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Friday, March 18th Episode Discussion
Topic Started: Mar 17 2016, 07:37 PM (17,103 Views)
Josephinejms


andromeda
Mar 18 2016, 09:55 PM
Josephinejms
Mar 18 2016, 09:50 PM
lysie
Mar 18 2016, 07:21 PM
Otherwise, go away.
Please don't go away Andromeda! 😱
I won't be :)
Good!

Btw, I LOVE your gif!!!! 😍😍
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Thank you JCP.

How about a split screen with the women on one side and the men on the other? The women could be at Belle's place and the men some where else. The gals could say something like "Why are men so dense?" The men could say something like "Why can't women understand us?"
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Kriss4


Well, there's that, too.

Shawn and Ciara should be interacting. They're brother and sister. She just got raped. He doesn't even KNOW.

Brady had a heart transplant, and Marlena had no scenes with him. That's dumb. He's always with Maggie. He has 20 scenes with her compared to one with Marlena and/or John.

Steve's had ONE scene with Adrienne. They moved Caroline into the Kiriakis place, and she never has scenes with Kayla or Eric or Ciara or Joey.

So I see potential sometimes, but then nothing comes of it. I was pretty happy with the way things were going a few short months ago, but now I just wait and see...with a lot more waiting than seeing.

I don't dislike all of it. Some things I like. But I also see potential wasted.
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Josephinejms
Mar 18 2016, 10:04 PM
andromeda
Mar 18 2016, 09:55 PM
Josephinejms
Mar 18 2016, 09:50 PM

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I won't be :)
Good!

Btw, I LOVE your gif!!!! 😍😍
Why, thank you :wub2: I love it too. Someone special made it :) Your banner is pretty :rockon: too.
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Kriss4
Mar 18 2016, 09:48 PM
Thing is, though...we hear these spoilers, right? So we get excited because there's potential in them.

Marlena got attacked, remember? But we saw little reaction from her after that. Not from her...not from John. Unrealized potential.

Then, something happens, like Hope kills Stefano. But do John and Marlena get there and find out what she's done and try to shield her, because they KNOW Stefano can drive you over the edge? No. It's all about Rafe. It should've been John, Marlena, and Hope all the way down the line.

Or other things happen...like Ciara gets raped or Joey kills Ava. Do Hope or Kayla insist that Ciara or Joey get psychiatric help to deal with what happened, bringing Marlena into those stories more fully? Nope. And couldn't John find out Joey killed Ava, and try to help Steve clear him...these are possibilities we see that don't actually happen and they would allow John and Marlena to work, separately and together, and bring them into different stories as well as their own, which also has potential we aren't sure is going to be realized.

All this should be happening more often. It's more umbrella-like.
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Lovejm


Kriss4
Mar 18 2016, 10:05 PM
Well, there's that, too.

Shawn and Ciara should be interacting. They're brother and sister. She just got raped. He doesn't even KNOW.

Brady had a heart transplant, and Marlena had no scenes with him. That's dumb. He's always with Maggie. He has 20 scenes with her compared to one with Marlena and/or John.

Steve's had ONE scene with Adrienne. They moved Caroline into the Kiriakis place, and she never has scenes with Kayla or Eric or Ciara or Joey.

So I see potential sometimes, but then nothing comes of it. I was pretty happy with the way things were going a few short months ago, but now I just wait and see...with a lot more waiting than seeing.

I don't dislike all of it. Some things I like. But I also see potential wasted.
Oh the Kiriakas' conversion for Caroline. That's on my list too. She hasn't even seen Eric since Bo's funeral I think. And he's going to jail for killing a man.

I'm pretty sure John nor Marlena has seen Brady since the transplant.

Also still don't understand why Hope, S&K missed the wedding
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granolagirl
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#SorryNotSorry

Kriss4
Mar 18 2016, 09:48 PM
Thing is, though...we hear these spoilers, right? So we get excited because there's potential in them.

Marlena got attacked, remember? But we saw little reaction from her after that. Not from her...not from John. Unrealized potential.

Then, something happens, like Hope kills Stefano. But do John and Marlena get there and find out what she's done and try to shield her, because they KNOW Stefano can drive you over the edge? No. It's all about Rafe. It should've been John, Marlena, and Hope all the way down the line.

Or other things happen...like Ciara gets raped or Joey kills Ava. Do Hope or Kayla insist that Ciara or Joey get psychiatric help to deal with what happened, bringing Marlena into those stories more fully? Nope. And couldn't John find out Joey killed Ava, and try to help Steve clear him...these are possibilities we see that don't actually happen and they would allow John and Marlena to work, separately and together, and bring them into different stories as well as their own, which also has potential we aren't sure is going to be realized.

All this should be happening more often. It's more umbrella-like.
For me what makes an umbrella story is a little more... it's that the stories have ramifications for them, too. So Marlena giving the teens therapy doesn't make it an umbrella story... Something like, Marlena put into a position to keep important information from Hope about Ciara, that ends up impacting Marlena.


I have mixed feelings about BlackPatch. I just can't get excited about it for its own sake, and I'm not loving the show's version of action right now. But it would be better for the guys to have something like a real career, than not. I really would like to see these kinds of things passed on to the younger heroes at some point, for a lot of reasons.
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Lovejm


granolagirl
Mar 18 2016, 10:08 PM
Kriss4
Mar 18 2016, 09:48 PM
Thing is, though...we hear these spoilers, right? So we get excited because there's potential in them.

Marlena got attacked, remember? But we saw little reaction from her after that. Not from her...not from John. Unrealized potential.

Then, something happens, like Hope kills Stefano. But do John and Marlena get there and find out what she's done and try to shield her, because they KNOW Stefano can drive you over the edge? No. It's all about Rafe. It should've been John, Marlena, and Hope all the way down the line.

Or other things happen...like Ciara gets raped or Joey kills Ava. Do Hope or Kayla insist that Ciara or Joey get psychiatric help to deal with what happened, bringing Marlena into those stories more fully? Nope. And couldn't John find out Joey killed Ava, and try to help Steve clear him...these are possibilities we see that don't actually happen and they would allow John and Marlena to work, separately and together, and bring them into different stories as well as their own, which also has potential we aren't sure is going to be realized.

All this should be happening more often. It's more umbrella-like.
For me what makes an umbrella story is a little more... it's that the stories have ramifications for them, too. So Marlena giving the teens therapy doesn't make it an umbrella story... Something like, Marlena put into a position to keep important information from Hope about Ciara, that ends up impacting Marlena.


I have mixed feelings about BlackPatch. I just can't get excited about it for its own sake, and I'm not loving the show's version of action right now. But it would be better for the guys to have something like a real career, than not. I really would like to see these kinds of things passed on to the younger heroes at some point, for a lot of reasons.
Reading what you said about Marlena having information about Ciara and keeping it from Hope reminded me of the nine hundred times Marlena said she couldn't break doctor patient confidentially during the Gina story in late 99 through the millennium wedding. LOL
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Kriss4


I know. I like the idea of Black Patch, but not just because it'll exist. More because of potential story it can provide for John, Marlena, Kayla, Steve, and maybe Hope, who's kicked off the force.
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Lovejm


I do not in any way want Rafe in BlackPatch. They don't need him. That could ruin the whole thing lol
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lysie


I've really liked the incredibly brief scenes we've gotten with Steve/Marlena. When BlackPatch happens, I hope it leads to more of that.
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Kriss4


I just think there are all kinds of little problems. Shawn/Ciara never talking. Marlena and Brady almost nonexistent in favor of Maggie. Steve/Adrienne. Caroline not interacting with her own family.

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lysie


Kriss4
Mar 18 2016, 10:21 PM
I just think there are all kinds of little problems. Shawn/Ciara never talking. Marlena and Brady almost nonexistent in favor of Maggie. Steve/Adrienne. Caroline not interacting with her own family.

This regime is really bad with family. That's the one thing I'm hopeful for in the fall. The problem for me before with Dena is that the families she had onscreen weren't families I was interested with. But she actually isn't too bad about family stuff. Her stories are terrible, but she gets in family moments. I also think Ryan Quan might be good at that considering how he wrote Marlena in the coming out story.
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Mar 18 2016, 10:19 PM
I've really liked the incredibly brief scenes we've gotten with Steve/Marlena. When BlackPatch happens, I hope it leads to more of that.
On the opposite side of that, I'd love to see John and Kayla.

Steve was a nice contrast to Rafe kind of dismissing Marlena too. And he was really sincere about bringing John back to her.

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lysie


Lovejm
Mar 18 2016, 10:24 PM
lysie
Mar 18 2016, 10:19 PM
I've really liked the incredibly brief scenes we've gotten with Steve/Marlena. When BlackPatch happens, I hope it leads to more of that.
On the opposite side of that, I'd love to see John and Kayla.
Agreed. I thought we were going to have it recently, but then no.
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Kriss4


Lovejm
Mar 18 2016, 10:08 PM
Kriss4
Mar 18 2016, 10:05 PM
Well, there's that, too.

Shawn and Ciara should be interacting. They're brother and sister. She just got raped. He doesn't even KNOW.

Brady had a heart transplant, and Marlena had no scenes with him. That's dumb. He's always with Maggie. He has 20 scenes with her compared to one with Marlena and/or John.

Steve's had ONE scene with Adrienne. They moved Caroline into the Kiriakis place, and she never has scenes with Kayla or Eric or Ciara or Joey.

So I see potential sometimes, but then nothing comes of it. I was pretty happy with the way things were going a few short months ago, but now I just wait and see...with a lot more waiting than seeing.

I don't dislike all of it. Some things I like. But I also see potential wasted.
Oh the Kiriakas' conversion for Caroline. That's on my list too. She hasn't even seen Eric since Bo's funeral I think. And he's going to jail for killing a man.

I'm pretty sure John nor Marlena has seen Brady since the transplant.

Also still don't understand why Hope, S&K missed the wedding
Or how about Caroline's visions?

Bo. Victor. That's it.

Does she see her grandson Eric in trouble? Nope.

Did she see her daughter Kayla get attacked and be held hostage without food or water? Uh uh.

Did she see her granddaughter Ciara get raped or her grandson Joey kill Ava?
Nope.

So, that's not too satisfying at all.
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Speaking about the lack of family interactions, what's up with Hope and Jennifer? I feel like Jennifer has been there for Hope (coming over as soon as she heard about Aiden, making them food, and now giving them a place to live), but Hope has been completely oblivious to Jennifer's pill problem nor did she offer to help her out with the wedding. Did she have a reaction to Jennifer being in that accident? I don't remember. The one-sidedness bothers me.
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Restless84
Mar 18 2016, 10:38 PM
Speaking about the lack of family interactions, what's up with Hope and Jennifer? I feel like Jennifer has been there for Hope (coming over as soon as she heard about Aiden, making them food, and now giving them a place to live), but Hope has been completely oblivious to Jennifer's pill problem nor did she offer to help her out with the wedding. Did she have a reaction to Jennifer being in that accident? I don't remember. The one-sidedness bothers me.
Hope had a scene with Jennifer talking about Daniel lol
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Restless84
Mar 18 2016, 10:38 PM
Speaking about the lack of family interactions, what's up with Hope and Jennifer? I feel like Jennifer has been there for Hope (coming over as soon as she heard about Aiden, making them food, and now giving them a place to live), but Hope has been completely oblivious to Jennifer's pill problem nor did she offer to help her out with the wedding. Did she have a reaction to Jennifer being in that accident? I don't remember. The one-sidedness bothers me.
The most ridiculous part to me -- as you mention -- is that Hope is staying with Jen. How can she not notice something is off?!
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Kriss4


Lovejm
Mar 18 2016, 10:24 PM
lysie
Mar 18 2016, 10:19 PM
I've really liked the incredibly brief scenes we've gotten with Steve/Marlena. When BlackPatch happens, I hope it leads to more of that.
On the opposite side of that, I'd love to see John and Kayla.

Steve was a nice contrast to Rafe kind of dismissing Marlena too. And he was really sincere about bringing John back to her.

I would love some John and Kayla scenes too.

They're so rare.

But I never forget that for years they thought they were brother and sister.
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