesday, March 16th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Mar 15 2016, 09:31 PM (16,165 Views)
PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Ha!! Hope remembered that John is family!! If I were a new viewer I'd have no idea.
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cord08
Mar 16 2016, 01:55 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 01:49 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 01:45 PM

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I know, but there wasn't much the writers could do about it. That's my point.
Sure there is. They didn't need to kill off Will (he could have been recasted). They could have brought back Stephanie, Chelsea, and/or Max. They could have casted another one of Kiriakis boys. There are lots of options for a next generation that they aren't utilizing at this point.
Do the writers make casting decisions? I'm not sure but I thought that was someone else's responsibility. They have younger pairings on the show right now like JJ/Gabi and Shawn/Belle who they are not utilizing in favor of Kate, Deimos, Maggie, Victor, etc. They have to write for these people if they bring them on. They brought Gabi back and have done next to nothing with her.
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PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Jigsaw daddy could scare the Grim Reaper away and making post 1994 Stefano look like Dick Dastardly in comparison.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Mar 16 2016, 01:27 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 01:18 PM
PetrovaSalvatore
Mar 16 2016, 01:03 PM

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I liked Paul before they made him John's son. Now I have no problem disliking both of John's sons.
What about him being John's son made you dislike him?? He seems the same to me :shrug:
That's how I feel. He's a nice guy and he doesn't give John or Marlena a moments trouble
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PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Since when is Summer the heir to the Kiriakis fortune!!?? :facepalm: :roflol: :roflol: :roflol: That would be Philip, Brady, Shawn Douglas, Ciara, Justin and Sonny. Are these writers trying to make us laugh??
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I can't believe I'm asking for a Hope scene but I'm glad Hope was involved today because I really want to see John tell her his dad was the one who killed Bo. I think the house of cards she built will crumble with that piece of information
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Restless84
Mar 16 2016, 02:01 PM
cord08
Mar 16 2016, 01:55 PM
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Sure there is. They didn't need to kill off Will (he could have been recasted). They could have brought back Stephanie, Chelsea, and/or Max. They could have casted another one of Kiriakis boys. There are lots of options for a next generation that they aren't utilizing at this point.
Do the writers make casting decisions? I'm not sure but I thought that was someone else's responsibility. They have younger pairings on the show right now like JJ/Gabi and Shawn/Belle who they are not utilizing in favor of Kate, Deimos, Maggie, Victor, etc. They have to write for these people if they bring them on. They brought Gabi back and have done next to nothing with her.
It pretty much sounded like JG decided that he wanted JPL as Philip. :shrug: They certainly don't have all the power, but they likely have a decent amount of influence. If a writer pitches a good story where they needed any of those younger characters back, I'm sure there'd be some consideration as whether or not to cast them.

At this point, I don't really consider Shawn D/Belle a couple, and JJ/Gabi feel kind of thrown together. I'm not sure if more focus on them would help or not. At this point, I haven't figured out why Shawn D, Philip, and Belle were brought back in the first place. Same with Gabi.
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PetrovaSalvatore
Mar 16 2016, 01:37 PM
Rosebud
Mar 16 2016, 01:15 PM
Yea, if that had been Belle or Marlena brought into the warehouse I would have cared. Paul, not so much. :yawnz:
You're making me believe in the stereotype that "ship" fans don't like the children of half of the couple with another person. i.e. Jarlena fans hate Sami (I understood why), Brady, and Paul (for no good reason), Bope fans hate/hated Chelsea (for good reasons!! I understood why.) and there are other examples I could get into.

But I see no reason for hating Paul, he's great. IMO
You'd be completely wrong for believing that stereotype regarding me. I loved loved loved Brady when he was a little boy, and only disliked him after they aged him and wrote him as a psycho who tortured Marlena and now how they write him as not caring about his own parents and all the other shit he does and has done (i.e. Kristen). I have very legitimate reasons for hating Brady. It has nothing whatsoever to do with Isabella.

As for Paul, I don't dislike Paul as a character. I just have no interest in him being John's son. It's contrived and made no sense that John had a fling with someone that was not on screen when John was on screen almost daily, when he was obsessed with Kristen, again nothing to do with liking or disliking Tori. Tori is a meaningless nobody. Plus I just don't care at all about that contrived, make believe father son relationship John has with Paul. I'm not invested in it at all so watching John be upset about Paul being kidnapped is not interesting. Compare it to Maison Blanche when Stefano revealed to John on the monitor that he had Marlena tied to a chair, and I''m glued to my seat. This is like a bad version of Maison Blanche I'm watching now. Would have been good if it had been someone under that hood who I actually believed John loves with all his being. I just don't care or buy it with Paul.

I hope that clears things up for you. I'm glad you think Paul is great. I don't think he's great, but I wouldn't have a problem with him if he wasn't just made to be John's son for the sake of giving the writers a reason to keep him around.
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lysie


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Mar 16 2016, 01:55 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 01:32 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 01:29 PM

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LOL When I watched the show, that is what I saw and heard him do.
My point is that he started with sympathy/condolence for Chase's arrest when he should've started with concern about Ciara. After the "I'm gonna talk to him" attitude Rafe had when Chase had run away, you'd think that Rafe would be angry at Chase & relieved that he was somewhere where he couldn't hurt Ciara further.

My fave part, however, was Hope telling Rafe that this wasn't a good drone to discuss this.
He knows Chase was arrested, but does he know why?
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cord08
Mar 16 2016, 02:10 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 02:01 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 01:55 PM

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Do the writers make casting decisions? I'm not sure but I thought that was someone else's responsibility. They have younger pairings on the show right now like JJ/Gabi and Shawn/Belle who they are not utilizing in favor of Kate, Deimos, Maggie, Victor, etc. They have to write for these people if they bring them on. They brought Gabi back and have done next to nothing with her.
It pretty much sounded like JG decided that he wanted JPL as Philip. :shrug: They certainly don't have all the power, but they likely have a decent amount of influence. If a writer pitches a good story where they needed any of those younger characters back, I'm sure there'd be some consideration as whether or not to cast them.

At this point, I don't really consider Shawn D/Belle a couple, and JJ/Gabi feel kind of thrown together. I'm not sure if more focus on them would help or not. At this point, I haven't figured out why Shawn D, Philip, and Belle were brought back in the first place. Same with Gabi.
There are also plenty of non-related people they can bring on - Eugene & Calliope could have had a set of twins to bring back, Noel (Liz & Neil's daughter)...why they insist on bringing on a slew of Hernandi's is beyond me.

And I'm all for the diversity, but if they're bringing them back for just that sole purpose (side-eye to Gabi and Lani), then it's a waste of screen time, IMO.
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I think another reason they used Paul for this is the juxtaposition of father and son between John's rotten father he just met vs John who's a good man and the son he just met.

I'd be shocked if once they get home, John doesn't have concerns about how awful his own father was. Especially after Marlena went on and on about how John could cling to knowing his father was a good person. Like the room stops said the other day, it goes back all the good things in John's life beginning with Marlena. As a matter of fact, he actually told Paul in the fall that he was able to become a good man because he had the good fortune of meeting Marlena.
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PetrovaSalvatore
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

No1_ILoveLucyFan
Mar 16 2016, 02:18 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 02:10 PM
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Mar 16 2016, 02:01 PM

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It pretty much sounded like JG decided that he wanted JPL as Philip. :shrug: They certainly don't have all the power, but they likely have a decent amount of influence. If a writer pitches a good story where they needed any of those younger characters back, I'm sure there'd be some consideration as whether or not to cast them.

At this point, I don't really consider Shawn D/Belle a couple, and JJ/Gabi feel kind of thrown together. I'm not sure if more focus on them would help or not. At this point, I haven't figured out why Shawn D, Philip, and Belle were brought back in the first place. Same with Gabi.
There are also plenty of non-related people they can bring on - Eugene & Calliope could have had a set of twins to bring back, Noel (Liz & Neil's daughter)...why they insist on bringing on a slew of Hernandi's is beyond me.

And I'm all for the diversity, but if they're bringing them back for just that sole purpose (side-eye to Gabi and Lani), then it's a waste of screen time, IMO.
The Hernandez are the future of DAYS. It's Ken C's big plan to save Days of Our Lives. :rolleyes: :sarcasm:
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No1_ILoveLucyFan
Mar 16 2016, 02:18 PM
cord08
Mar 16 2016, 02:10 PM
Restless84
Mar 16 2016, 02:01 PM

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It pretty much sounded like JG decided that he wanted JPL as Philip. :shrug: They certainly don't have all the power, but they likely have a decent amount of influence. If a writer pitches a good story where they needed any of those younger characters back, I'm sure there'd be some consideration as whether or not to cast them.

At this point, I don't really consider Shawn D/Belle a couple, and JJ/Gabi feel kind of thrown together. I'm not sure if more focus on them would help or not. At this point, I haven't figured out why Shawn D, Philip, and Belle were brought back in the first place. Same with Gabi.
There are also plenty of non-related people they can bring on - Eugene & Calliope could have had a set of twins to bring back, Noel (Liz & Neil's daughter)...why they insist on bringing on a slew of Hernandi's is beyond me.

And I'm all for the diversity, but if they're bringing them back for just that sole purpose (side-eye to Gabi and Lani), then it's a waste of screen time, IMO.
I don't mind it...yet. However, I was much more optimistic about it in the fall. The writing they got from December-February kind of killed it. I was really enjoying Eduardo at first (and he's won me back mostly) and Rafe had gotten better. I've never been a fan of Gabi, but there was some potential when she first came back before it became obvious that they were going to turn her into the sweetest nothing ever. I'm also not caring for Dario thanks to them introducing him with Summer. But....Eduardo...I like him.
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lysie
Mar 16 2016, 02:21 PM
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There are also plenty of non-related people they can bring on - Eugene & Calliope could have had a set of twins to bring back, Noel (Liz & Neil's daughter)...why they insist on bringing on a slew of Hernandi's is beyond me.

And I'm all for the diversity, but if they're bringing them back for just that sole purpose (side-eye to Gabi and Lani), then it's a waste of screen time, IMO.
I don't mind it...yet. However, I was much more optimistic about it in the fall. The writing they got from December-February kind of killed it. I was really enjoying Eduardo at first (and he's won me back mostly) and Rafe had gotten better. I've never been a fan of Gabi, but there was some potential when she first came back before it became obvious that they were going to turn her into the sweetest nothing ever. I'm also not caring for Dario thanks to them introducing him with Summer. But....Eduardo...I like him.
I like Eduardo & to be honest, part of that is due to A Martinez being so engaging on Twitter. But they should have stopped with Rafe, Eduardo & Gabi - and given her something to do besides carry Ari from place to place & share multiple first kisses with JJ...another blah character.
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Lovejm
Mar 16 2016, 02:19 PM
I think another reason they used Paul for this is the juxtaposition of father and son between John's rotten father he just met vs John who's a good man and the son he just met.

I'd be shocked if once they get home, John doesn't have concerns about how awful his own father was. Especially after Marlena went on and on about how John could cling to knowing his father was a good person. Like the room stops said the other day, it goes back all the good things in John's life beginning with Marlena. As a matter of fact, he actually told Paul in the fall that he was able to become a good man because he had the good fortune of meeting Marlena.
I still think that while using Brady or Belle would have upped the stakes in the story (especially Brady and his heart condition) it would have split the focus even more. Adding Paul increases the stakes a bit, but Marlena can be completely focused on John and it doesn't bring people like Theresa or Philip into the story and pushing Marlena especially even more to the side.
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lysie
Mar 16 2016, 02:27 PM
Lovejm
Mar 16 2016, 02:19 PM
I think another reason they used Paul for this is the juxtaposition of father and son between John's rotten father he just met vs John who's a good man and the son he just met.

I'd be shocked if once they get home, John doesn't have concerns about how awful his own father was. Especially after Marlena went on and on about how John could cling to knowing his father was a good person. Like the room stops said the other day, it goes back all the good things in John's life beginning with Marlena. As a matter of fact, he actually told Paul in the fall that he was able to become a good man because he had the good fortune of meeting Marlena.
I still think that while using Brady or Belle would have upped the stakes in the story (especially Brady and his heart condition) it would have split the focus even more. Adding Paul increases the stakes a bit, but Marlena can be completely focused on John and it doesn't bring people like Theresa or Philip into the story and pushing Marlena especially even more to the side.
I agree. Rafe Steve and Hope were enough to be with Marlena today. I didn't need Theresa wailing over Brady. And that would have brought Victor and Maggie too. And Nicole since he has Daniels heart. That would have made this not about John or Marlena at all.

And today ended with the single focus of Marlena going to get John the way it should be.
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The only way I'll forgive this Daniel overload is if they're setting up a "Daniel was scamming everyone the whole time" scenario. I mean, I love Nicole, but it's freaking March now and he died on NYE. Jennifer was thinking about banging Daniel on the way home from Jack's funeral, for crying out loud.

Not my best, but I only had a few minutes:

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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

lysie
Mar 16 2016, 02:27 PM
Lovejm
Mar 16 2016, 02:19 PM
I think another reason they used Paul for this is the juxtaposition of father and son between John's rotten father he just met vs John who's a good man and the son he just met.

I'd be shocked if once they get home, John doesn't have concerns about how awful his own father was. Especially after Marlena went on and on about how John could cling to knowing his father was a good person. Like the room stops said the other day, it goes back all the good things in John's life beginning with Marlena. As a matter of fact, he actually told Paul in the fall that he was able to become a good man because he had the good fortune of meeting Marlena.
I still think that while using Brady or Belle would have upped the stakes in the story (especially Brady and his heart condition) it would have split the focus even more. Adding Paul increases the stakes a bit, but Marlena can be completely focused on John and it doesn't bring people like Theresa or Philip into the story and pushing Marlena especially even more to the side.
I'm blanking as to why we would need Philip in the middle of this!? Leave him in his boring little bubble with Deimos-Victor.
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Mar 16 2016, 02:30 PM
lysie
Mar 16 2016, 02:27 PM
Lovejm
Mar 16 2016, 02:19 PM
I think another reason they used Paul for this is the juxtaposition of father and son between John's rotten father he just met vs John who's a good man and the son he just met.

I'd be shocked if once they get home, John doesn't have concerns about how awful his own father was. Especially after Marlena went on and on about how John could cling to knowing his father was a good person. Like the room stops said the other day, it goes back all the good things in John's life beginning with Marlena. As a matter of fact, he actually told Paul in the fall that he was able to become a good man because he had the good fortune of meeting Marlena.
I still think that while using Brady or Belle would have upped the stakes in the story (especially Brady and his heart condition) it would have split the focus even more. Adding Paul increases the stakes a bit, but Marlena can be completely focused on John and it doesn't bring people like Theresa or Philip into the story and pushing Marlena especially even more to the side.
I agree. Rafe Steve and Hope were enough to be with Marlena today. I didn't need Theresa wailing over Brady. And that would have brought Victor and Maggie too. And Nicole since he has Daniels heart. That would have made this not about John or Marlena at all.

And today ended with the single focus of Marlena going to get John the way it should be.
It would have made it more of an umbrella story...proving that I'm only okay with umbrella stories when they DON'T include certain people, lol.
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The boy saw the comet and he felt as though his life had meaning.

Ophelia
Mar 16 2016, 02:30 PM
The only way I'll forgive this Daniel overload is if they're setting up a "Daniel was scamming everyone the whole time" scenario. I mean, I love Nicole, but it's freaking March now and he died on NYE. Jennifer was thinking about banging Daniel on the way home from Jack's funeral, for crying out loud.

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