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| Friday, March 18th Episode Discussion | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 17 2016, 07:37 PM (17,107 Views) | |
| Lovejm | Mar 18 2016, 04:46 PM Post #281 |
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I haven't seem today yet but with jigsaw clearly crazy, I could be on board with Belle having or thinking she has some kind of mental issues down the road. She's been acting out also and it would be a way to have some ramifications for the family. Now I don't want her eating cockroaches in a cave or anything but I'm just saying be a little unstable |
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| lysie | Mar 18 2016, 05:08 PM Post #282 |
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No one asked, but I'm going to give an update on where I stand with certain stories. Mostly for my own ability to process. Ciara's Rape There's a lot of this story that I like. For the most part VJ is doing a good job, and so far it has managed to stay about her and not be about Hope. I think they've done well with hitting all of the important elements, and I really liked the dialogue last week when Ciara confronted Chase. Shawn is the main thing missing, and he's missing in multiple ways. He should be angry as Ciara's brother, but also there should be a whole other layer to it since he has his own teenaged daughter. On that note, Belle should probably have some sort of involvement, too. Abe, Steve, and Kayla, too because they have children who hung out with Chase. And because I'm me, I wish John and Marlena had some involvement (minimal) once again because of Claire. No, the story shouldn't be about Claire, and that's not what I want, but she was hanging out with a rapist. Let's address that. I'd also like to see responses from the rest of the family. Doug, Julie, Roman, Jennifer....especially Jennifer because it happened in her home. |
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| JTClassicSoaps | Mar 18 2016, 05:10 PM Post #283 |
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J&M and Family Fanatic!
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So true. |
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| JTClassicSoaps | Mar 18 2016, 05:12 PM Post #284 |
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J&M and Family Fanatic!
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No Shawn is a huge hole, but in general it seems like the writers have no real plan for Shawn, Belle, and Philip. I continue to hope that when Chloe shows up things will pick up a bit. |
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| esp13 | Mar 18 2016, 05:15 PM Post #285 |
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I agree and I actually wish that the teens' involvement in grabbing Chase and tying him up had come to light because that would be a natural way for all of those people (except maybe J&M) to be brought into the story a little. They could find out what happened and why the kids did that and that would allow them to react to what happened to Ciara, but also address issues with their own kids. And, as you say, that doesn't mean the story has to become about everybody else, but those connections are there and it would be nice to see them. |
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| lysie | Mar 18 2016, 05:17 PM Post #286 |
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Steve/Kayla/Joey Overall, I don't like this story. However, I like the scenes IN the story. JLa isn't at his best, but MBE is making up for it. I'm not thrilled with Roman being once again dragged into something he's going to cover. I'm not really sure what the point of this was. Ava didn't even need to die - just get offscreen. Prison would have been fine, and they'd have still had the drama of what her presence did in the first place. I don't like that it pulls Joey away from the other teens. I do like that they're using Roman as more of an actual uncle now, and I was happy to see the Kayla/Hope scenes. Joey, like Ciara and Claire, also really needs to have more scenes with his other family members, though. He feels like S&K's son, but he doesn't feel related to anyone else, especially the other Johnsons. |
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| lysie | Mar 18 2016, 05:35 PM Post #287 |
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The Hernandezes I like this story. It still would have been better if it had happened to the characters we were watching in the fall without that boring interim in the winter, but still. I'm actually looking forward to seeing the mother. I mostly like it because I really enjoy A Martinez and Eduardo. Rafe is still on my nerves, but I even like the turn their relationship has taken in the last week. I'm not thrilled with the writing for Gabi. I might be okay with Dario when he's not in the Summer storyline. I thought his scene with Rafe today worked...the Gabi scene was fine, but again...I don't care for the writing for her. I think the juxtaposition between John and Eduardo is kind of interesting, and once John is home, I hope we get to see more of them. |
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| Kriss4 | Mar 18 2016, 05:42 PM Post #288 |
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I don't really understand why Roman's covering everything up. Once he found out what Hope did, he should have counseled her to turn herself in. Get her a decent lawyer, make sure everyone knows the many things Stefano did that drove her to the action she took, then have her do some time in an institution. Joey did a terrible thing, and while he is afraid, he wants to take responsibility. Let him. Given Ava's actions, and the fact that she had already killed his grandfather years ago, that she had attacked Kayla and held her hostage and was a clear and constant threat to Kayla, he wouldn't have gotten the maximum sentence. I don't like for him to disregard what they did. Bend the law some, sure. But don't disregard murder. We know they DID it, so there should be some kind of payment. |
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| lysie | Mar 18 2016, 05:51 PM Post #289 |
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Chad/Abby/Ben Well, the biggest problem in their story is the problem they've had pretty much all along. They're so secluded. Their wedding is the obvious example. KM is playing the breakdown well. I'm not thrilled with the timing of any of their story, though. They've only been in a relationship since December (and thanks the brainwashing it got dragged to January) and they're already married. That's relatively typical for Days, but it's still irritating. They should have put them in a relationship, and then let them be part of other stories. Abby is apparently friends with Gabi, but they could also bond her some with Ciara, and of course her relationships with Hope and Kayla have disappeared. And that's not to even mention the other family she rarely sees. Meanwhile, Chad has no good connections. They were building something decent with him and Rafe and him and Marlena before, but that's been dropped. Have him go into business with Philip or something...or be business rivals. Something. |
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| lysie | Mar 18 2016, 05:54 PM Post #290 |
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Summer/Brady/Theresa/Nicole/Maggie Well. This story absolutely sucks. There's not a single redeeming feature about it. It doesn't make sense, it doesn't include good performance (yet)...it's just not good. All of these characters are on my nerves anyway, but they're also all missing opportunities to be involved in things that are relevant to them. None of them seem to have any relationships outside of the ones they have with each other. And I really don't know whether to complain about that or not. They're all so awful right now, that I don't want to see them with anyone else. |
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| bygnedys | Mar 18 2016, 05:56 PM Post #291 |
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Thank you JCP.
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No, Ava had to die, I couldn't take any more of her if Dena was just going to write her the same way after she was suppose to have moved on from S/K. This story was so not needed and they should have given S/K something else. |
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| lysie | Mar 18 2016, 05:58 PM Post #292 |
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Deimos/Kate/Victor/Philip I wasn't sure how else to classify this "story." I like Deimos...until Kate shows up. And then he loses me. The story with Philip is blah. I guess it kind of makes Victor a more compelling villain again, but if this doesn't lead to Victor losing everything, I'll be really disappointed..and I can't imagine it does. I'm happy we have someone pointing out that Victor isn't the beloved old patriarch people pretend he is. I like that they've tied Deimos to Yo Ling and Stefano. I like that he's going after Maggie, and I wish him all the luck in the world with that. But again, what's missing is the rest of the Kiriakis family. He has pictures of all of them, but no one else is involved and nothing is really happening. |
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| esp13 | Mar 18 2016, 06:00 PM Post #293 |
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I don't disagree in some ways. I mean, I think - as a general rule - there should be consequences for things. But, in regards to Joey, it's a more difficult question. He did something awful, no question. But there is also no question that Ava was psycho and - while it could have been built up better - that he really did kind of snap. And, here's the thing - maybe he doesn't get a "maximum" sentence but prison time is likely to ruin his life (shut up, Gabi, you don't count). In the real world, if he spent five years in prison after a murder conviction, he'd be lucky to ever get any kind of decent job again. A background check would pretty much automatically exclude him and probably exclude him from a lot of colleges and professions. So, I can actually buy that the people that love the kid don't want to see his life ruined by Ava. And while maybe it shouldn't matter who his victim was, it kind of does - at least to me. |
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| lysie | Mar 18 2016, 06:01 PM Post #294 |
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Philip/Belle/Shawn I'm not even sure what this story is. I feel like their bubble is the worst. Philip has barely seen Kate and hasn't seen Lucas IIRC. He has no friends, and appears to be in town solely for Deimos and Belle. That's not good. He has something with Belle this week, and I really hope they touch on the fact that he was her father for a year and then spent a significant amount of time trying to still be her father. The writing for Belle is up and down, and at least she gets to interact with some other people occasionally, but she also just has no family presence...which is ridiculous because she lives WITH her parents and daughter, and her brother and nephew live in the same building. And Shawn. I'm not even sure why he's there. BB is so much better in the role now, but he's not doing anything. |
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| cord08 | Mar 18 2016, 06:02 PM Post #295 |
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When I used to watch ATWT, I remember some soap blogs and boards used to call the story Marie Wilson was involved in the "vortex of suck." Not that B/T didn't already suck without Summer, but I kind of feel as though MW brought the "vortex of suck" she had at ATWT over to Days. The sad thing is that MW isn't totally terrible; she just gets stuck in terrible stories. |
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| lysie | Mar 18 2016, 06:04 PM Post #296 |
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Eric/Jennifer It's hard to classify this as a story. I enjoy their scenes. I like where they took this. But it's barely on. And neither character gets to be involved in anything else (Jennifer got some with the wedding, but not much). I really want Marlena to find him drinking. I mostly just want him to get to interact with his family. Also, I was totally on board with the story, but I don't get why they bothered if they weren't going to have anyone be upset with him for what happened. Maggie and Victor don't care. He's actually going to go to prison for something no one even cares about. Sure, they're upset about Daniel, but Nicole is the only one even sort of blaming him. Irritating. |
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| lysie | Mar 18 2016, 06:08 PM Post #297 |
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John's Past I'm fine with this story. No, we didn't need to go down this road again, but since they decided to take us down it anyway, I'm glad it at least makes sense, fits the history we already know, and is being done well. My continued issue, though, is that they keep giving the stories to John. He has been the center of pretty much every story they've had for the last decade...if not longer. Enough. I'm hoping Marlena's place in this story increases this coming week, but ultimately, if they insist on giving "them" a story, I'd rather see her than him. And they clearly would prefer that too, since they keep her around more than they do him, but for whatever reason that just never translates into anything. But don't be fooled. I don't need stories about them. I'd like to see them with their family. I'm fine with them supporting. I'd just like to see her get supported more often than him. Plus, John now has some friends (Eduardo, Steve), can Marlena have some? |
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| Restless84 | Mar 18 2016, 06:09 PM Post #298 |
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:teehee: |
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| lysie | Mar 18 2016, 06:11 PM Post #299 |
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Or I meant Claire... |
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| AngelaP | Mar 18 2016, 06:15 PM Post #300 |
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Roman's cover ups Hope. The murder in and of itself? That was IMO simple to get out of especially pertaining to soap standards. There was 6 solid weeks where they showed Hope emotionally detached and increasingly violent - cheese was very evidently not on the cracker. The cover-up and then the framing of Andre? That's Roman's rock and hard place. I get why he covered from that perspective (attached to his own history with Stefano). He knows Andre is very dangerous and now Hope's pissed Andre off even more, so I get Roman feeling it would be better to leave things as is. What I really don't get here is how Roman lets Hope back on the force without questioning her mental health or insisting she have mandatory psych evaluations. He might have done that, but that IMPORTANT scene never aired. I get why Roman's likely going to cover in Joey's case. Joey is his nephew. Ava killed Roman's father. On top of that, Joey doesn't have great circumstantial outs around his murder. He'd ruin Joey's life for somebody he probably feels deep down had it coming. At this point, he'd also get Steve & Kayla in trouble. My problem here is something is off with Joey if he can go from moody teen to teen killer who is ready and willing to kill the obnoxious villain on a hospital bed who is looking at him with puppy dog eyes IN SECONDS FLAT. I'm not going to understand overlooking that and moving on story wise. Maybe he's bi-polar? I don't like that they wrote either character to commit murder (it was completely UNNECESSARY in both cases on top of everything else) but I'm not stressed by them getting away with it IF that's the way it stays. Stefano, Andre and Ava were/are vile creatures who went after many of these people over and over and over and over and over again with little to no comeuppance. Because they're (Joey, Hope) "good" characters, I'd like to see them take their punishment (in a minimal way) but I don't want to see either in his prison. I'd give Hope a few weeks in an institution, make sure Joey's still under 18 and give him a few weeks in a juvenile hall. Edited by AngelaP, Mar 18 2016, 06:18 PM.
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